ASRock's Latest BIOS Removes SkyOC Feature

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

1 minute ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Nvdia and intel don't block OC'ing or SLIing card with a slightly different model not to make it preform faster, but just to make more money.

 

I could Xfire a HD 7870 XT with a R9 280x GHz if I wanted to, it will not be as fast as a HD 7950 Xfire, but it isn't a slow as a single R9 280x GHz.

what you'll actually be doing with your non-sense concept is creating bottlenecks every where, and you know what i'm done, you should really contact intel and nvidia and every god for sacking chip manufacturer with you genius concept 

[comicsansms]

Just now, LawrenceBarnes2013 said:

what you'll actually be doing with your non-sense concept is creating bottlenecks every where, and you know what i'm done, you should really contact intel and nvidia and every god for sacking chip manufacturer with you genius concept 

I should, but they are dicks (Especially Nvidia) and would say no.

[patrickjp93]

3 hours ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

To have a multi tier ecosystem?

 

That isn't a good reason.

It's an extremely good reason. Each market segment gets tailor-made solutions, which is good for consumers and Intel's bottom line.

[NumLock21]

Imo it's not about $$$, all of the cpus are theirs. Its more about saving their more expensive k cpus from becoming extinct. Majority of their profit isnt from k cpus anyway. 

 

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Imo it's not about $$$, all of the cpus are theirs. Its more about saving their more expensive k cpus from becoming extinct. Majority of their profit isnt from k cpus anyway. 

 

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[daniellearmouth]

3 hours ago, mikat said:

that reason is: intel is greedy af

Oh really.

 

Tell me then. What are the differences between the 4790 and the 4790K?

And before you say "you can overclock one and that's it", I'll stop that there and say you're wrong.

[NumLock21]

4 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

You are the 600,000th post in this subforum

This is the 600,001st post

on topic: Easy fix: Don't update your BIOS if you can. 

Do i get a badge?

Want to oc then, I'll grab a k cpu.  No need for skylake doe. Running on xeon e5.

[Ex14]

I like how (find it funny) the tune went from "its just a rumor, calm your tits guys" when it was a rumor thread to "its intel's product/perfectly justifiable theyre doing this." When its finally shown intel is doing something

 

more on topic, im sorry guys, it kinda feels like a money grabbing move from intel. They didnt clamp down on bclk oc-ing cause it affected other components. But now that its seperate. I guess theyre afraid that not only us builders but probably some of the oem partners start to buy lower specced parts and trying to get better perf than the equivalent non OCed part. Intel is within their rights to do this, but still its still a dick move (to me at least) well it doesnt matter anyway, I just hope that someone comes up and is able to compete with them to force them to do better and possibly not have them do stuff like that but yeap well just wait and see.

 

 

 

 

[azurezeed]

It was good while it lasted

[That Norwegian Guy]

4 hours ago, LawrenceBarnes2013 said:

well, dude you can't, period .No should's, we talking about what we can and cannot do not what we wish to do, and nvidia blocks that to guarantee optimal performance  

 

His point is that the gpus in question are able to be SLi'd, but Nvidia (being assholes) block it to artificially lock users away from options.

 

AMD for example, lets you Crossfire a 290 with a 290x, hell a Nano with a Fury X and even an R9 295x2 with a 290 or 290x.

 

Because they're the same GPU chip.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

11 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

 

His point is that the gpus in question are able to be SLi'd, but Nvidia (being assholes) block it to artificially lock users away from options.

 

AMD for example, lets you Crossfire a 290 with a 290x, hell a Nano with a Fury X and even an R9 295x2 with a 290 or 290x.

 

Because they're the same GPU chip.

i know, absolutely i know, my point is that (yes they do it partially to make money obviously) they do that so that you'll be guaranteed the best performance and to avoid any issues being caused by the different GPUs (i know they develop a driver for it as well but, again they do need to make money) 

[NateGSR117]

Wow, the sad day came sooner than I thought. Why intel?! It was so cool until you ruined it.

[Megahurt]

5 hours ago, Gofspar said:

you do know how Intel manufacturers CPU's right, all the 1151 CPU's come from the same Silicon wafer. The dual cores are damaged quadcores that they use a laser to cut the other 2 damaged cores off. Of course theres binning in place. IE 6100 vs 6320.

It would make no economical sense for intel to produce dual core chips from disabled quad cores given the amount they sell, on lower end and in the mobile. Dual cores come from different wafers, if not they'd just be throwing away half their production.

[mikat]

1 hour ago, daniellearmouth said:

Oh really.

 

Tell me then. What are the differences between the 4790 and the 4790K?

And before you say "you can overclock one and that's it", I'll stop that there and say you're wrong.

but intel is still greedy af

[dtaflorida]

I hate it when products loose functionality, but only to be sold as a different tier of product to make more money.

 

Kinda sucks, you know you're old when you're talkin to the young'uns bout the good old days... when base clock and multipliers weren't locked... and multiple processors wasn't limited to Xeons. And whole milk had cream and butter floating at the top.

[iamdarkyoshi]

Well this is making it to the WAN show for sure...

 

Wonder what supermicro is going to do with that giveaway PC with the high clocked i3?

[daniellearmouth]

15 minutes ago, mikat said:

but intel is still greedy af

You're not answering my question.

 

So clearly this is a waste of time trying to and explain to you how this whole thing works.

[Curufinwe_wins]

As long as the old bios copies are still around that's good enough for me.

[zMeul]

6 hours ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Intel, stop being dicks. Make every CPU unlocked and have 2 series of motherboards, the overclockable ones, and the locked one.

I don't agree with that stance

manufacturers saw a vulnerability and they exploited it, just like ASUS did with those 3 extra pins - this time Intel showed them who's boss

[iamdarkyoshi]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

just like ASUS did with those 3 extra pins

What

[zMeul]

4 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

What

ASUS discovered that the CPU could be supplied with extra power via additional pins that weren't present in the initial LGA socket configuration

http://rog.asus.com/347222014/rampage-motherboards/asus-rog-x99-exclusive-oc-socket-extra-pins-extra-performance/

[iamdarkyoshi]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

don't recall exactly what LGA it was but ASUS discovered that the CPU could be supplied with extra power via 3 additional pins that weren't present in the initial LGA socket configuration

Interesting. Kinda reminds me of the LGA775 BSEL mods. Wonder how many motheboards had built in software or hardware to mod the pins there...

[SurvivorNVL]

Don't see much a problem with this, honestly.  There're still the older bioses, and Intel sells the locked chips cheaper than the overclocked ones - the overclocking bit was more of a bonus, the bonus is gone(if you update your bios every bios update), and you still get an excellent processor.

[Sunako]

I'm glad to see the OC on non K chips discontinued for that fact it lessens the chances of what was going on in late 90's and early 2000's with venders selling prebuilt systems

with lower spec CPU's then Overclocking them to make it seem like they were a higher part inside. I know most of use here could care less about prebuilts and blame people for not understanding the spec/s and partlist inside a machine but for dear old grandma and grandpa out there that might be upgrading and just want to use a PC this protects them.

[Sauron]

6 hours ago, LawrenceBarnes2013 said:

it was a bad idea in the first place, we have this K and non-K Limitations for a reason 

There is no reason for a cpu to be locked. None. Zip.

 

There ARE reasons for which you may not want to oc on some chipsets.