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AMD’s ‘Greenland’ GPU Will Likely Contain 4096 Shader Cores, Indicated By LinkedIn Profile

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http://deliddedtech.com/2016/03/26/amds-greenland-gpu-will-likely-contain-4096-shader-cores/

 

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The LinkedIn Profile of a R&D Manager at AMD indicates that ‘Greenland’, the codename for one of the high end 14 NM GPUs being produced by AMD, will contain 4096 shader cores. 

 

Sounds like this will be either the 490x, or their flagship GPU. They're pushing hard for improved power efficiency, but I wonder if this will perform much better than the Fury X, since it has the same amount of shader cores. It may be able to be clocked higher because it's more power efficient. Unless AMD's contracts lock it down like they did with the Nano, I could see manufacturers giving it a bulky heatsink/more power connectors, and clocking it much higher than reference cards on some models.

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Interesting. Shader cores aren't everything, so doesn't say much about actual performance. There are also ROPs and TMUs among other things. AMD had some trouble feeding all those shader cores on the Fiji chips if I recall correctly. 

 

I wonder whether AMD will keep the Fury brand or if it was a one-off thing. That would help determine where this slots in. It's most likely above 480. 

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"Greeland" is what is now known as the Vega GPU, which is coming at the end of the year to co-exist with Polaris. Unlike Polaris it will have HBM2

 

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We are getting rumors now from LinkedIn. My god I thought WCCF was extreme

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26 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

We are getting rumors now from LinkedIn. My god I thought WCCF was extreme

Actually Linkedin is often how we learn a lot of different things and how WCCF learns things.  You'll see engineers post hidden little snippets on there.

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3 hours ago, eyecantseeover24fps said:

http://deliddedtech.com/2016/03/26/amds-greenland-gpu-will-likely-contain-4096-shader-cores/

 

 

Sounds like this will be either the 490x, or their flagship GPU. They're pushing hard for improved power efficiency, but I wonder if this will perform much better than the Fury X, since it has the same amount of shader cores. It may be able to be clocked higher because it's more power efficient. Unless AMD's contracts lock it down like they did with the Nano, I could see manufacturers giving it a bulky heatsink/more power connectors, and clocking it much higher than reference cards on some models.

apparently TSMC's 16 nm allows for 65% for up to faster clock speed.

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2 hours ago, RagnarokDel said:

apparently TSMC's 16 nm allows for 65% for up to faster clock speed.

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Point is factors such as the design of the architecture could limit the boost in clock speeds, after all AMD does typically have lower overall clock speeds.

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6 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Interesting. Shader cores aren't everything, so doesn't say much about actual performance. There are also ROPs and TMUs among other things. AMD had some trouble feeding all those shader cores on the Fiji chips if I recall correctly. 

 

I wonder whether AMD will keep the Fury brand or if it was a one-off thing. That would help determine where this slots in. It's most likely above 480. 

It says nothing of even the performance of the shader cores themselves. Like I said in the other thread, this number is absolutely meaningless without the performance of  another Vega GPU as a reference.

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4 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

We are getting rumors now from LinkedIn.

Nothing new, been this way for years.

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14 Newton-Mols ?

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6 hours ago, RagnarokDel said:

apparently TSMC's 16 nm allows for 65% for up to faster clock speed.

I would assume Samsung's 14nm LPP allows for higher clocks, because it's smaller.

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#1 Please change the title to Vega instead of Greenland since Greenland is AMD's old code name that isn't used anymore.

#2 I am assuming that then probably AMD has highly improved the ipc as well as improved clock speeds in order to tive us the same 4096 stream processors As Fiji. 

#3 Could indicate that with Polaris we will be seeing GPUs with less stream processors than Fiji... Interesting.

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14 Newton-Mols ?

I lol'd. I don't even know what that unit measures.

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I lol'd. I don't even know what that unit measures.

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I shall devote multiple years of research to find a model that uses the Newton-Mol for something.

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#1 Please change the title to Vega instead of Greenland since Greenland is AMD's old code name that isn't used anymore.

#2 I am assuming that then probably AMD has highly improved the ipc as well as improved clock speeds in order to tive us the same 4096 stream processors As Fiji. 

#3 Could indicate that with Polaris we will be seeing GPUs with less stream processors than Fiji... Interesting.

A die like the one from 45 to 28nm yielded around 20-30% performance increase. However this time it will be a huge jump. Much larger than in many years.

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So same shaders as Fury X yet they improved GCN quite a lot. Larger jump in performance for sure. As far as clock speeds it will be interesting to see what they'll pull off.

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So same shaders as Fury X yet they improved GCN quite a lot. Larger jump in performance for sure. As far as clock speeds it will be interesting to see what they'll pull off.

Well, the Polaris 10 GPU we saw was around 2000 shaders (can't remember exactly) and only ran at 800MHz, with that it was able to be at least faster than an R9 290, we can see AMD has made some large improvements to it's shaders.

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5 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

Well, the Polaris 10 GPU we saw was around 2000 shaders (can't remember exactly) and only ran at 800MHz, with that it was able to be at least faster than an R9 290, we can see AMD has made some large improvements to it's shaders.

Yeah, no doubt. Though Vega being higher end flagship with HBM2 also they'll be pushing performance. It's about how much they balance performance/efficiency.

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3 minutes ago, Doobeedoo said:

Yeah, no doubt. Though Vega being higher end flagship with HBM2 also they'll be pushing performance. It's about how much they balance performance/efficiency.

I believe Polaris 10/11 will push efficiency, while Vega 10\11 will push performance, much like Nvidia with the 950/960, 970/980 and the 980 Ti/ Titan X.

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On 3/27/2016 at 11:34 PM, RagnarokDel said:

apparently TSMC's 16 nm allows for 65% for up to faster clock speed.

But also higher efficiency.  And you can't have both...  So since it looks like AMD is aiming for efficiency this time around, it may not have a clock that's a crazy amount higher than what we're used to.

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On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2016 at 8:29 AM, Trixanity said:

Interesting. Shader cores aren't everything, so doesn't say much about actual performance. There are also ROPs and TMUs among other things. AMD had some trouble feeding all those shader cores on the Fiji chips if I recall correctly. 

 

I wonder whether AMD will keep the Fury brand or if it was a one-off thing. That would help determine where this slots in. It's most likely above 480. 

They had half the amount of ROPs as they should have had. I heard it was due to not having enough die space for them :(

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7 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

They had half the amount of ROPs as they should have had. I heard it was due to not having enough die space for them :(

Yeah. I imagine they've done testing and found that the die space available to them is better used on adding other things than more shaders. Besides, the shaders themselves have probably improved. 

 

In any case, these are all rumors and there is no telling that even if specs are correct, that the chip attached to the rumor is correct. 

 

 

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