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Will 4790k bottleneck gtx1080?

Macko939

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I saved money and I decided to get a 1080 this summer. I'm not sure if my processor is good enough for it though

 

Would I need to get a new cpu as well or will it be OK?

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No. Why do u own a processor u know nothing about ? :(

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4 minutes ago, Macko939 said:

Hi

 

I saved money and I decided to get a 1080 this summer. I'm not sure if my processor is good enough for it though

 

Would I need to get a new cpu as well or will it be OK?

As long as it's overclocked you'll be fine. You'd get a couple more fps from a new CPU.

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4 minutes ago, Thony said:

No. Why do u own a processor u know nothing about ? :(

Because I needed a cpu to run games. Duh 

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Okay thank you very much for your replies!!

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23 minutes ago, Macko939 said:

Because I needed a cpu to run games. Duh 

U dont need i7 for games. Its more universal cpu great for multitasking.

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Unless you want to get like 300fps at 1080 or something crazy, I don't think the 4790k will be bottlenecking the 1080 anytime soon.

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11 minutes ago, Thony said:

U dont need i7 for games. Its more universal cpu great for multitasking.

 

You do need it for games unless you like fps drops and frametime spikes in CPU heavy games like GTA V, Fallout 4, Crysis 3.

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For DX12 games you are fine.

Games that have bad optimisation and are more CPU hungry ... well at those you will bottleneck with most high end GPUs.

 

But in general, your i7 4790k is fine, even at stock speeds.

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2 hours ago, Monarch said:

 

You do need it for games unless you like fps drops and frametime spikes in CPU heavy games like GTA V, Fallout 4, Crysis 3.

so u wanna tell me your i5 doesnt keep up with your 970?

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3 hours ago, Macko939 said:

Hi

 

I saved money and I decided to get a 1080 this summer. I'm not sure if my processor is good enough for it though

 

Would I need to get a new cpu as well or will it be OK?

You've got the second-best mainstream ("mainstream" meaning non-X99) CPU out there. You're fine.

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3 hours ago, Thony said:

U dont need i7 for games. Its more universal cpu great for multitasking.

Well uhhh I just bought it because I got it recommended and I had a great deal for it in my local store. 

 

3 hours ago, Badly Browned said:

Unless you want to get like 300fps at 1080 or something crazy, I don't think the 4790k will be bottlenecking the 1080 anytime soon.

Well my goal is to get stable minimum of 144 fps in battlefield 1 on very high settings. I got a 970 now but I don't know if it'd be possible with it. I got some spare cash I earned so might as well go for a big upgrade ?

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13 hours ago, Thony said:

so u wanna tell me your i5 doesnt keep up with your 970?

 

Yep. Drops my framerate below 60 in CPU heavy games like The Division, BF4, TW3, Crysis 3, GTA V, etc. while my GPU usage is below 90%, so obvious CPU bottleneck.

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will it bottleneck it PFFFFFFFFF hahaha that is one of the most powerfull cpu's ofcourse it won't bottleneck it.

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1 hour ago, Monarch said:

 

Yep. Drops my framerate below 60 in CPU heavy games like The Division, BF4, TW3, Crysis 3, GTA V, etc. while my GPU usage is below 90%, so obvious CPU bottleneck.

I don't think so. For CPU to be a bottleneck your GPU usage would have to be low (30%-60%) while CPU usage would be 80%+.

 

But your GPU is loaded pretty well at 90%.

 

I wouldn't blame your hardware for FPS drops. 

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19 minutes ago, Thony said:

I don't think so. For CPU to be a bottleneck your GPU usage would have to be low (30%-60%) while CPU usage would be 80%+.

 

But your GPU is loaded pretty well at 90%.

 

I wouldn't blame your hardware for FPS drops. 

If your CPU hits 99% at times, and your GPU usage is dropping at the same time and you get FPS drops then this is obvious CPU bottleneck. There no need of 30-60% GPU usage to call it bottleneck, any GPU usage drop caused by CPU means that CPU is holding GPU back. For example I have something like this in Witcher 3, market square in Novigrad, with my i5-4690K 4,5 GHz and 980 Ti. I tested what settings I need for 75 FPS, I was scoring 70-80 FPS , and once I hit this CPU intensive place, CPU usage hit 99% and I got sudden drops from 70-80 FPS to 55 because CPU usage was hitting 99% and my GPU usage was dropping to 90 and below. Which leads to the conclusion that more powerful CPU is needed for stable 75 FPS.

 

What you mentioned with 30-60% GPU usage while CPU usage is very high is extreme bottleneck, like top GPU + the slowest CPU.

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15 minutes ago, Krzych said:

If your CPU hits 99% at times, and your GPU usage is dropping at the same time and you get FPS drops then this is obvious CPU bottleneck. There no need of 30-60% GPU usage to call it bottleneck, any GPU usage drop caused by CPU means that CPU is holding GPU back. For example I have something like this in Witcher 3, market square in Novigrad, with my i5-4690K 4,5 GHz and 980 Ti. I tested what settings I need for 75 FPS, I was scoring 70-80 FPS , and once I hit this CPU intensive place, CPU usage hit 99% and I got sudden drops from 70-80 FPS to 55 because CPU usage was hitting 99% and my GPU usage was dropping to 90 and below. Which leads to the conclusion that more powerful CPU is needed for stable 75 FPS.

 

What you mentioned with 30-60% GPU usage while CPU usage is very high is extreme bottleneck, like top GPU + the slowest CPU.

How do you know it's not just because there's also a lot more to render? If you're hitting high amounts in both, then the game is taxing the system pretty well. If the game is taxing the CPU but the GPU usage drops, then the CPU is a bottleneck.

 

EDIT: Oh, never mind, didn't read it all through :P

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16 hours ago, Thony said:

so u wanna tell me your i5 doesnt keep up with your 970?

I get FPS spikes when running chrome in the background of GTA with a 4690k and a 960

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1 hour ago, Thony said:

I don't think so. For CPU to be a bottleneck your GPU usage would have to be low (30%-60%) while CPU usage would be 80%+.

 

But your GPU is loaded pretty well at 90%.

 

I wouldn't blame your hardware for FPS drops. 

 

I said below 90%. It goes up to 90% sometimes, depending on what's going on, but it's 50-90% in CPU-bound scenarios. And no, GPU usage doesn't have to be 30-60% to call it a bottleneck. Everything under 100% means the GPU is technically bottlenecked. 

As for the CPU, yes it's usage is high, 80%+ in the games I mentioned, and it's the games using it that much, there's nothing running in the background.

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3 hours ago, Monarch said:

 

Yep. Drops my framerate below 60 in CPU heavy games like The Division, BF4, TW3, Crysis 3, GTA V, etc. while my GPU usage is below 90%, so obvious CPU bottleneck.

I get it in the open world games too dudr

its mostly the game loading new content that slows the fps down 

especially in gta v

even when it was on my ssd 

all open world games my gpu usage drops and CPU never hits over 50 percent usage it's just loading the new stuff in

but the i7 does help more 

especially in witcher 3 in the big city's 

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23 hours ago, Energycore said:

As long as it's overclocked you'll be fine. You'd get a couple more fps from a new CPU.

WHAT!?! Please, don't comment unless you know. Keep in mind this is the 4770k not the 4790k.

 

 

 

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