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Thoughts on Bernie Sanders?

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Just now, GreezyJeezy said:

in this election any vote is really bad imo

If that is your vote than stick with it proudly is all I ask. Atleast you have an opinion to stand by.

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So far, he's the only one who has put out a clear plan and stuck to most

everything he says.  He's layed out his exact tax plans and isn't afraid of 

telling people that they are going to have to pay a little more.  He does 

everything he says he is going to do and is definitely the least sketchy

popular candidates which is why he has gained my support because I

can't in my right mind trust Hillary to  represent the people she acts like

she cares about, I'm still not entirely sure how she has the larger percent

of the minority vote and LGTBQ+ vote given her history.

       And then on theother hand Trump is almost as sketchy with many of

his details of his tax and business dealings that are borderline fraud and

felony tax evasion. On top of him being an egotistical maniac that seems

to have gone out of his way to offend every group of people possible.  His

unrealistic plan to build a wall, with somehow forcing Mexico to pay for it;

which if Mexico refuses (which they will) he would impose a tax on the

imported goods with our nations third largest trade partner.  This would

have a large impact on the price of goods in America, which would ultimately

hurt the pocket of our citizens.  His plans to block Muslims from coming to

America is not only against the first amendment, it is against everything this

country prides itself on (the whole "America is a welcoming pot of different

cultures" facade) which is utter bullshit given our history.  His vague/lack of any

foreign policy ideas at all other than "America first" which has already alarmed

our allies and would hurt those with his overly isolationist concept.  His war on

china idea for a trade agreement with our second largest trading partner would

be terrible for the same reason as the wall.  His bullsh** stance on caring about

veterans in the V.A. while Bernie has introduced legislation to improve the V.A

health care, which is usually shot down by republicans.  Trump acts like he gives

a rats ass about vets because he knows conservatives are dumb enough to

support anyone who says they care. It helps that he is a repeat draft dodger. He

says he supports the second amendment, which I do as well; however, considering

the fact that he would (attempt to) open up libel laws shows how idiotic and

unconstitutional his ideas could grow to be.

           Now I know I could vote for an independent, but seeing as how this election 

is headed, it's probably going to be the Donald Vs. Hillary and I'm going to do

everything I can to keep Donald out of the white house.  Voting independent

exponentially increases his chance of beating Hillary and this whole Bernie or

bust movement is idiotic.  This isn't a true democracy we have in America, we

can't have a write in as our electoral college is fucked as are our delegate system.

Independents mean well, but as of right now the system will not allow for anyone

that isn't part of the two main parties.

           If you feel like I should go on why I support Bernie let me know and I can

go on another little rant about that but given the above I'd have to be stupid to want

one of the other realistic candidates.

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On 4/24/2016 at 11:33 AM, No said:

because they earned that money from working hard, and you just take more of that money away from them

and there are multiple reasons for the minimum wage thing

Man I got some bad new for you if you supported Reagen. Yes there are

multiple reason for minimum wage: paying for food, shelter, insurance, 

children. The first minimum wage was considered radical at $.25 if you

don't calculate for inflation.  It was paired with limits on hours to curb the

ridiculous hours and pay that messed people up in the industrialization

period and beyond.  Or exactly how America says places are so bad forcing

people to work 70 hour workweeks for dirt pay, minimum wage puts us apart

from that.  I'm sure those CEOs can suffer not accepting 100 million dollar bonuses :'(

On 4/19/2016 at 2:36 PM, nj4ck said:

what do you mean? The rich often pay lower effective rates than the middle class, you're saying you're OK with that? And how is minimum wage a "no"? It would literally be close to $15 today had it just kept up with inflation.

It would actaully be in the 20s ;)

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1 minute ago, CJPowell27 said:

Man I got some bad new for you if you supported Reagen. Yes there are

multiple reason for minimum wage: paying for food, shelter, insurance, 

children. The first minimum wage was considered radical at $.25 if you

don't calculate for inflation.  It was paired with limits on hours to curb the

ridiculous hours and pay that messed people up in the industrialization

period and beyond.  Or exactly how America says places are so bad forcing

people to work 70 hour workweeks for dirt pay, minimum wage puts us apart

from that.  I'm sure those CEOs can suffer not accepting 100 million dollar bonuses :'(

It would actaully be in the 20s ;)

Lol i wasnt even alive when reagen was president

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5 minutes ago, No said:

Lol i wasnt even alive when reagen was president

My bad, supported was the wrong tense, I should have used support/like. He's the

poster boy conservatives love. I would encourage you to research him.  He

is arguably the last good republican president. 

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10 hours ago, GreezyJeezy said:

well thats not true, trump will build a wall thats "constructive" :P 

Hahah

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