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Were you using a VGA connector 

An adapter to be precise.I tried more dvi adapters, cable, tv/ monitors anyhing you can name it and it doesn't work.The hami works fine but that is not a solution.

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My problem with AMD gpus is they draw a shit ton of power.

like a lightbulb more then Nvidia does...

 

put a normal ceiling lamp on while using a Nvidia system, and it draws as much power as a AMD system would without the light.... Such massive drain. Such terror....

 

 

here is a power saving fact for you:

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An adapter to be precise.I tried more dvi adapters, cable, tv/ monitors anyhing you can name it and it doesn't work.The hami works fine but that is not a solution.

don't use adapters. simple as that. probably a broken adapter/cable - that usually causes such issues.

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An adapter to be precise.I tried more dvi adapters, cable, tv/ monitors anyhing you can name it and it doesn't work.The hami works fine but that is not a solution.

ok look I use a 280X with a dvi to vga Adapter and the lines across appear aswell but they dont appear on my second monitor that is using just a DVI connector, and my works works fine so its the adapters 

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It's literally impossible. Unless you are water cooling and/or LN2 to the extreme then 1.8V 1200W is impossible. Flat out impossible.

If your card attempts to draw 1200W over 3 8-pin connectors it will force the PSU to shut down because OPP (over power protection) would kick in.

 

 

 

No they can put out alot more then that, i.e. extreme overclockers with the 980ti K|NGP|N needing a 1300W PSU for the card alone as its been known to draw up to 1200w at 1.8v on core.

 

Hello, welcome to reading posts properly friend. Not once in that post did I talk about my lighting drawing that power.

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don't use adapters. simple as that. probably a broken adapter/cable - that usually causes such issues.

my MiniDP to HDMI adapter broke once... had a black line (2px wide) across my screen... changed adapters, worked perfectly again...

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don't use adapters. simple as that. probably a broken adapter/cable - that usually causes such issues.

I tried a lot of cable and adapters...where is the chance?

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It's literally impossible. Unless you are water cooling and/or LN2 to the extreme then 1.8V 1200W is impossible. Flat out impossible.

If your card attempts to draw 1200W over 3 8-pin connectors it will force the PSU to shut down because OPP (over power protection) would kick in.

nope. A lot of cheaper PSUs or older ones doesnt have the protective mechanisms to cut off...

 

i had an old generic piece of shit, 650w PSU... i was running dual OCd 7950s + OCd FX 8320 for a couple of weeks...

Transformers can easily go 200-300% over rated spec for quite a long time, aslong as they are cooled properly... now i have my PC under the window, so when you open the window during winter and -12C cold air is sucked into the PC, then yes, the PSU could tolerate being abused like that....

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I tried a lot of cable and adapters...where is the chance?

Broken monitor input?

 

 

 

 

Hello, welcome to reading posts properly friend. Not once in that post did I talk about my lighting drawing that power.

 

Hello, welcome to not spouting out wrong information. Even when using LN2 you still cannot bypass the safety features in PSUs, Motherboards and GPUs themselves. ATX specifications exist for a reason - to present people with accurate information. The max power draw 3 8-pins and the PCIe slot can deliver is 525W. end of story.

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Umm...

The odds of getting two different cards experiencing the same exact issue are astronomical.

Seems to me that you're probably making this whole thing up or something else in your setup is the culprit. Since you mention having tried the cards in other systems and gotten the same issues...

 

Probabilities, a scientific term, which does not mean that is is impossible... Just improbable.

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Broken monitor input?

 

Hello, welcome to not spouting out wrong information. Even when using LN2 you still cannot bypass the safety features in PSUs, Motherboards and GPUs themselves. ATX specifications exist for a reason - to present people with accurate information. The max power draw 3 8-pins and the PCIe slot can deliver is 525W. end of story.

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3820

Argue with them then 

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Umm...

The odds of getting two different cards experiencing the same exact issue are astronomical.

Seems to me that you're probably making this whole thing up or something else in your setup is the culprit. Since you mention having tried the cards in other systems and gotten the same issues... Then the former is far more likely.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to help you because, well, you're probably lying.

Probabilities, a scientific term, which does not mean that is is impossible... Just improbable.

Yes, i am lying about wasting over 1 month waiting for replacements after the gpu's were tested in service and they approved my request.Why would i lie about this?I have no reason to, i am just pissed at my luck

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Since when is 1250mhz on an AMD GPU anywhere near 1.8v and 1800mhz+ on a 980 Ti, FYI the 980Ti draws roughly the same as your GPU.

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Wait... You used an adapter?

DVI-D dual link ports on your radeon cards dude. A DVI to VGA won't work. You'd need an active DVI-D to VGA adapter.

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Since when is 1250mhz on an AMD GPU anywhere near 1.8v and 1800mhz+ on a 980 Ti, FYI the 980Ti draws roughly the same as your GPU.

...JFC did you not read? I was benching 1300MHz+ at 1.45v on my Lighting I never even said it drew the same power as the 980ti 

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Broken monitor input?

 

Hello, welcome to not spouting out wrong information. Even when using LN2 you still cannot bypass the safety features in PSUs, Motherboards and GPUs themselves. ATX specifications exist for a reason - to present people with accurate information. The max power draw 3 8-pins and the PCIe slot can deliver is 525W. end of story.

nope.

 

The ATX specification you are referring to, the limitation of 20amp pr rail/8pin was REVISED AND REMOVED IN MARCH 2007. Since 2007, it has been up to each individual PSU maker to abide by this limitation or not. the 20amp limit is these days just a guideline, NOT THE RULE.

 

The 8pin connectors are RATED for 150w, but their theoretical maximum is 296w....

 

3x 8Pin + PCIe has a combined maximum delivery of nearly 960w. Alot of PSUs has one massive rail over multiple smaller 20amp rails. So being able to actually hit the theoretical maximum is NOT unreasonable...

 

I generally find that you have good arguments man, but honestly, read up on this.

Also, electrotechnical calculations (the stuff we use to rate cables IRL can, and will prove that a normal 8pin will handle that power drain)....

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I understand your frustrations but posts like these end up serving as reference points during flame wars.

Purchase an active DVI-D to VGA adapter and all will be well.

 

PS. is your card the DirectCU II variant with two DVI ports?

 

If so, did you try both DVI ports? One of the ports should be DVI-I. Try that one with your existing adapter. If that doesn't work you'll need the active adapter I mentioned.

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Broken monitor input?

 

Hello, welcome to not spouting out wrong information. Even when using LN2 you still cannot bypass the safety features in PSUs, Motherboards and GPUs themselves. ATX specifications exist for a reason - to present people with accurate information. The max power draw 3 8-pins and the PCIe slot can deliver is 525W. end of story.

 

Your argument may be true for ancient hardware, but not anymore.

 

The thing you were talking about earlier is called over-current-protection, and only happens when you try to draw more wattage than your PSU can deliver.  IE: 1350w from a 1200w, etc.

 

Any halfway decent PSU will allow you to draw LOTS of power through single connectors.

 

Kingpin's 980 TI at 1950 mhz 1.74v hooked up to a current monitoring device was showing load wattage upwards of 1100 watts, through 2x 8 Pin and 1x 6 pin, as well as the PCI-E connector itself.

 

From his guide:

 

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3820

 

 

Running GT1 test with higher clocks&voltage, ~92A (1100W), max peak is 135A (1625W!), 1950MHz 1.74V

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Running GT2 test with same settings as above, ~77A (927W), max peak is 133A (1603W).

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All results were captured with GPU cooled to -100°C, using Tektronix TDS5034B scope and TCPA303 current probe.

 

 

 

 

About VGA's and Motherboards having safety limits:  

 

Most GPU's yes, they do have an over-current protection limit somewhere, which can easily be bypassed by soldering resistors onto the power monitoring circuits on the PCB:

 

See this guide:

 

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2539

 

 

Motherboards, depends on the model, but LOTS of boards advertise being capable of putting 800+ watts through the CPU, and they dam well can.  A 5960x doing Cinebench on Ln2 at ~5.6+ ghz @ 1.6v uses over 600w.

Der8auer has done testing and posted about it on OCN and HWBOT's forums multiple times.  (Der8auer is a professional overclocker that also sells Ln2 pots and lots of other things.)

 

 

 

nope.

 

The ATX specification you are referring to, the limitation of 20amp pr rail/8pin was REVISED AND REMOVED IN MARCH 2007. Since 2007, it has been up to each individual PSU maker to abide by this limitation or not. the 20amp limit is these days just a guideline, NOT THE RULE.

 

The 8pin connectors are RATED for 150w, but their theoretical maximum is 296w....

 

3x 8Pin + PCIe has a combined maximum delivery of nearly 960w. Alot of PSUs has one massive rail over multiple smaller 20amp rails. So being able to actually hit the theoretical maximum is NOT unreasonable...

 

I generally find that you have good arguments man, but honestly, read up on this.

Also, electrotechnical calculations (the stuff we use to rate cables IRL can, and will prove that a normal 8pin will handle that power drain)....

 

 

Agreed.  There is so much proof contradicting what he's saying it's unreal.

 

Posts all over the net with people with kill-a-watts showing their GPU power consumption through the roof with modded BIOS and added voltage.

 

Hell, one of the mods on OCN that runs the HWBOT team for overclock.net was doing Ln2 on a 4790k @ 5.7 ghz and 980 TI kingpin above 1800 mhz, he was hitting OCP on his 1200w PSU.

 

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The news is in... a 1200W PSU is not enough for a 4770K at 5.7GHz and a 980 TI KPE at anything higher than 1850/2100 @ 1.55V! I could set up to 1.60V but it would crash as soon as it went under load at 1900 core. If I tried to set 1.65V, the computer turned off immediately.

 

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Your argument may be true for ancient hardware, but not anymore.

 

The thing you were talking about earlier is called over-current-protection, and only happens when you try to draw more wattage than your PSU can deliver.  IE: 1350w from a 1200w, etc.

 

Any halfway decent PSU will allow you to draw LOTS of power through single connectors.

 

Kingpin's 980 TI at 1950 mhz 1.74v hooked up to a current monitoring device was showing load wattage upwards of 1100 watts, through 2x 8 Pin and 1x 6 pin, as well as the PCI-E connector itself.

 

From his guide:

 

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3820

 

 

Running GT1 test with higher clocks&voltage, ~92A (1100W), max peak is 135A (1625W!), 1950MHz 1.74V

12vpcie029.png

Running GT2 test with same settings as above, ~77A (927W), max peak is 133A (1603W).

12vpcie032.png

All results were captured with GPU cooled to -100°C, using Tektronix TDS5034B scope and TCPA303 current probe.

 

 

 

 

About VGA's and Motherboards having safety limits:  

 

Most GPU's yes, they do have an over-current protection limit somewhere, which can easily be bypassed by soldering resistors onto the power monitoring circuits on the PCB:

 

See this guide:

 

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2539

 

 

Motherboards, depends on the model, but LOTS of boards advertise being capable of putting 800+ watts through the CPU, and they dam well can.  A 5960x doing Cinebench on Ln2 at ~5.6+ ghz @ 1.6v uses over 600w.

Der8auer has done testing and posted about it on OCN and HWBOT's forums multiple times.  (Der8auer is a professional overclocker that also sells Ln2 pots and lots of other things.)

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.  There is so much proof contradicting what he's saying it's unreal.

 

Posts all over the net with people with kill-a-watts showing their GPU power consumption through the roof with modded BIOS and added voltage.

 

Hell, one of the mods on OCN that runs the HWBOT team for overclock.net was doing Ln2 on a 4790k @ 5.7 ghz and 980 TI kingpin above 1800 mhz, he was hitting OCP on his 1200w PSU.

 

 

Quote from him:

 

The news is in... a 1200W PSU is not enough for a 4770K at 5.7GHz and a 980 TI KPE at anything higher than 1850/2100 @ 1.55V! I could set up to 1.60V but it would crash as soon as it went under load at 1900 core. If I tried to set 1.65V, the computer turned off immediately.

 

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Not only did you go off topic but you spammed the entire thread with huge pictures. I hope the OP see's the solution I provided to him amongst this sea of Off Topic posts.

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Fun fact is... unlike alot of you, i got tools... made to measure the amps inside wires... WITHOUT BREAKING THE WIRES....

So i could, if i felt like it, measure each of the individually sleeved cables going to my R9 295x2 just to prove that they can operate WAY outside of spec and still not catch fire....

Just gotta borrow the thermo-cam from work, cuz yes, i got access to one...

 

 

But will i bother to do so, nope... why?

Because then i won't have anyone to argue with anymore.

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I would understand my system, but 3 other pc's and 1 not mine?No way

Your PSU could've killed it, making it not work in other PC's.

Unlikely if you have a good brand, but plausible.

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Your PSU could've killed it, making it not work in other PC's.

Unlikely if you have a good brand, but plausible.

I was thinking about that to be honest...and right now i don't know if i should rma it and waster another 2 weeks waiting for a new one or if i should try to solve it tweaking around

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Wow this thread is a mess....

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