Nvidia is no longer interested in making mobile SoCs

[manikyath]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

how?

its very glitchy on linux, because nvidia absolutely refuses to work with linux on that part.

 

no nvidia mobile chips means no nvidia optimus

[Misanthrope]

They probably were smart enough to realize what I've been saying ad nauseum: mobile tech is basically fucking pointless since there's next to no software at all to really take advantage of it. 

 

Mobile devices are a mass market. As such, the number of people who would play graphically intensive, complex games, are relatively tiny since well, we already have much better devices anyway. 

 

So for the most part you have your basic stupid fucking idiot with a 3 minute attention spawn they can use to try 1 level of Candy Crush or flap various birds while distracting themselves in the shitter or while the light changes.

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

its very glitchy on linux, because nvidia absolutely refuses to work with linux on that part.

 

no nvidia mobile chips means no nvidia optimus

I don't know about that... I assume they'll still have switchable graphics some how, since a desktop 1080 would probably kill your battery pretty fast

[manikyath]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

I don't know about that... I assume they'll still have switchable graphics some how, since a desktop 1080 would probably kill your battery pretty fast

i should actually test how much power usage differs on my desktop between a gpu at idle, and no gpu at all.

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

i should actually test how much power usage differs on my desktop between a gpu at idle, and no gpu at all.

With my sandy bridge i7 and a 6770M, it's a good 5 - 10 W, so actually as much as a doubling of the idle drain on the machine.  Plus there's the heat, and the noise from the increased fan noise...

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

With my sandy bridge i7 and a 6770M, it's a good 5 - 10 W, so actually as much as a doubling of the idle drain on the machine.  Plus there's the heat, and the noise from the increased fan noise...

thats a 6770m tho, which isnt quite a modern gpu. i mean, if someone told you back when you got that laptopt hat one day we'd have full featured desktop GPUs in a laptop you'd laugh at their face

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

thats a 6770m tho, which isnt quite a modern gpu. i mean, if someone told you back when you got that laptopt hat one day we'd have full featured desktop GPUs in a laptop you'd laugh at their face

Believe me, I'd very very much like to be rid of switchable graphics, but so long as it's actually netting people some extra runtime, I'll be (grudgingly) all for it!  And I assume it is or nvidia and AMD would have done away with it by now...

[manikyath]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Believe me, I'd very very much like to be rid of switchable graphics, but so long as it's actually netting people some extra runtime, I'll be (grudgingly) all for it!  And I assume it is or nvidia and AMD would have done away with it by now...

well, maybe nvidia has decided this is the time. also, if you get rid of switchable graphics, you can also forget about needing an igpu, so technically if the dedicated chip would use as little as integrated at idle you'd be at a zero difference.

 

also, it gets rid of the "step" of enabling your dedicated gpu, which is quite a big jump in a lot of modern laptops.

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3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

well, maybe nvidia has decided this is the time. also, if you get rid of switchable graphics, you can also forget about needing an igpu, so technically if the dedicated chip would use as little as integrated at idle you'd be at a zero difference.

 

also, it gets rid of the "step" of enabling your dedicated gpu, which is quite a big jump in a lot of modern laptops.

Yes, that all sounds fantastic  I'd love that to happen but I guess it's a case of "I'll believe it when I see it"

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Yes, that all sounds fantastic  I'd love that to happen but I guess it's a case of "I'll believe it when I see it"

it doesnt happen until it does.

[Kimmers]

I've always preferred Apple's and Samsung's SoC's anyway.

[LAwLz]

On one hand, it's sad that another SoC maker is exiting the market. On the other hand, Nvidia's SoCs were terrible for phones so nothing of value was lost.

 

So does this mean they will stop making SoCs for tablets and other devices too?

[shdowhunt60]

That's my thing. Does that mean that they're no longer making SOC's for Shield devices? That really sucks, the entire Shield line is already starting to show its age.

[manikyath]

5 minutes ago, shdowhunt60 said:

That's my thing. Does that mean that they're no longer making SOC's for Shield devices? That really sucks, the entire Shield line is already starting to show its age.

well, i heard the chips in the shields arent all too amazing, maybe they'll outsource the shield guts, or (lol why do i even think this) make it an open system.

[shdowhunt60]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

well, i heard the chips in the shields arent all too amazing, maybe they'll outsource the shield guts, or (lol why do i even think this) make it an open system.

Their LTE module is garbage, but otherwise they're some of the most powerful SOC's on the market. The thing is, is that's a lead they're steadily losing, especially in terms of CPU power.

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

well, i heard the chips in the shields arent all too amazing, maybe they'll outsource the shield guts, or (lol why do i even think this) make it an open system.

I remember when the shield tablet came out it was absolutely blowing everything else away with performance of ~5x better than the next best device in some cases.  To be honest though I haven't kept up with where the X1 falls in a current lineup of SoCs.

[shdowhunt60]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I remember when the shield tablet came out it was absolutely blowing everything else away with performance of ~5x better than the next best device in some cases.  To be honest though I haven't kept up with where the X1 falls in a current lineup of SoCs.

The X1 isn't an apples to apples comparison though. The version that's in the TV runs at about 20 watts. 

[manikyath]

7 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I remember when the shield tablet came out it was absolutely blowing everything else away with performance of ~5x better than the next best device in some cases.  To be honest though I haven't kept up with where the X1 falls in a current lineup of SoCs.

 

8 minutes ago, shdowhunt60 said:

Their LTE module is garbage, but otherwise they're some of the most powerful SOC's on the market. The thing is, is that's a lead they're steadily losing, especially in terms of CPU power.

i dont know who told about it, but while performance wasnt the issue the backend was a compatibility DISASTER.

[manikyath]

8 minutes ago, shdowhunt60 said:

runs at about 20 watts. 

20 watts from the wall or at the chip itself? (BIG difference)

[shdowhunt60]

1 minute ago, manikyath said:

20 watts from the wall or at the chip itself? (BIG difference)

That's what Anandtech measured from the wall if I remember right.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, shdowhunt60 said:

That's what Anandtech measured from the wall if I remember right.

well, chances are apple cheaped out and went for the 40% efficient power supply.

(which is actually a less rare choice than you'd expect.)

[trag1c]

This is most disappointing. I build robots and the Tegra chips were fantastic because they enabled lightning fast onboard vision processing.

[LukeTim]

I'm surprised it took them this long.

Tegra was a piece of shit. Nobody wanted to use it.

[79wjd]

16 hours ago, manikyath said:

well, chances are apple cheaped out and went for the 40% efficient power supply.

(which is actually a less rare choice than you'd expect.)

Nvidia*