Is WiFi bad for you?

[Godlygamer23]

Cigarettes are not a similar example at all but maybe more so Second hand smoke would be a better equivalent and this is actually illegal in many places. See cigarettes to smoke your self is a choice You dont get to choose if your exposed to WiFi from your neighbors or workplace etc sort of like if someone is smoking and walks past you or in the same room hence why many places its illegal to smoke inside and in public areas and many trying to always pass stricter laws like no smoking in cars with children etc.

My point was that cigarettes are allowed regardless of the health issues. And in fact, the health issues with cigarettes is much more definite than WiFi which the exposure we get is deemed safe by the FCC. You are more likely to get cancer from cell phones than WiFi and even then, that's very debatable.

 

There was a study done(I'll find it) that tested the nocebo affect. People who claimed to be uncomfortable around WiFi had wireless routers strapped to their backs that were unplugged. They claimed to have felt discomfort despite having no radio waves passing through their bodies.

 

Article: http://bigthink.com/neurobonkers/wifi-wont-make-you-ill-but-thinking-it-will-really-can

Edited November 20, 2015 by Godlygamer23

[RedRound2]

Okay, I've always had this doubt

Doesnt visible light have shorter wavelengths than radio waves and microwaves (not talking about the oven, which i believe is harmful due to a lot of energy associated with the waves)? If so wouldn't visible light be comparatively harmful?

Or is that the wifi signals have more voltage compared to most lighting devices?[/quotes] you can go overkill with anything.

The problem with visible light is that there is a lot of it and we had enough time to adopt to it so we are used to it and do not really experience any harm.

Edit: phone+autocorrect+quoting=THIS ... Dajum so dank boyz

 

So that means our body has adapted to up to 400nm wavelengths meaning radio waves shouldn't cause any kind of harm? If that's the case, then isnt this question stupid as light would be more harmful than wifi signals?

Or is our body used to a specific set of wavelengths?

[AshleyAshes]

Have you ever had your phone close to your ear with a bad connection an noticed your ear was hot after finishing your phone call?your ear was heated by your phone emoting electro magnetic waves not by you grabbing it hard or something Your brain is affected the same way the closer it is to the source. So use speakers if you can.

 

To be clear, the Dielectric heating effect of a cellphone has only been proven to increase the temperature of tissues it is directly next to by a mere fraction of a degree.  It doesn't actually make it hot enough for you to even detect with your meager human senses.  ...Now, that CPU, GPU, screen, and everything ELSE in the phone totally makes heat on the other hand and you're putting that warm, electricity consuming phone next to your ear.  Then some people assume that this is somehow caused by radio waves instead.

[Tilaron]

This thread made me more ill than my router ever will.

 

It's nonsense  :lol:

[AshleyAshes]

This thread made me more ill than my router ever will.

 

It's nonsense  :lol:

 

If anything, routers are more likely to cause mental illness.  ...At least the ones with bad firmware.

[Wardaddy]

I know that its not a ionizing radiation but wifi was boomed in the mid 2000s and we still don't know what the long term effects are.....

and i sleep right next to the router every night :mellow:

 

so it wifi 100% safe??

(I'm serious  )If you have a laptop and you keep it on your lap(like I'm doing while posting this) for longer period while connected to wifi then it will reduce the amount of sperm/egg(for male/female respectively) count in the long run but if you use a desktop then you should be fine (unless you sit on your cpu  )

[xiaolongstan]

Cigarettes?

There isn't a "Federal Things-that-go-in-your-mouth Commision" with the power to ban dangerous things that go in your mouth.

[xiaolongstan]

(I'm serious  )If you have a laptop and you keep it on your lap(like I'm doing while posting this) for longer period while connected to wifi then it will reduce the amount of sperm/egg(for male/female respectively) count in the long run but if you use a desktop then you should be fine (unless you sit on your cpu  )

That's due to heat, also the female ovums don't live in your lap, l2anatomy.

[GER_T4IGA]

So that means our body has adapted to up to 400nm wavelengths meaning radio waves shouldn't cause any kind of harm? If that's the case, then isnt this question stupid as light would be more harmful than wifi signals?

Or is our body used to a specific set of wavelengths?

The Other way around. I said we are used to visibly light but not really all that much to the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum( at least not in unnatural portions like wifi would definitely be)

[GER_T4IGA]

To be clear, the Dielectric heating effect of a cellphone has only been proven to increase the temperature of tissues it is directly next to by a mere fraction of a degree. It doesn't actually make it hot enough for you to even detect with your meager human senses. ...Now, that CPU, GPU, screen, and everything ELSE in the phone totally makes heat on the other hand and you're putting that warm, electricity consuming phone next to your ear. Then some people assume that this is somehow caused by radio waves instead.

Well give a source that proves me wrong but my physics teacher would probably argue otherswise with you(all day).

[Wardaddy]

That's due to heat, also the female ovums don't live in your lap, l2anatomy.

Its true that the heat also affects sperm production but a recent research showed that this affect is much less than that caused by using a laptop on your lap with wifi connection since 25% of the sperm stop locomotion and 9% of sperm suffer DNA damage...

[GER_T4IGA]

It's a radio wave. What do you expect. Radios haven't killed anyone yet.

Have you ever heard of somebody killed by air pollution? -No.

This a statistical effect and nothing you would be able to prove in the aftermath of someone's death. The radiation is "gone" as soon as it hits something and not really provable afterwards( other than directly afterwards).

However you can statistically bind radiation and death rate in some way and make up a ratio of people killed by radio atop on average( do not ask any further how this it works. Idk. I just know roughly how it works).

[xiaolongstan]

Its true that the heat also affects sperm production but a recent research showed that this affect is much less than that caused by using a laptop on your lap with wifi connection since 25% of the sperm stop locomotion and 9% of sperm suffer DNA damage...

I'm going to need a source on this. If  it was due to Wi-Fi a cordless phone or microwave would have the same effect since they are all 2.4 GHz radio waves.

[Godlygamer23]

I'm going to need a source on this. If  it was due to Wi-Fi a cordless phone or microwave would have the same effect since they are all 2.4 GHz radio waves.

Microwave and microwave ovens do not use radio waves. Microwave ovens utilize the microwave electromagnetic radiation spectrum. Radio is another part of the spectrum entirely.

 

[Wardaddy]

I'm going to need a source on this. If  it was due to Wi-Fi a cordless phone or microwave would have the same effect since they are all 2.4 GHz radio waves

Here's the source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2067515/Using-Wi-Fi-laptop-damages-sperm-reduce-activity-study-finds.html

[Bajantechnician]

It fits within the FCC's requirements for safety.

we all know the FCC is run by the illuminati

[xiaolongstan]

Here's the source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2067515/Using-Wi-Fi-laptop-damages-sperm-reduce-activity-study-finds.html

 

29 men

That's easily within a margin of error. 29 people is hardly scientific, maybe the men who got selected to use Wi-Fi had more heat sensitive sperm.

[bloader]

I know that its not a ionizing radiation but wifi was boomed in the mid 2000s and we still don't know what the long term effects are.....

and i sleep right next to the router every night :mellow:

 

so it wifi 100% safe??

ye i ate like 5 wifi's and threw up

[GoldSrc]

How much has the wifi usage increased since the 2000's?, a lot, right?

Now, you would expect a rise in the cases of cancer right?, do we see that?, nope.

[thorpj]

I know that its not a ionizing radiation but wifi was boomed in the mid 2000s and we still don't know what the long term effects are.....

and i sleep right next to the router every night :mellow:

 

so it wifi 100% safe??

Wifi transmits via microwave waves, or at least, it sits around there on the electromagnetic spectrum

 

Anything right of visible light is dangerous (because it has enough energy to ionise). Radio and Microwave waves sit to the left. Our current scientific theory says no. Wi-fi is not dangerous

 

If radio waves were dangerous it wouldn't matter, because light would kill us first.

 

ARRGH MY EYES.

[soup]

Here's the source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2067515/Using-Wi-Fi-laptop-damages-sperm-reduce-activity-study-finds.html

 

Wow someone who actually believes the 'studies' from 'the daily heil'.  By the way according to 'the daily heil" EVERYTHING gives you cancer.

[ShadowCaptain]

This is 100% True: Wifi cooks your brain, it turns it into noodles, and when you die, the noodle goblin comes and eats your brain noodles

[Coaxialgamer]

well right now there is no documented case of illness or death due to wifi radiation.

Some pepole say it is harmful.

however i think that since wifi is not an ionizing wave (unlike microwaves) , you should be fine.

 

But only time will tell.

[iamdarkyoshi]

Its true that the heat also affects sperm production but a recent research showed that this affect is much less than that caused by using a laptop on your lap with wifi connection since 25% of the sperm stop locomotion and 9% of sperm suffer DNA damage...

I still have no issues producing.

[iamdarkyoshi]

Wow someone who actually believes the 'studies' from 'the daily heil'.  By the way according to 'the daily heil" EVERYTHING gives you cancer.

My mom thinks the same thing. "do not microwave that egg in that plastic microwave safe egg cooker, it is made of plastic and will give you cancer"

 

So I make fun of her for that. The chairs at out kitchen table have a sticker on the bottom that say they can cause cancer. No joke.