4790k or 6700k?

[PooPotato]

After I upgrade my GPU, I have decided that I will be switching to an Intel CPU.  Right now, I am running an FX-8350 with 16gb of DDR3 G.Skill RAM.  Logic is telling me to get the 4790k, simply because it's cheaper and I can reuse my DDR3 RAM.  Are there any "hidden" benefits I am missing with the Skylake, other than the integrated graphics being nicer?

 

CPU- FX-8350 (w/ 120m Cooler Master Sedion water cooler)

GPU- MSI R9 280

MB- MSI Gaming 970

RAM- 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3

PSU- EVGA Supernova NEX 650-GOLD

Case- Thermaltake Overseer RX-I Snow Edition

Storage- WD Blue 1TB, Sandisk 128GB SSD

 

[Enderman]

you can find the 6700k and DDR4 for pretty much the same price as haswell

[Memories4K]

Considering the 4790k is almost $100 cheaper than the 6700k and you already have DDR3, i'd say 4790k.

Only real difference is 5%-15% in performance, minimum and maximum, that the 6700k would have over the 4790k.

[ZetZet]

How about 5820K

 

 

but since you have 16gb of ram 4790k is the best way to go

[SwiftCraftmc]

I would go with the 4790k i have one and with the right cooling you can overclock well 

[DarkBlade2117]

Can you afford skylake? If yes, I'd get it, the next generation of Intel CPUs will be using LGA 1151 socket.

[Dabombinable]

If the 6700K doesn't cost too much more with everything taken into consideration, go with it. Otherwise the 4790K is still an excellent CPU.

I myself probably should have gone with a 6700K since at the time I could afford it and have then given my i5 4440+H87M Pro+GTX 650ti OC 2GB+16GB RAM to my brother in the form of his first good computer.

[Dr_Pleeper]

Dude, there's almost no difference between the two. Definitely not enough to make me pay $400 for the 6700k instead of the $250 i payed for my 4790k. 

[Senzelian]

You safe quite a bit of money by going with the 4790K, which is btw still a great CPU and because of that I think the 4790K is the better choice.

Can you afford skylake? If yes, I'd get it, the next generation of Intel CPUs will be using LGA 1151 socket.

So what's the advantage?

I don't see one, cause Skylake and Kabylake are probably the only generations that will use 1151. Also why would he want to change his CPU in 1 year again? Doesn't make sense to me.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

What I would say is yes, the performance difference between Haswell and Skylake isn't that big, however if I had a choice, 6700K since you get some newer features and a more sensible upgrade path in the long run. However that doesn't mean that the previous architectures are bad, but if you want those new features, go right ahead.

[SeanBond]

you can find the 6700k and DDR4 for pretty much the same price as haswell

But he would save 80 at least on the ram, and probably another 40 on the motherboard if not more if he can find a good sale. In fact I think I just saw an asus pro plus z87 board for 60 after rebate. But I think it sold out because I can't find it anymore. 

 

Edit: I haven't been keeping up with prices so I didn't even know there was about another hundred to be saved if he got the 4790k instead. 6700k looks to be 400+. Might as well get a 5820k for that price. 

[SeanAngelo]

After I upgrade my GPU, I have decided that I will be switching to an Intel CPU.  Right now, I am running an FX-8350 with 16gb of DDR3 G.Skill RAM.  Logic is telling me to get the 4790k, simply because it's cheaper and I can reuse my DDR3 RAM.  Are there any "hidden" benefits I am missing with the Skylake, other than the integrated graphics being nicer?

 

CPU- FX-8350 (w/ 120m Cooler Master Sedion water cooler)

GPU- MSI R9 280

MB- MSI Gaming 970

RAM- 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3

PSU- EVGA Supernova NEX 650-GOLD

Case- Thermaltake Overseer RX-I Snow Edition

Storage- WD Blue 1TB, Sandisk 128GB SSD

since you already have 16Gb of DDR3, 4790k.

[PooPotato]

Looks like I'll be going with the 4790k.  Thanks for the input everybody!

[007agentHP]

Can you afford skylake? If yes, I'd get it, the next generation of Intel CPUs will be using LGA 1151 socket.

"next gen"

when again does intel keep a socket for more than 2 generations?

lga 1151 will have, at most, skylake and kaby/cannon lake.

lga 1150 had  haswell and a small broadwell release

lga 1155 had sandy bridge and  ivy bridge

lga 1156 i think was nehalem

so consumer sockets have 2 generations, thats it

and honestly, for the average gamer / light video editor  they really arent going to be going from an i7 skylake to an i7 kaby/cannon lake just from like 3% more performance. so not much of an upgrade path without replacing motherboard

so get the i7 4790k and wait for the generation after cannon lake to get a new one, and then youll see a 30%-40% bump in performance. 

thats why most people recommended only upgrading to haswell/broadwell if they had 1st gen nehalem. some people OC their sandy bridge i5s and are fine with them.

[Dabombinable]

"next gen"

when again does intel keep a socket for more than 2 generations?

lga 1151 will have, at most, skylake and kaby/cannon lake.

lga 1150 had  haswell and a small broadwell release

lga 1155 had sandy bridge and  ivy bridge

lga 1156 i think was nehalem

so consumer sockets have 2 generations, thats it

and honestly, for the average gamer / light video editor  they really arent going to be going from an i7 skylake to an i7 kaby/cannon lake just from like 3% more performance. so not much of an upgrade path without replacing motherboard

so get the i7 4790k and wait for the generation after cannon lake to get a new one, and then youll see a 30%-40% bump in performance. 

thats why most people recommended only upgrading to haswell/broadwell if they had 1st gen nehalem. some people OC their sandy bridge i5s and are fine with them.

Look, there are significant differences between Skylake and Haswell/Broadwell, which require the change from LGA1150 to LGA1151.

[Enderman]

But he would save 80 at least on the ram, and probably another 40 on the motherboard if not more if he can find a good sale. In fact I think I just saw an asus pro plus z87 board for 60 after rebate. But I think it sold out because I can't find it anymore. 

 

Edit: I haven't been keeping up with prices so I didn't even know there was about another hundred to be saved if he got the 4790k instead. 6700k looks to be 400+. Might as well get a 5820k for that price. 

you realize that that price is because of low/out of stock right now, right?

the 6700k is not $500 like on amazon

that is just the current price due to demand

 

if you wait until intel makes another shipment and there are enough CPUs to fill demand the price will drop back down to the regular $350

[007agentHP]

Look, there are significant differences between Skylake and Haswell/Broadwell, which require the change from LGA1150 to LGA1151.

like?

i have a haswell i5 and im only moving to the post kaby/cannonlake series because of PCI E 4 and ddr5 on the enthusiast platform.

[App4that]

Look, there are significant differences between Skylake and Haswell/Broadwell, which require the change from LGA1150 to LGA1151.

Like what? DDR4? Overclock your DDR3. PCI lanes? X99 still has more if that's a concern. Heat? Come on lol.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

you realize that that price is because of low/out of stock right now, right?

the 6700k is not $500 like on amazon

that is just the current price due to demand

 

if you wait until intel makes another shipment and there are enough CPUs to fill demand the price will drop back down to the regular $350

100% agree. Intel hasn't been able to fulfill demand due to shortages of TWO of their most popular Skylake CPU's, the i5-6600K and the i7-6700K due to 14nm yields not meeting their own quality standards for those particular SKUs.

[Dabombinable]

like?

i have a haswell i5 and im only moving to the post kaby/cannonlake series because of PCI E 4 and ddr5 on the enthusiast platform.

Like what? DDR4? Overclock your DDR3. PCI lanes? X99 still has more if that's a concern. Heat? Come on lol.

 

The FIVR for example, Haswell and Broadwell are radically different from any other CPU made before them. BTW you both obviously don't know that with CPU there is more to them than just performance-if you knew that then you'd know about the FIVR in Haswell and Broadwell and why they require their own socket.

[007agentHP]

The FIVR for example, Haswell and Broadwell are radically different from any other CPU made before them. BTW you both obviously don't know that with CPU there is more to them than just performance-if you knew that then you'd know about the FIVR in Haswell and Broadwell and why they require their own socket.

source or explanation?

[App4that]

The FIVR for example, Haswell and Broadwell are radically different from any other CPU made before them. BTW you both obviously don't know that with CPU there is more to them than just performance-if you knew that then you'd know about the FIVR in Haswell and Broadwell and why they require their own socket.

They require a new socket by design. You know that right? To the average consumer find an advantage? In five years find an advantage? If at the same price of course you go Skylake, no reason not to. But they're not the same price, especially since the OP can re use the RAM.

[Dabombinable]

source or explanation?

FIVR=Full Integrated Voltage Regulator, AKA the VRM are moved from the motherboard to the CPU itself, requiring a new socket and increasing efficiency.

 

They require a new socket by design. You know that right? To the average consumer find an advantage? In five years find an advantage? If at the same price of course you go Skylake, no reason not to. But they're not the same price, especially since the OP can re use the RAM.

See above. You both really don't know much about Haswell.

[App4that]

FIVR=Full Integrated Voltage Regulator, AKA the VRM are moved from the motherboard to the CPU itself, requiring a new socket and increasing efficiency.

See above. You both really don't know much about Haswell.

No, you simply didn't follow part of my statement, and side stepped the rest.

[SeanBond]

you realize that that price is because of low/out of stock right now, right?

the 6700k is not $500 like on amazon

that is just the current price due to demand

 

if you wait until intel makes another shipment and there are enough CPUs to fill demand the price will drop back down to the regular $350

It's been like that for months, im sure it will go down eventually but when? That still does not mean he wouldn't save plenty on the mobo and ram.