4790k or 6700k?

[Dabombinable]

No, you simply didn't follow part of my statement, and side stepped the rest.

Haswell and Broadwell are an exception-they are different from all other CPU.

http://hothardware.com/news/haswell-takes-a-major-step-forward-integrates-voltage-regulator

^that has a diagram that explains everything well^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_regulator_module

http://wccftech.com/intel-abandon-internal-voltage-regulator-skylake-microarchitecture/

 

You'd know that if you used Google

[007agentHP]

FIVR=Full Integrated Voltage Regulator, AKA the VRM are moved from the motherboard to the CPU itself, requiring a new socket and increasing efficiency.

 

See above. You both really don't know much about Haswell.

what advantage does that have to the average consumer?

if anything, that has some advantages to overclockers, but they make up a small part of the pc industry

[Dabombinable]

what advantage does that have to the average consumer?

if anything, that has some advantages to overclockers, but they make up a small part of the pc industry

Read my previous post.

[App4that]

Read my previous post.

You're ignoring us because there is nothing of benefit worth spending more on Skylake lol. Like I said at the same price you lose nothing going with Skylake. But Skylake is not worth spending more than Haswell on.

[Dabombinable]

You're ignoring us because there is nothing of benefit worth spending more on Skylake lol. Like I said at the same price you lose nothing going with Skylake. But Skylake is not worth spending more than Haswell on.

Ignoring you? How exactly? Also read my first post in this thread and stop being and idiot.

[App4that]

Ignoring you? How exactly? Also read my first post in this thread and stop being and idiot.

LOL! You haven't shown how that is worth it to the average consumer for the added price lol. You're just repeating "now with flavor boost"

[NumLock21]

M.2 is crippled on the Z97 where as on the Z170 it runs at full speed. The Z170 also lets you do either standard or bclk overclocking, and has more pcie lanes so you can add more pcie devices. They all run at 3.0. Z97 runs at 2.0 Price your saving between DDR3 and DDR4 is around $16 bucks

[App4that]

M.2 is crippled on the Z97 where as on the Z170 it runs at full speed. The Z170 also lets you do either standard or bclk overclocking, and has more pcie lanes so you can add more pcie devices. They all run at 3.0. Z97 runs at 2.0

No, my Z97 board says otherwise. But Skylake does have a few extra lanes. Though I ran crossfire and a wireless adapter without a problem.

[NumLock21]

No, my Z97 board says otherwise. But Skylake does have a few extra lanes. Though I ran crossfire and a wireless adapter without a problem.

Your wifi card grabs lanes from the chipset not from the cpu. Skylake has a lot more lanes, not just a few.

[App4that]

Your wifi card grabs lanes from the chipset not from the cpu. Skylake has a lot more lanes, not just a few.

You've read the stick on the Skylake PCI lanes, correct? I'll give you a chance to read that before I comment.

[NumLock21]

You've read the stick on the Skylake PCI lanes, correct? I'll give you a chance to read that before I comment.

I know what I'm talking about, now you can read that sticky and then comment.

[App4that]

I know what I'm talking about, now you can read that sticky and then comment.

OK, quantify "a lot". Let's start there.

[Dabombinable]

LOL! You haven't shown how that is worth it to the average consumer for the added price lol. You're just repeating "now with flavor boost"

Read my OP and the original recommendation-get the 6700K if it doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration, otherwise get the 4790K as its still an excellent CPU. As for Skylake over Haswell, the socket does have all lanes running at PCIe Gen 3.0, it has at least 1 more line of compatible CPU coming in the future and it gains performance from DDR4 in all tasks (which is nice to see). As for Haswell/Broadwell over other CPU, the FIVR removes some of the complexity from the motherboard allowing manufacturers to make cheaper motherboards. It also benefits mobile devices as you should have seen with the Macbook and the line of mobile processors derived from Haswell. Without it we wouldn't have NUC as powerful as they are, we wouldn't have devices such as the compute stick, and we wouldn't be seeing tablets and phones with x86 CPU that are as powerful as they are over previous generations.

[NumLock21]

OK, quantify "a lot". Let's start there.

Do you know how many lanes the Intel Z170 vs Z97 chipset has?

[App4that]

Read my OP and the original recommendation-get the 6700K if it doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration, otherwise get the 4790K as its still an excellent CPU. As for Skylake over Haswell, the socket does have all lanes running at PCIe Gen 3.0, it has at least 1 more line of compatible CPU coming in the future and it gains performance from DDR4 in all tasks (which is nice to see). As for Haswell/Broadwell over other CPU, the FIVR removes some of the complexity from the motherboard allowing manufacturers to make cheaper motherboards. It also benefits mobile devices as you should have seen with the Macbook and the line of mobile processors derived from Haswell. Without it we wouldn't have NUC as powerful as they are, we wouldn't have devices such as the compute stick, and we wouldn't be seeing tablets and phones with x86 CPU that are as powerful as they are over previous generations.

Awesome explanation, not being a smart ass. But it ignores the question. The OP has 16g of good quality ram, so what makes it worth not using? What gains would the OP have with Skylake that makes spend the money on it a priority over, say a better GPU?

[App4that]

Do you know how many lanes the Intel Z170 vs Z97 chipset has?

Hmmmmm, interesting question. But it ignores mine.

[Dabombinable]

Awesome explanation, not being a smart ass. But it ignores the question. The OP has 16g of good quality ram, so what makes it worth not using? What gains would the OP have with Skylake that makes spend the money on it a priority over, say a better GPU?

 

If the 6700K doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration, go with it. Otherwise the 4790K is still an excellent CPU.

I myself probably should have gone with a 6700K since at the time I could afford it and have then given my i5 4440+H87M Pro+GTX 650ti OC 2GB+16GB RAM to my brother in the form of his first good computer.

Just stop. You obviously just saw that I posted and flew off the handle because you obviously didn't read my post if your making that comment.

[App4that]

Just stop. You obviously just saw that I posted and flew off the handle because you obviously didn't read my post if your making that comment.

The 4790k can be had for 250us, show me a 6700k for 250us... Then you have the RAM, that they already own.

Your comment was examined and found to be false.

[Dabombinable]

The 4790k can be had for 250us, show me a 6700k for 250us... Then you have the RAM, that they already own.

Your comment was examined and found to be false.

"If the 6700K doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration", eg the cost of DDR4+the 6700K+motherboard over the cost of a 4790K+motherboard. Just shut up and stop making a fool of yourself. And in AUD at the time I bought my 4790K, it would have been only the added cost of DDR4 as I was getting a Z97 Sabertooth MKII, but I decided that since I'd gone from a Pentium III 667 at the start of 2014 to an i5 4440 and the parts mentioned in a previous post, that I might as well just get the 4790K instead as I had no need of Skylake's improvements and I'd have spare parts.

[App4that]

"If the 6700K doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration", eg the cost of DDR4+the 6700K+motherboard over the cost of a 4790K+motherboard. Just shut up and stop making a fool of yourself. And in AUD at the time I bought my 4790K, it would have been only the added cost of DDR4 as I was getting a Z97 Sabertooth MKII, but I decided that since I'd gone from a Pentium III 667 at the start of 2014 to an i5 4440 and the parts mentioned in a previous post, that I might as well just get the 4790K instead as I had no need of Skylake's improvements and I'd have spare parts.

I'm not the one getting aggressive.

You're saying that 200us dollars on average is not "too much" of a difference? Come on. I've been serious with you.

[NumLock21]

Hmmmmm, interesting question. But it ignores mine.

Just curious on how many lanes you though it has? Then I'll explain why there is "a lot".

[App4that]

Just curious on how many lanes you though it has? Then I'll explain why there is "a lot".

Nope, my my first rodeo partner

[alpenwasser]

Since OP already has his answer and this is nothing more than pointless bickering at this point, it shall be locked.