Renaming a CPU?

[NecroFlex]

SO i have a Xeon E3 1230 V2, which is basically an i7-3770, but since people are stupid, they think xeons are bad and useless and only want i7's, so is it possible to ''rename'' the CPU in windows atleast, so it shows it's an i7-3770 even if the BIOS shows the real name? Cause selling a xeon is harder than saying that it's an i7.

 

Thanks.

[themctipers]

No.

Don't try to sell a xeon saying its an i7 3770.

[Naeaes]

4 minutes ago, NecroFlex said:

SO i have a Xeon E3 1230 V2, which is basically an i7-3770, but since people are stupid, they think xeons are bad and useless and only want i7's, so is it possible to ''rename'' the CPU in windows atleast, so it shows it's an i7-3770 even if the BIOS shows the real name? Cause selling a xeon is harder than saying that it's an i7.

 

Thanks.

Dude. You really thing we'd help you trick people? That's borderline illegal.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just say that in the add, dont sell someone lies

[NecroFlex]

Not my fault people are retarded. I can easily tell them it's a xeon that's as powerful as an i7-3770 but consumes less power and they will still think it's shit and not good, if i say it's an i7-3770, they'll instantly want to buy it.

[Voicemakataka]

Why this wouldn't work 

1. Wouldn't this be a type of fraud

2. Even if you could change it in your bios wouldn't it reset in the new owners pc?

3.couldnt they just look on top of the physical part and clearly read Xeon?

 

What you can try

1. Try explaining to them 

2. If you need to sell it really bad I guess you could list it as the i7 and then message them when they are interested and explain that you "mis spelled" it and you can say that this way laying around and you can explain that they are both pretty similar

[Telebubbies]

8 minutes ago, Voicemakataka said:

Why this wouldn't work 

1. Wouldn't this be a type of fraud

2. Even if you could change it in your bios wouldn't it reset in the new owners pc?

3.couldnt they just look on top of the physical part and clearly read Xeon?

 

What you can try

1. Try explaining to them 

2. If you need to sell it really bad I guess you could list it as the i7 and then message them when they are interested and explain that you "mis spelled" it and you can say that this way laying around and you can explain that they are both pretty similar

The thermal paste always covers the physical part on top of the CPU.

[Voicemakataka]

4 minutes ago, Telebubbies said:

The thermal paste always covers the physical part on top of the CPU.

Wouldn't the person clean that off and apply new paste and he would notice the name?

[AshleyAshes]

3 hours ago, NecroFlex said:

Not my fault people are retarded. I can easily tell them it's a xeon that's as powerful as an i7-3770 but consumes less power and they will still think it's shit and not good, if i say it's an i7-3770, they'll instantly want to buy it.

Except that the Xeon E3 1230 V2 has a speed of 3.3ghz and a turbo of 3.7ghz, where as an i7 3770 has a speed of 3.4ghz and a turbo of 3.9ghz.  The i7 3770 is the superior processor.  Yet you feel that 'people are retarded' for not paying the price of i7 3770 for an inferior item and that your only solution is to scam them in an attempt to sell them a lesser thing for more money.

 

I think we need to re-evaluate who is 'Retarded' in this scenario that you find yourself in.

[NecroFlex]

5 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

Except that the Xeon E3 1230 V2 has a speed of 3.3ghz and a turbo of 3.7ghz, where as an i7 3770 has a speed of 3.4ghz and a turbo of 3.9ghz.  The i7 3770 is the superior processor.  Yet you feel that 'people are retarded' for not paying the price of i7 3770 for an inferior item and that your only solution is to scam them in an attempt to sell them a lesser thing for more money.

 

I think we need to re-evaluate who is 'Retarded' in this scenario that you find yourself in.

Yup, we should re-evaluate the retarded part and add you on the list aswell...

 

The i7-3770 is worth less than the E3 1230 V2, look it up. The clock speed difference is next to nothing, what did u expect from a xeon? 3.3Ghz normal and 5.5Ghz turbo or something? If you'd really be that desperate for those extra Mhz, you can tweak it a bit in the BIOS and easily get them that way. The only real difference is that the xeon has no iGPU (tho anyone who's buying an i7-3770 won't yolo on the igpu...) but has support for ECC (which usually means support for more ram)

 

The E3 1230 V2 is in a computer already and on sale, the price is ~20% lower than an i7-3770 PC's are going for with inferior components, but since they are i7's they actually sell cause people think that an i7 can easily be OCed to like 5Ghz cause it's an i7...

[ybriK]

So many benchmarks online showing a 1230 v2 <>= 3770. Just show them those...

[AshleyAshes]

2 hours ago, NecroFlex said:

Yup, we should re-evaluate the retarded part and add you on the list aswell...

 

The i7-3770 is worth less than the E3 1230 V2, look it up. The clock speed difference is next to nothing, what did u expect from a xeon? 3.3Ghz normal and 5.5Ghz turbo or something? If you'd really be that desperate for those extra Mhz, you can tweak it a bit in the BIOS and easily get them that way. The only real difference is that the xeon has no iGPU (tho anyone who's buying an i7-3770 won't yolo on the igpu...) but has support for ECC (which usually means support for more ram)

 

The E3 1230 V2 is in a computer already and on sale, the price is ~20% lower than an i7-3770 PC's are going for with inferior components, but since they are i7's they actually sell cause people think that an i7 can easily be OCed to like 5Ghz cause it's an i7...

All I see here is you pointing out that your Xeon most certainly has less features than the 3770 but still feeling justified in committing fraud.

[harrynowl]

You need to change the cpuid. good luck

[Nena Trinity]

Not gonna work unless you can hack it like Intel does at the factory with failed i7s and rename them to i3 or i5...

[NeoFrux]

You paid less for the Xeon than you did for the 3770K. The MSRP is roughly $70 in difference. You're also not getting the IGP, and you're not getting the same frequencies or TDP. It is not the same chip, even if it performs about on par. This is like selling a Jetta as a BMW because they both do the same thing. Even if you don't care about the extra features, saying they are the same chip is by definition fraud. To top that off, the Xeon has a locked multiplier, while the 3770K is unlocked, and most of the time when people are looking for older chips like this, they're looking to do overclocking, and BCLK overclocking only goes so far.

I mean let's be real here, if it were that easy to fool people, you could make a killing buying up Xeon E3 1230 V2's and selling them as i7-3770K's. This is the whole point behind processor identifiers.

 

TL;DR don't be a douchebag.

[NumLock21]

Xeons are higher binned than Core i7. Those that pass the series of test with flying colors are branded as Xeons, those that don't but are still great are Core i7. The reason most consumers only want a Core i7 is the amount of computers they see with that logo. You won't see a Xeon on any of them when you go shop at a retail store. Only those that know a bit or very interested in computers will know that Xeons are the best of the best. For the 99% out there, they won't know about it.

Apple's Mac Pro right after they switch from IBM Power PC to Intel, has always run on Xeons not Core i7s.

Xeons also have IGPUs especially the mainstream series not the high-end ones.

[Mark77]

Maybe find someone to trade the CPU with for a "consumer" i7?

 

I'd trade you my i7-2600 chip for that one because I actually want a Xeon chip instead of the i7 for my server.  So you'd have a proper i7 to sell.  Even throw in an unused Intel HSF.

 

Only "catch" is that you'd have to live in rural northern Canada nearby to do the deal

 

Other than that, don't rip ppl off. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Festive]

Not being a scumbag usually helps with sales.

[SLAYR]

15 hours ago, NecroFlex said:

Yup, we should re-evaluate the retarded part and add you on the list aswell...

 

The i7-3770 is worth less than the E3 1230 V2, look it up. The clock speed difference is next to nothing, what did u expect from a xeon? 3.3Ghz normal and 5.5Ghz turbo or something? If you'd really be that desperate for those extra Mhz, you can tweak it a bit in the BIOS and easily get them that way. The only real difference is that the xeon has no iGPU (tho anyone who's buying an i7-3770 won't yolo on the igpu...) but has support for ECC (which usually means support for more ram)

 

The E3 1230 V2 is in a computer already and on sale, the price is ~20% lower than an i7-3770 PC's are going for with inferior components, but since they are i7's they actually sell cause people think that an i7 can easily be OCed to like 5Ghz cause it's an i7...

The problem with selling xeon computers at the same price as their core counterparts are that eventually someone will pay, but the person who will pay for the computer will have to know that the xeon is basically a 3770, so you have to market it to people who know computers such as the LTT classified section, or buisnesses looking for server grade hardware. 

 

For example I just recently bought a dell workstation because it had a xeon e3 1245v1 which is basically a i7 2600 minus 0.1GHz, and paid a lot less for it then the core counterparts, but the average person buying a computer will not take the time to research that, so due to the demand of the xeons the computers can be worth a lot less unless you sell it to someone needing server grade stuff.

[AshleyAshes]

8 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

 

Apple's Mac Pro right after they switch from IBM Power PC to Intel, has always run on Xeons not Core i7s.

Xeons also have IGPUs especially the mainstream series not the high-end ones.

Ya know, I think the fact that many models of Mac Pro are multi-socket systems and there is no such thing as a multi-socket i7, might be a bigger factor in the Mac Pros not using i7s...

[No]

just list that the xeon is a more powerful version of the i7

or tell them that its the i7 Xeon editon. the best i7 there is

[NumLock21]

49 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Ya know, I think the fact that many models of Mac Pro are multi-socket systems and there is no such thing as a multi-socket i7, might be a bigger factor in the Mac Pros not using i7s...

i7 can't do multi-socket only xeons can. The current mac pro is only a uni socket.

[NecroFlex]

16 hours ago, Runefox said:

You paid less for the Xeon than you did for the 3770K. The MSRP is roughly $70 in difference. You're also not getting the IGP, and you're not getting the same frequencies or TDP. It is not the same chip, even if it performs about on par. This is like selling a Jetta as a BMW because they both do the same thing. Even if you don't care about the extra features, saying they are the same chip is by definition fraud. To top that off, the Xeon has a locked multiplier, while the 3770K is unlocked, and most of the time when people are looking for older chips like this, they're looking to do overclocking, and BCLK overclocking only goes so far.

I mean let's be real here, if it were that easy to fool people, you could make a killing buying up Xeon E3 1230 V2's and selling them as i7-3770K's. This is the whole point behind processor identifiers.

 

TL;DR don't be a douchebag.

i7-3770...do you even read...where did i say it's the same as the K version? Quote me please, i'd love to see that. Also i bought a server with this processor in it, replaced the CPU with a pentium and sold it forward, basically ''buying'' the Xeon for 50€ + a 64GB SSD.

10 hours ago, Mark77 said:

Maybe find someone to trade the CPU with for a "consumer" i7?

 

I'd trade you my i7-2600 chip for that one because I actually want a Xeon chip instead of the i7 for my server.  So you'd have a proper i7 to sell.  Even throw in an unused Intel HSF.

 

Only "catch" is that you'd have to live in rural northern Canada nearby to do the deal

 

Other than that, don't rip ppl off. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Welp, sadly i'm across the globe in Europe

 

Not really ripping ppl off, i did put it's a xeon but almost the same as the 3770, yet people are like ''the i7 is better cause it's the i7 hurrdurr''

10 hours ago, Festive said:

Not being a scumbag usually helps with sales.

Never said i actually listed it as an i7, i said it'sa xeon that has more or less the same power as the i7-3770, which is true.

5 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

i7 can't do multi-socket only xeons can. The current mac pro is only a uni socket.

Actually they could, atleast the 1366 socket did, ofc modifying the BIOS but it did work