6700K vs 5820K ... Again :(

[ryanmmax]

Iv read 100 posts for and against everything but if all things being equal, would you rather have a 6700K/Z170 or a 5820k/x99 for the next 5 years??

 

 

I am coming from a Phenom 4x 955BE, so everything from DDR2, PCIE2, SATA2, and USB2 will be going up a notch or 2.  I plan on keeping the build for the next 5-6 years (Unless something BIG changes).  As a Mechanical engineer I do some CAD work, Lightroom, and of coarse gaming.  I currently have an R9-290 which i bought 6 months ago for $200 when my old GPU blower died so I wont be getting a new GPU for 2-3 years. I have a Micro-center close by so the 6700K and 5820K are about the same price all things considered... 

 

I am not looking at the 6600k, I would sooner pay the premium and move to the 5830K then drop down and wonder if i should have gotten more...

I am not looking at 4790k/4690K because I do want the 20 PCIE lanes and USB 3.1....  I plan on getting a NVME in the future and maybe cross-firing if I get the 1440 34"ultra wide.

I am not looking at the 5830K...  unless someone can convince me that I would see any difference I have no intention of 3/4 crossfire

 

So i am left with 6700K and 5820K,   I will be OC'ing both and expanding both over the next few years.   The 6700K has better single thread performance, but will I even perceive the difference in a single thread app? The 5820K has more cores, but how many programs can utilize them?   Im kinda leaning twords the 5820K, because maybe the cores will be more leverage-able in the future???? 

 

 

So as far as I am now, I dont care... or see a difference 

[i_build_nanosuits]

5820K as far as i'm concerned.

[007agentHP]

5820k

[Darth-Marius]

professional programs will like the extra cores

[The Official Czex]

Iv read 100 posts for and against everything but if all things being equal, would you rather have a 6700K/Z170 or a 5820k/x99 for the next 5 years??

 

 

I am coming from a Phenom 4x 955BE, so everything from DDR2, PCIE2, SATA2, and USB2 will be going up a notch or 2.  I plan on keeping the build for the next 5-6 years (Unless something BIG changes).  As a Mechanical engineer I do some CAD work, Lightroom, and of coarse gaming.  I currently have an R9-290 which i bought 6 months ago for $200 when my old GPU blower died so I wont be getting a new GPU for 2-3 years. I have a Micro-center close by so the 6700K and 5820K are about the same price all things considered... 

 

I am not looking at the 6600k, I would sooner pay the premium and move to the 5830K then drop down and wonder if i should have gotten more...

I am not looking at 4790k/4690K because I do want the 20 PCIE lanes and USB 3.1....  I plan on getting a NVME in the future and maybe cross-firing if I get the 1440 34"ultra wide.

I am not looking at the 5830K...  unless someone can convince me that I would see any difference I have no intention of 3/4 crossfire

 

So i am left with 6700K and 5820K,   I will be OC'ing both and expanding both over the next few years.   The 6700K has better single thread performance, but will I even perceive the difference in a single thread app? The 5820K has more cores, but how many programs can utilize them?   Im kinda leaning twords the 5820K, because maybe the cores will be more leverage-able in the future???? 

 

 

So as far as I am now, I dont care... or see a difference 

 

6700K for just gaming.

 

5820K for rendering and heavy multitasking.

 

EDIT: Hint, hint... 4790Ks are much cheaper than both and provides equal performance to the 6700K...

 

EDIT: EDIT: DDR4 RAM is very expensive compared to DDR3.

[FuzzyYellow]

bruh, just get the 4790k and get a better GPU.

[manikyath]

unlike most people mindlessly saying whatever, i'm gonna give some info, and let you decide yourself:

 

X99 will be better if you're an SLI boy.

 

X99 will outperform Z170 in highly threaded workloads. (rendering, zip archives, etc.)

Z170 will laugh in X99's face in strictly single threaded applications. (minecraft, FSX, horribly coded games)

in 4-thread applications they are mixed, the source i currently use gives the 6700k an advantage, some people claim otherwise.

 

Z170 is also less energy consuming, as well as newer parts with newer motherboards generally supporting newer standards better (like nvme).

[AresKrieger]

bruh, just get the 4790k and get a better GPU.

Same

[FuzzyYellow]

unlike most people mindlessly saying whatever, i'm gonna give some info, and let you decide yourself:

 

X99 will be better if you're an SLI boy.

 

X99 will outperform Z170 in highly threaded workloads. (rendering, zip archives, etc.)

Z170 will laugh in X99's face in strictly single threaded applications. (minecraft, FSX, horribly coded games)

in 4-thread applications they are mixed, the source i currently use gives the 6700k an advantage, some people claim otherwise.

 

Z170 is also less energy consuming, as well as newer parts with newer motherboards generally supporting newer standards better (like nvme).

actually, minecraft is multithreaded now. it has been for over a year.

[byalexandr]

Which is a bigger number? Six? Or four? The 5820k has SIX cores. Obviously it's better.

[Aytex]

Iv read 100 posts for and against everything but if all things being equal, would you rather have a 6700K/Z170 or a 5820k/x99 for the next 5 years??

 

 

I am coming from a Phenom 4x 955BE, so everything from DDR2, PCIE2, SATA2, and USB2 will be going up a notch or 2.  I plan on keeping the build for the next 5-6 years (Unless something BIG changes).  As a Mechanical engineer I do some CAD work, Lightroom, and of coarse gaming.  I currently have an R9-290 which i bought 6 months ago for $200 when my old GPU blower died so I wont be getting a new GPU for 2-3 years. I have a Micro-center close by so the 6700K and 5820K are about the same price all things considered... 

 

I am not looking at the 6600k, I would sooner pay the premium and move to the 5830K then drop down and wonder if i should have gotten more...

I am not looking at 4790k/4690K because I do want the 20 PCIE lanes and USB 3.1....  I plan on getting a NVME in the future and maybe cross-firing if I get the 1440 34"ultra wide.

I am not looking at the 5830K...  unless someone can convince me that I would see any difference I have no intention of 3/4 crossfire

 

So i am left with 6700K and 5820K,   I will be OC'ing both and expanding both over the next few years.   The 6700K has better single thread performance, but will I even perceive the difference in a single thread app? The 5820K has more cores, but how many programs can utilize them?   Im kinda leaning twords the 5820K, because maybe the cores will be more leverage-able in the future???? 

 

 

So as far as I am now, I dont care... or see a difference 

5820k hands down, since your doing cad/rendering and shit

[Midnitewarrior4]

if your using cad wont that like more cores ?

[Midnitewarrior4]

Which is a bigger number? Six? Or four? The 5820k has SIX cores. Obviously it's better.

wow i wanna leave now, thats like saying a 4690k vs fx-6300 saying ooo look 4 vs 6 so the 6300 is better  or saying fx 8350 vs 5930k oooh 8 vs 6 obviously the fx 8350

[byalexandr]

wow i wanna leave now, thats like saying a 4690k vs fx-6300 saying ooo look 4 vs 6 so the 6300 is better  or saying fx 8350 vs 5930k oooh 8 vs 6 obviously the fx 8350

No no no, not the same thing. The 5820K's cores are more or less the same per core as the 4790K. Don't assume I brought AMD into this thing, AMD is garbage by now.

[manikyath]

actually, minecraft is multithreaded now. it has been for over a year.

trust me, its not even nearly as good as you think...

 

certainly when you dive into modded... everything gametick is one thread...

and the rendering part could be a tad better optimized as well...

[manikyath]

AMD is garbage by now.

amd isnt really "garbage"

FX just is...

 

i see amd as either a budget solution, or as a toy.

[Midnitewarrior4]

No no no, not the same thing. The 5820K's cores are more or less the same per core as the 4790K. Don't assume I brought AMD into this thing, AMD is garbage by now.

i never said you said amd i was simply making a point, all you said was "Which is a bigger number? Six? Or four? The 5820k has SIX cores. Obviously it's better." so therefore your logic would imply that a fx 8350 would be better then a 5930k simply because it has 8 cores vs 6 cores so its obviously better

edit: not trying to start a fight just pointing out that your caparison is flawed

[byalexandr]

i never said you said amd i was simply making a point, all you said was "Which is a bigger number? Six? Or four? The 5820k has SIX cores. Obviously it's better." so therefore your logic would imply that a fx 8350 would be better then a 5930k simply because it has 8 cores vs 6 cores so its obviously better

edit: not trying to start a fight just pointing out that your caparison is flawed

Well you have to account for the per core power. I was keeping that in mind, should've typed that out too.

[ryanmmax]

 

bruh, just get the 4790k and get a better GPU.

 

Same

 

Pretty sure I explicitly said I will not be getting a new GPU in the near future....  

 

What I should have said is that I feel that people skimping on a CPU to put twords a GPU are foolish.  CPU's are slowly increasing in performance and hold value and GPU's drasticly increase in performance and lose value...  Investing in a top of the line GPU is silly financially.  

 

 

EX:  

In 2011 a 2600K was an awesome CPU for $300.  Can be OC to hang with just about any modern CPU still worth say $200+

In 2011 a GTX 590 was an awesome GPU for 800$  Out performed by a $150 R7 370

[ryanmmax]

 

actually, minecraft is multithreaded now. it has been for over a year.

 

trust me, its not even nearly as good as you think...

 

certainly when you dive into modded... everything gametick is one thread...

and the rendering part could be a tad better optimized as well...

Ok, This is my point...  seriously?  who cares about 500 vs 510 FPS its minecraft?

 

 I cant imagine that any single threaded programs wouldn't be destroyed by either of these CPU's

On the other hand I could see multi threaded programs benefiting from extra cores.... 

 

Does anyone have any sort of real world experience with both cores?  Am I getting caught up in imperceptible differences? 

[NumLock21]

Price difference between both aren't that much when both runs on DDR4. Get the 5820K the extra cores will benefit in the long run.