Just had an idea, let me know what you guys think about it

[Xtreme Gamer]

So I had an idea about a couple days ago, but have no way of starting it (materials/know-how/time). My idea was: In order to either minimize or eliminate the hassle of cable management (or any other reason someone might not like routing cables inside a PC). What if either all or most of the parts inside a computer that needs a power/data cable plugging into it and the motherboard. What if those parts had some kind wireless tech built onto it. No, not Bluetooth or WiFi. I mean something that will transmit data (and power IF possible) on a frequency band much much higher than 5GHz. And implement (if the parts are getting bad performance due to competing for air time) something on the radio sender/receiver to minimize the wireless lag. Or set each part at its own high frequency band. It would make PC building cable routing easier to deal with, as well as make the inside look MUCH cleaner. So tell me guys, what do you think (without sarcastic remarks)?

 

Thanks for reading this!!!!

[Guest]

no. bad idea.

 

a lot of people don't realize, but when you get higher frequencies, you get much more latency.

[Virtual01]

Personally that seems like an unnecessary workaround for something that isn't a huge problem.

[W-L]

-SNIP-

 

Such devices do exist for pacemakers and the sort using wireless charging or power delivery but most if not all of them are low powered devices not hundreds of watts of power needed for a GPU as an example. 

[Deletive]

It's so much easier to just use cables for Power transfer. 

[EliasNM]

I rather deal with cables for a more solid connection. It's not a huge deal and troubleshooting in my eyes is much easier.

[Xtreme Gamer]

It's so much easier to just use cables for Power transfer. 

 

Thats why I said "IF possible" for the power part.

[LogicalDrm]

Power part isn't a thing yet. You have wireless charging but as you may know, charger needs to be under 1cm from receiver to get something done. No way that works for high power stuff like CPU/mobo or GPU.

 

Wireless data isn't really a thing yet either. If you have done any transfer with bluetooth or wifi between two devices, you notice how slow it is compared to network cable or even USB. And those are really slow compared to PCI/e and SATA.

[FluffiestPond]

I can see that causing way more problems then there already are.... We already have solutions for cables... It's called a 750D and cable ties.. 

[AlwaysFSX]

Fuck yeah, interference! You thought your sound card was shit before? Just wait until this gets implemented. Lead shielding for everything!

[Z71]

If you remove the cables you will remove half of the creativity done in building a PC 

[dannytech357]

While minimizing cable management is a good idea, this probably isn't the way to do it. For instance, people that have two PCs next to each other would experience problems, and high frequencies create more latency. For something like external drive to computer connections this could be a good idea, as reaching around the computer to plug it in can be a pain.

[Stefan1024]

So I had an idea about a couple days ago, but have no way of starting it (materials/know-how/time). My idea was: In order to either minimize or eliminate the hassle of cable management (or any other reason someone might not like routing cables inside a PC). What if either all or most of the parts inside a computer that needs a power/data cable plugging into it and the motherboard. What if those parts had some kind wireless tech built onto it. No, not Bluetooth or WiFi. I mean something that will transmit data (and power IF possible) on a frequency band much much higher than 5GHz. And implement (if the parts are getting bad performance due to competing for air time) something on the radio sender/receiver to minimize the wireless lag. Or set each part at its own high frequency band. It would make PC building cable routing easier to deal with, as well as make the inside look MUCH cleaner. So tell me guys, what do you think (without sarcastic remarks)?

 

Thanks for reading this!!!!

Well the new wireless standart 802.11ad uses a carrier of 60GHz and has a data rate of ~10GBit/s. If is cutting edge for (consumer) wireless performance and ther will be products to buy soon as far as I know. However even this data rate is just enougth for one or two SSDs, not more. Also this will have more latency than a cable.

 

Power on the other hand is nearly impossible at the scale you are looking at. For a decent distance you will loose >90% of the power, probably even 99%.

 

If a cable can be used, it it still the much better option for short and even long distances.

[roastduck]

Well, then at least people wouldn't need to buy microwave ovens, anymore. Just stick your cup of noodles in your PC case!

[othertomperson]

Christ the inside of a PC case is electrically noisy enough as it is without a tonne of inductive power and EM data transmission.

[GoldSrc]

Wireless transmission of power is extremely inefficient, so yeah, bad idea.

For data, light would be a better idea.

[TetraSky]

Well for components in the PC, it would be better if the motherboards were made to actually output all necessary power to every components, without having to connect secondary 6+2 pin connectors to a graphic card, molex or SATA power cables.

It would make builds a lot cleaner, as there would essentially be only 1 cable coming from the PSU to the motherboard. (And HDD/SSD could be powered off a single cable coming out of the motherboard)

Sure wireless everything seems attractive, but that's just adding extra latency for no reason.

[Trik'Stari]

Wireless power transmission is indeed possible, however it would create interference issues, and be inefficient.

[DarkBlade2117]

Cables can look sexy if you know what you are doing.

[soulreaper]

I enjoy cable management I spent at least 2 hours on mine.

[GoldSrc]

Well for components in the PC, it would be better if the motherboards were made to actually output all necessary power to every components, without having to connect secondary 6+2 pin connectors to a graphic card, molex or SATA power cables.

It would make builds a lot cleaner, as there would essentially be only 1 cable coming from the PSU to the motherboard. (And HDD/SSD could be powered off a single cable coming out of the motherboard)

Sure wireless everything seems attractive, but that's just adding extra latency for no reason.

 

That wouldn't be a good idea either, a wire can handle a lot more current than the traces you could include in a motherboard.

Just look at the PCI express standard, it can only what, 75W?, if you want to handle more power that would require thicker traces and I don't think there would be enough space for that, not to mention the heat that it would need to dissipate with 200+W video cards or other multi-gpu configurations.

[TetraSky]

That wouldn't be a good idea either, a wire can handle a lot more current than the traces you could include in a motherboard.

Just look at the PCI express standard, it can only what, 75W?, if you want to handle more power that would require thicker traces and I don't think there would be enough space for that, not to mention the heat that it would need to dissipate with 200+W video cards or other multi-gpu configurations.

That's why I said

"it would be better if the motherboards were made to"

They could make motherboard "bulkier" so that they can have actual cables running "underneath" instead of mere traces.

It would need to be a complete re-imagining of the computer as we know it today, but it's probably do-able. Then again, it would also create many more possible point of failures.

[GoldSrc]

That's why I said

"it would be better if the motherboards were made to"

They could make motherboard "bulkier" so that they can have actual cables running "underneath" instead of mere traces.

It would need to be a complete re-imagining of the computer as we know it today, but it's probably do-able. Then again, it would also create many more possible point of failures.

It could be done, but I don't see that happening soon.

[LuX_]

or just make an all in one motherboard so it has the power supply built into it and runs the power for the GPU through the PCI slot 

[cluelessgenius]

well im onboard with wireless power but i still think this is a bad idea not everything need to be wireless.

 

i think something like a coffe table that charges your phone when you lay it down is definitly cool but that has still something to do with making contact fulll wireless power is to much i think i cant stand the amount of frequencies used as it is i dont need more radiowaves all over the place