Will my CPU bottleneck my GPU

[Dabombinable]

get the 390 dont settle for a lesser gpu..the 8350 will not bottleneck it in 80% of games and the ones it will, will still have very good performance. dont listen to haters 8350 is not that bad of a cpu..and dx12 is going to make alot of people feel dumb for saying it is.

It will bottleneck it in all games below 4K

[babadoctor]

He would see increases from any i3 but it wouldn't be a huge bottleneck.

 

 

Waiting for the deluge of posts saying the FX is bad and to get an i3. Surprised there hasn't been more yet...

FX IS BAD

GET AN I3

[i_build_nanosuits]

This is my somewhat lentghty post to this guy on PM on AMD FX-8350 vs i5-4690K performance in games if you're interested to read about it, if you can find a SINGLE reputable gaming benchmark in which the FX-8350 perform noticeably BETTER than the i5 please feel free to link it as i will use it in every further recommendation i make in this forum and i will mention: ''if you're an heavy ''insert game name here'' player, the FX MIGHT be a better option for you'' and if you want i can link thousands of gaming benchmarks in which the i5-4690K outperformed the AMD FX.

it's because i owned an FX-8320 overclocked to 4.5ghz and i know what they can and cannot do.
when you owned both you have a better understanding of these things, the FX can do well in some games but can be quite bad in many others as well...in that regard the i5-4690K is indeed a very nice upgrade to the FX-8350 from AMD, especially if you are building a gaming rig. There's a reason why the FX-8320 for example (same as FX-8350 BTW, save the money if you end up going AMD) is only 120$ or something, it's because in MANY games it just plain sucks.

If you need help with part selections you can tell me where to shop for you and i'll suggest what i think would be best for you.
In the end you need an expensive board to overclock AM3+ 8 ''cores'' CPU's and good cooling, not really an issue on intel's side so when all things considered the i5 is not that much more expensive and perform better across the board, on a modern socket with better features and support, and more energy efficient as well (the FX once overclocked is a darn hot chip and will heat up your gaming room in no time flat, even on winter (no kiddin)).

To illustrate my point on performance, here is a game in which my FX let me down, dying light...came out not that long ago (AWESOME game BTW, get it if you havent yet) here how it run on FX CPU's, this poor guy is clueless as to why he only gets 40FPS at 65% GPU load at times:

Here the same game running on MY system which feature and GTX 780 GPU which is weaker than a GTX970, look at how this perform:

This just goes to show how far a better CPU can lead your performance in some of those CPU demanding games out there, this game ran at 70FPS+ across the board on my system, with very high detail settings. and in case you wonder, disabling hyper-threading has mostly no effects in games.
So the i5-4690K at equal clock speed is just as good as my i7 when it comes to playing modern video games, a very good choice for gaming rigs.
The i5-6600K offer better performance but can cost quite a bit more especialy if you can find good deals on Z97.

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

It will bottleneck it in all games below 4K

nope. 290x was a good pair with 8350 and 390 losses to a 290x in fact after driver 15.7 290x and 390x are the same thing clock for clock. if it did a good job with 290x (which it did) it will do good wiith 390. sure it could do better, but it will hold them off until they can upgrade. it will play every game out there,just not as good as others

[themaniac]

In what world does an FX chip not bottleneck a 390? >.<

the world of 4k is where

[themaniac]

nope. 290x was a good pair with 8350 and 390 losses to a 290x in fact after driver 15.7 290x and 390x are the same thing clock for clock. if it did a good job with 290x (which it did) it will do good wiith 390. sure it could do better, but it will hold them off until they can upgrade. it will play every game out there,just not as good as others

what are you on? the 390 out performs the 290x and the 390x out performs it even more

[Orion3234]

I know that bottle necking is a very overused term but my GPU and my CPU are very different in price brackets so I was just wondering if there would be any issues. 

 

GPU MSI Radeon R9 390

 

CPU AMD FX-8350 Black Series

 

If you think it will what do you suggest instead

I honestly think you'll be fine with that CPU.

[Dabombinable]

nope. 290x was a good pair with 8350 and 390 losses to a 290x in fact after driver 15.7 290x and 390x are the same thing clock for clock. if it did a good job with 290x (which it did) it will do good wiith 390. sure it could do better, but it will hold them off until they can upgrade. it will play every game out there,just not as good as others

You've never even touched an FX 8350 have you?

[i_build_nanosuits]

You've never even touched an FX 8350 have you?

he had one, it's just that he maybe havnt played hitman: absolution, or dying light or watchodgs or any of the assassin's creed games or any MMORPG's or RTS or anything really CPU demanding maybe?

 

anyways, it's a proven fact by thousands and thousands of gaming benchmarks across the web that the intel haswell core i5 perform noticeably better when it comes to gaming across the board, both in terms of average FPS, minimum FPS and frametime variances (smootness of animations) and it's also more efficient, on a more modern socket with better features and upgreadability, and this user can afford it so it's a no brainer.

 

no point in getting an inferior CPU, it might get better under DX12 but it will certainly not match the intel i5 let alone performing noticeably better.

[Hiebly]

Depends on the game. You'll definitely see some bottlenecking in more demanding titles and ones that aren't well multithreaded.

[Litargirio]

Not trying to hate on AMD but their processors are plain crap.

 

They are not. AMD makes very good CPUs. It's just that they can't run games. But that's about the only thing they can't run.

[Hiebly]

They are not. AMD makes very good CPUs. It's just that they can't run games. But that's about the only thing they can't run.

They are technically inferior by quite a large margin... AMD just loads the CPUs up with lots of (bad) cores and charges less than the Intel X core equivalent because they don't really have other options.

[ybriK]

It shouldn't completely bottleneck it in most titles, however for CPU intensive titles such as GTA V, Civ and ARMA then you'll notice some utilization drops. It really depends on the game you're playing and the resolution. If you have a lot of money to shit out feel free to get a brand new 4690K, 4770K or used 3570k, 3770K.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page5.html

[Khajiit Dealer]

They are not. AMD makes very good CPUs. It's just that they can't run games. But that's about the only thing they can't run.

This thread is about Gaming, not other tasks.

[Litargirio]

This thread is about Gaming, not other tasks.

 

You said that their processors are plain crap, which is false.

 

They're good processors that are unsuitable for gaming.

 

Calling something plain crap implies that it is completely useless, not useless for a specific task.

[Nena Trinity]

90% of the time good some games uses like 1-core...

[i_build_nanosuits]

90% of the time good some games uses like 1-core...

if only this could prove to be true...from my experience it's more like 65% of the time it's ''fine'' but never really ''perfect'' and in the 35% missing, about 60% of it is pure garbage.

You just don't game enough you spend too much time in here.

[Nena Trinity]

if only this could prove to be true...from my experience it's more like 65% of the time it's ''fine'' but never really ''perfect'' and in the 35% missing, about 60% of it is pure garbage.

You just don't game enough you spend too much time in here.

No game I play get to low FPS except for World of Tanks which I no longer play and well Saints Row 2 had some issues(still playable) but hey that game is kinda know for being broken and the follow up games all run better! (74 games in Steam and I got like 20+ more that is not on Steam so you were saying?)

 

And no FREE TO PLAYS WAS NOT INCLUDED!

[i_build_nanosuits]

No game I play get to low FPS except for World of Tanks which I no longer play and well Saints Row 2 had some issues(still playable) but hey that game is kinda know for being broken and the follow up games all run better! (74 games in Steam and I got like 20+ more that is not on Steam so you were saying?)

 

And no FREE TO PLAYS WAS NOT INCLUDED!

own any of these titles?

-Hitman:absolution

-any of the Assassin's creed game

-dying light

-watchdogs

-Arma 3

-Planetside 2

-DayZ

-H1Z1

-ARMA 3

-anything from Blizzard entertainment

etc...there's too much i know i'm forgetting a lot of games i had a hard time with...a quick and dirty google search will answer the question:

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=games+that+run+bad+on+FX

And yes before you mention it these games ARE badly optimised games...yes they ''SHOULD'' run better, but it is what it is and this guy is building a new rig from scratch and want something that can play ANYTHING well...not only the best optimised titles out there...ALL of them.

anyways it's fine he had a 1500$ budget for his gaming PC including peripherals and i made a rig for him featuring the i5-4690K on a Z97 motherboard with an R9 390 GPU. he's good.

[Nena Trinity]

own any of these titles?

-Hitman:absolution

-any of the Assassin's creed game

-dying light

-watchdogs

-Arma 3

-Planetside 2

-DayZ

-H1Z1

-ARMA 3

-anything from Blizzard entertainment

etc...there's too much i know i'm forgetting a lot of games i had a hard time with...a quick and dirty google search will answer the question:

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=games+that+run+bad+on+FX

And yes before you mention it these games ARE badly optimised games...yes they ''SHOULD'' run better, but it is what it is and this guy is building a new rig from scratch and want something that can play ANYTHING well...not only the best optimised titles out there...ALL of them.

DayZ, H1Z1, Planetside 2, Warcraft 3 and the WoW.

 

All runs well but I have not tested DayZ since I played it on my Acer laptop with P7550 + Nvidia 130M days so... (also its dead no players...)

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2347&cmp[]=970

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-P7550-vs-AMD-FX-8370/m3099vs2983

[Dabombinable]

DayZ, H1Z1, Planetside 2, Warcraft 3 and the WoW.

 

All runs well but I have not tested DayZ since I played it on my Acer laptop with P7550 + Nvidia 130M days so... (also its dead no players...)

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2347&cmp[]=970

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-P7550-vs-AMD-FX-8370/m3099vs2983

:rolleyes: Don't you understand the difference between some games and all of them?

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

what are you on? the 390 out performs the 290x and the 390x out performs it even more

i said clock for clock. the 390 is pretty much a overclocked 290,the 390x is a overclocked 290x. after driver 15.7 the tessalation difference was equaled and they are the exact same when clock speed is matched. this has been proven many times.

 

it's like saying the fx 8350 is faster than the 8320..yes it is but match the clock speeds its the same thing

 

[Nena Trinity]

:rolleyes: Don't you understand the difference between some games and all of them?

He asked if I had "any" not "all" are you blind or trying to piss me off?

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

also dont buy fx 8350 if you're buying new its a silly thing to do..if you already own one it can hold you off until you get a new one..im not saying settle...in pc world you never can settle anyways