Pascal consumer = Maxwell on speed confirmed

[roylapoutre]

2 minutes ago, Dresta said:

The Titan XP is bad? lol look at there GTX Titan Z,its been like year and ITS STILL $3000,fucking Nvidia playing mind games 

Well, Titan XP will be roughly 30% faster than the 1080 for a price increase of 70%. I consider this as bad  

[Agosto]

2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

its about a 980 in preformance, and for $200, not a fail IMO

Most of the custom 970s cost less than reference RX 480s in Europe.

[Dresta]

8 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Which costs more money cause "More cache? MOAR CASH!"

Intel started going Nvidia's way,i mean releasing a $1700 CPU with just 2 cores more and some features which many people are not even gonna use is just stupid

 

2 minutes ago, PerfectTemplar said:

Evidently, it wasn't meant to compete with the 1060 either.

 

 

970* performance.

Yea after about 1 year of drivers,custom coolers it will be the 980 level or even better maybe even a 980 Ti if gaben helps us

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, Agost said:

Most of the custom 970s cost less than reference RX 480s in Europe.

yee they just dropped hard here in Sweden, like $60 or more on some cards

[Agosto]

2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

yee they just dropped hard here in Sweden, like $60 or more on some cards

The point is that the RX 480 is a €300+ plus card with low stocks and low overclocking headroom.

[Dresta]

4 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

no?

 

its the latest operating card from Winvidia.

 

3 minutes ago, roylapoutre said:

Well, Titan XP will be roughly 30% faster than the 1080 for a price increase of 70%. I consider this as bad  

You guys did not understand me,i said in terms of stupidity,Nvidia has done the Titan Z which was much crazier shit than the Titan XP

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, Agost said:

The point is that's a €300+ plus card with low stocks and low overclocking headroom.

yah that price needs to go down in europe because thats not a nice deal... 

[roylapoutre]

Just now, Dresta said:

 

You guys did not understand me,i said in terms of stupidity,Nvidia has done the Titan Z which was much crazier shit than the Titan XP

Yes I understood don't worry ! Titan Z is a joke, but I wanted to emphasize the fact that the Titan XP is a scam anyway  

[VerticalDiscussions]

Gwarsh, i supose Maxwell was already "efficient" on its own. Its all about power savings today anyways and AMD as always tought making cards that wouldnt power an African Village for a month would be key. But hey, the 1080 is quite ahead of the 980 Ti and i think nowan will make the 1080 a 980 Ti for daily use...

[Dresta]

3 minutes ago, roylapoutre said:

Yes I understood don't worry ! Titan Z is a joke, but I wanted to emphasize the fact that the Titan XP is a scam anyway  

Well its not like a scam,more like a overpriced piece of feces

[Sintezza]

Pascal is not Maxwell on steroids.

Pascal is a new architecture on 16NM.

If something performs similar, doesnt mean that its also the same architecture.

[AlTech]

43 minutes ago, Agost said:

YouTube channel AdoredTV has conducted some tests about Pascal per-core performance, proving his former statement that consumer Pascal is basically Maxwell on steroids.

From this video we can see that the 980Ti has a slight advantage over the 1080 when running at the same clockspeed (due to the higher core count), while the two cards perform equally if their TFLOPS values are adjusted to the same level (achieved by severel downclocking the 1080 and slightly underclocking the 980Ti)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDaekpMBYUA

There are obviously some advantages on the software side for Pascal, but this tests were all about performance per core, which is practically the same across the two architectures. That's also why AMD could have easily reached NVIDIA performance and efficiency wise this time (but it sadly failed).

 

 

p.s.: I hope this thread is ok for the guidelines, it's my first news topic

You're missing a quote from your news source.

[zMeul]

confirmed, eh .... what a load of shit

 

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GTX 980Ti transistor count - 8B

GTX 1080 tranzistor count - 7.2B

just a node shrink right?

 

you have a new GPU with couple of million transistors less, even has less CUDA cores, texture units and ROPs and still manages to outperform the old architecture

[AlTech]

21 minutes ago, Dresta said:

The Titan XP is bad? lol look at there GTX Titan Z,its been like year and ITS STILL $3000,fucking Nvidia playing mind games 

The only reason why it's so expensive is because it is unbelievably fast at Double Precision. Single precision on the Titan Z kinda sucks but DP is awesome.

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, Sintezza said:

Pascal is not Maxwell on steroids.

Pascal is a new architecture on 16NM.

If something performs similar, doesnt mean that its also the same architecture.

The main thing with Pascal is the significantly lower power consumption. Yeah they perform the same clock for clock, but when Pascal consumes a shitload less power for the same performance...I don't see why people have a problem.

[Dresta]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

The only reason why it's so expensive is because it is unbelievably fast at Double Precision. Single precision on the Titan Z kinda sucks but DP is awesome.

And what does that mean for gamers? oh yea more cost!!!

[raphidy]

Ah yes, AdoredTV. Everything he says is the truth now. I'm still waiting for the efficiency to come from AMD. I was pretty disappointed with polaris though.

[Agosto]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The only reason why it's so expensive is because it is unbelievably fast at Double Precision. Single precision on the Titan Z kinda sucks but DP is awesome.

It's a video... and there's nothing in the description. Shall I write down what he says?

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Dresta said:

And what does that mean for gamers? oh yea more cost!!!

Good thing it was targeted at prosumers (I.e. People who benefit from DP but also want to play games without needing a second card).

[Sintezza]

8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The only reason why it's so expensive is because it is unbelievably fast at Double Precision. Single precision on the Titan Z kinda sucks but DP is awesome.

Exactly, The Titan Z was the last dual Titan card from  the kepler series if i´m correct.

These were the last Titan cards that had great Double Precision figures.

And therefor these cards were also realy good at certain productivity and professional workloads.

just like their Quadro´s or Tesla´s which are way more expensive.

Nvidia saw that manny professional users boaght those Titan´s instead.

And decided that with Maxwell they should gimp the Titan X on DP aswell.

[patrickjp93]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The only reason why it's so expensive is because it is unbelievably fast at Double Precision. Single precision on the Titan Z kinda sucks but DP is awesome.

Titan XP has no double precision. It's GP 102, not GP 100.

[Dresta]

Just now, patrickjp93 said:

Titan XP has no double precision. It's GP 102, not GP 100.

We are talking about the Titan Z not the Titan XP

[patrickjp93]

Just now, Dresta said:

We are talking about the Titan Z not the Titan XP

Whoops. And even so, the price of the Titan Z dropped to $1400 about a year ago.

[Master Disaster]

Jesus, I think I'm leaving this fanboi ego stroking contest as quickly as possible. 

 

Hasn't GPUWARZ been done enough now? Does it require Jen-Hsun and Lisa to get in a ring and fight it out to the death before you guys quit with the red v green BS? 

[Agosto]

1 minute ago, Master Disaster said:

Jesus, I think I'm leaving this fanboi ego stroking contest as quickly as possible. 

 

Hasn't GPUWARZ been done enough now? Does it require Jen-Hsun and Lisa to get in a ring and fight it out to the death before you guys quit with the red v green BS? 

Don't count me in. It was not meant to be a gpu war topic... that's just a confirmation of what actually Pascal is.