"Finally, Apple’s board wakes up and tells CEO Tim Cook to speed up"

[TopWargamer]

http://venturebeat.com/2013/08/08/finally-apples-board-wakes-up-and-tells-ceo-tim-cook-to-speed-up/#DokbJg1b0P6kwOh8.99'>Source (Venture Beat)

 

The board, which includes luminaries like Al Gore, former vice-president of the United States, Bill Campbell, chairman of Intuit, Robert Iger, CEO of Disney, and MIllard Drexler of J. Crew, is concerned about Apple’s lack of recent innovation.

 

Give it to him good Apple board. 

[Cad6500]

They had innovations in the past?

[criso8]

They had innovations in the past?

Come on now. You can't say that the iphone wasn't at least for a little while.

[Cad6500]

Come on now. You can't say that the iphone wasn't at least for a little while.

ok, I'll give them that...

[LordGarth6]

Come on now. You can't say that the iphone wasn't at least for a little while.

yes and no, wasnt really there idea/concept, stolen from nokia if i remember rightly

[criso8]

yes and no, wasnt really there idea/concept, stolen from nokia if i remember rightly

Yes. They did not invent the touchscreen. That was around much before that. But no one before that put it all into a complete package in the way apple did.

[nsyedhasan]

I want to see an Apple that has good to very good performance to price ratio. 

[Flynn]

They had innovations in the past?

 

The product keynote speech (REVOLUTIONARY when it came to marketing a product and really getting people fired up)

Graphic User Interface (with the help of Xerox Parc)

Newton (Most of you probably have never heard of this, but it was innovative for it's time)

Iphone

Ipad

Itunes & Ipod

Apple 2

iMac

Mac OS X

MacBook Air

 

All these things where, at the time of their release, considered everything from innovative to genius (even if they were not necessarily the first at the time, they were the most commercially successful and socially forward).  Steve Jobs, while a complete pompous jerk who didn't care what anyone thought of him, was genius at getting people to thrive and compete their way to excellence.  He really knew how to market a product, how to get people fired up about it, and then get everyone who heard him as fired up as he was and head out to tell the world for him.  After he started the art form of a delivering a keynote speech, many companies have tried to copy him in his EXACT product release format.  Let's face it, the fact he knew how to build suspense only to wait until the very end of an unveiling to drop the biggest bomb on a press conference is truly innovative.

 

I find the technology of Apple to be innovative enough as is, even though I don't use the vast majority of it, but the way they have been able to handle a crowd and spin things in their favour is pretty impressive.

[Mcdoorknob]

There's no doubt that apple did some good things recently. For a couple of years, the iPhone was pretty much the only good phone you could get. But they didn't stay on top of that and pretty much didn't change the iPhone much at all. That let others catch up and well surpass them. But even if the idea was there before them, they were the ones who actually made a good device out of it. But in recent years, I hate apple 100%

[qwertywarrior]

look Apple

you want to take in the "Business market" etc

 

install a good file manager

let apps talk to each other

 

and have a drag and drop feature in itunes  (i used disk aid instead)

 

 

its that friggen simple

[Blade of Grass]

The product keynote speech (REVOLUTIONARY when it came to marketing a product and really getting people fired up)

Graphic User Interface (with the help of Xerox Parc)

Newton (Most of you probably have never heard of this, but it was innovative for it's time)

Iphone

Ipad

Itunes & Ipod

Apple 2

iMac

Mac OS X

MacBook Air

 

All these things where, at the time of their release, considered everything from innovative to genius (even if they were not necessarily the first at the time, they were the most commercially successful and socially forward).  Steve Jobs, while a complete pompous jerk who didn't care what anyone thought of him, was genius at getting people to thrive and compete their way to excellence.  He really knew how to market a product, how to get people fired up about it, and then get everyone who heard him as fired up as he was and head out to tell the world for him.  After he started the art form of a delivering a keynote speech, many companies have tried to copy him in his EXACT product release format.  Let's face it, the fact he knew how to build suspense only to wait until the very end of an unveiling to drop the biggest bomb on a press conference is truly innovative.

 

I find the technology of Apple to be innovative enough as is, even though I don't use the vast majority of it, but the way they have been able to handle a crowd and spin things in their favour is pretty impressive.

But Xerox had already invented the GUI, Apple just marketed it.

 

Apple hasn't really invented much, but what they have done is figure out ways to take all these great things and put them in a package and then get everyone to know about it.

[Theo]

The product keynote speech (REVOLUTIONARY when it came to marketing a product and really getting people fired up)

Graphic User Interface (with the help of Xerox Parc)

Newton (Most of you probably have never heard of this, but it was innovative for it's time)

Iphone

Ipad

Itunes & Ipod

Apple 2

iMac

Mac OS X

MacBook Air

 

All these things where, at the time of their release, considered everything from innovative to genius (even if they were not necessarily the first at the time, they were the most commercially successful and socially forward).  Steve Jobs, while a complete pompous jerk who didn't care what anyone thought of him, was genius at getting people to thrive and compete their way to excellence.  He really knew how to market a product, how to get people fired up about it, and then get everyone who heard him as fired up as he was and head out to tell the world for him.  After he started the art form of a delivering a keynote speech, many companies have tried to copy him in his EXACT product release format.  Let's face it, the fact he knew how to build suspense only to wait until the very end of an unveiling to drop the biggest bomb on a press conference is truly innovative.

 

I find the technology of Apple to be innovative enough as is, even though I don't use the vast majority of it, but the way they have been able to handle a crowd and spin things in their favour is pretty impressive.

You know things like these existed before Apple took them right? Like a tablet and all that

[Flynn]

But Xerox had already invented the GUI, Apple just marketed it.

 

Apple hasn't really invented much, but what they have done is figure out ways to take all these great things and put them in a package and then get everyone to know about it.

 

I know, that's why I put Xerox in parentheses.  Apple INNOVATED Xerox's INVENTION.

 

You know things like these existed before Apple took them right? Like a tablet and all that

 

The question was about innovation not invention.  Invention is the creation of new solutions (and that's about it) while Innovation is the application of solutions to meat new requirements, needs, or existing market demand.

 

The key of the entire article was summed up in a very distinct call of concern:  

At least, its lack of visible innovation.

Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/08/08/finally-apples-board-wakes-up-and-tells-ceo-tim-cook-to-speed-up/#zHd14ozrKJcU2pil.99 

 

So if you think about it, the source is irrelevant.  The issue is a lack of innovation not invention (which can be related, but in Apple's case it is not).

 

Steve Job's never hid the fact that he was an innovator and not an inventor.

 

It's important to the relevancy of discussion in this topic to discern the difference.

[Blade of Grass]

I know, that's why I put Xerox in parentheses.  Apple INNOVATED Xerox's INVENTION.

 

 

The question was about innovation not invention.  Invention is the creation of new solutions (and that's about it) while Innovation is the application of solutions to meat new requirements, needs, or existing market demand.

 

The key of the entire article was summed up in a very distinct call of concern:  

At least, its lack of visible innovation.

Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/08/08/finally-apples-board-wakes-up-and-tells-ceo-tim-cook-to-speed-up/#zHd14ozrKJcU2pil.99 

 

So if you think about it, the source is irrelevant.  The issue is a lack of innovation not invention (which can be related, but in Apple's case it is not).

 

Steve Job's never hid the fact that he was an innovator and not an inventor.

 

It's important to the relevancy of discussion in this topic to discern the difference.

TIL

Innovation differs from invention in that innovation refers to the use of a better and, as a result, novel idea or method, whereas invention refers more directly to the creation of the idea or method itself.

Innovation differs from improvement in that innovation refers to the notion of doing something different rather than doing the same thing better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation

[Flynn]

TIL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation

 

Basically yes, as I said but not so condensed lol.

 

BTW, I have Wikipedia in my brain.  H+ ftw

[Warcony]

No one can deny that Apple (Steve Jobs) has been a major innovator in the consumer electronics industry.

 

It is a tough call for Cook because he is under pressure to innovate but that means straying from the products designed by Jobs, something that has never happened since he was brought back to Apple years ago. 

[bcredeur97]

I cant stress this enough- im still waiting for something big, that will change the world like the smartphone did.... go pull out your old motorola razer out the drawer and see how far we have come from that.... and in just a few years..... I want to see something huge like that again!

[LordGarth6]

Yes. They did not invent the touchscreen. That was around much before that. But no one before that put it all into a complete package in the way apple did.

true, ur right there

[mymouthandi]

Well this is in now way a surprise.

 

I'm not sure Apple have been innovative, not technically at least, but they have changed the consumer electronics industry for the better in my opinion just by doing things better than the competition, for a little while at least. Not so much any more but would we have the HTC One or Galaxy S4 if not for the iPhone? Would I have my Nexus 7, which is used for multiples hours each day, if not for the iPad?

 

Of course the smartphone and tablet weren't invented by Apple but they got people excited about these types of devices.  

[Beskamir]

Yes. They did not invent the touchscreen. That was around much before that. But no one before that put it all into a complete package in the way apple did.

That's all apple is good at. Putting a bunch of things together into a nice package. I'm rather certain that's not innovation otherwise I would be innovative each time I assembled a desktop.

[criso8]

That's all apple is good at. Putting a bunch of things together into a nice package. I'm rather certain that's not innovation otherwise I would be innovative each time I assembled a desktop.

Yes they are good at putting stuff together. However the total package far exceeds the sum usefulness of its parts.

 

The first company to make the first good backlight keyboard, did they invent the light-bulb? No

 

Did google invent streaming video. No, but they put together a package ,chromecast, that was far better than anything on the market.

 

You putting a bunch of components that are designed to be put together into something that has been done exactly the same before is not innovation.

 

Now apple's branding is overboard and proclaims miracles and the company has not been innovative in the last couple of years. That is a fact, but it does not mean the company has not put together innovative products in the past even if I personally don't like any of them

[Theo]

To everyone saying Apple invented the world, please watch this:

[hehehehhehehehe]

To everyone saying Apple invented the world, please watch this:

We are not trying to argue that they "invented the world" just that they polished off other people inventions, made them something that could actually be used and then sold it to the masses in a way that no other companies had the influence to do..

[TheProfosist]

Come on now. You can't say that the iphone wasn't at least for a little while.

yes and no, wasnt really there idea/concept, stolen from nokia if i remember rightly

This is true almost everything they have ever made has been thought up by another company first. Jobs had very few trully original ideas but he did know a good idea if he saw one and knew how to adapt it and market it to the masses.

[DGPC]

Apple Innovation Cycle:

iPhone - 2007

iPad - 2010

Mac Stuff - not as big but some credit is due

 

According to that pattern, looks like we're due for a treat either this fall or never again. Que the dramatic music