Adobe - stop using ‘Photoshop’ as a generic term

[Sauron]

GIMP is better for many reasons, first of all it's free, features almost everything that photoshop has, is easy to make plugins for, is more logical to use and is libre

 

I agree, but it's that almost that could make the difference for someone making money out of it.

[minibois]

From now on I will just say "this image has been GIMPED"

[SIGSEGV]

I agree, but it's that almost that could make the difference for someone making money out of it.

Well, since that's not the difference for me, I'd rather not get cucked by Adobe

[Guest]

That's not fair to ps (I feel so evil), it DOES have features that gimp lacks or doesn't do as well - depending on what you need that may or may not concern you (for 99% of people gimp is more than fine of course).

Where there is a missing feature, there is a plugin.

[Shin-Gouki]

 

 

Stop using ‘Photoshop’ as a generic term

 

[Finn the Potato]

YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO, DAD!

 

Seriously, that is silly of them. They can't control this any more than any other name brand company can control their products being used as a verb.

"Googling"

"Youtubing"

the list goes on.

[MageTank]

"Googling"

"Youtubing"

the list goes on.

"Nerf" comes to mind for me. You know those soft foam bullets? People now use the term in gaming for when a class or weapon suddenly becomes soft. It becomes "nerfed". 

[Syntaxvgm]

 

if I can "Google" a search word then I can "Photoshop" an image

 

 

 

Agreed its like velcro, hoovers etc they are brand names but people use them as generic terms

 

"just velcro them together" etc - is a perfectly accepted piece of speech between normal people

 

 

If anything it PROMOTES photoshop 

 

You made a huge point I missed, half the reason it pisses me off is the need to sit back and enjoy this brand association, which is so rare in the world of software. 

 

We will do what we damn well please Adobe

GIMP is better for many reasons, first of all it's free, features almost everything that photoshop has, is easy to make plugins for, is more logical to use and is libre

 

The issue is that well :

"That picture looks photoshopped!"

"That picture looks Gimped!"

Which sounds right?

Gimp is better, but in the eye of the consumer, Photoshop is better because it is paid.

 

Where there is a missing feature, there is a plugin.

Look, I respect gimp. And before I did stuff to the level I do now, I used it semi-exclusively. 

It's very robust for something just available under a gpl, very impressive really. 

However, it is no replacement for photoshop. Photoshop is so much better on many levels. 

I don't like Abobe. I don't like a lot of the things they do, and I don't like most their software. But photoshop is much more capable than gimp. 

[Guest]

Look, I respect gimp. And before I did stuff to the level I do now, I used it semi-exclusively. 

It's very robust for something just available under a gpl, very impressive really. 

However, it is no replacement for photoshop. Photoshop is so much better on many levels. 

I don't like Abobe. I don't like a lot of the things they do, and I don't like most their software. But photoshop is much more capable than gimp.

I understand, each program has its pros and cons, each trading equally painful blows.

(Free VS $850 U.S. Year, FOSS vs licensing)

[Alurit]

Why do they care? Publicity.

 

Because this is a problem.. apparently.  :blink:

because the way american trademark works, if the word becomes generic they can't trademark it, and if they already did but someone infringes on it there's a chance that they might loose the case, because the word is generic. this happened with the word 'cola', the coca-cola company could not trademark the it as a brand because it has become generic.

[MattLantis]

you see them trying to stop it no?

big biznuess pay them a whole lot of $$$$

just like ms doesn't give 2 shits if you pirated windows.

the enterprise  $$$ makes most of these companies money.

Maybe it's because I just woke up, but I didn't understand this at all.

[Syntaxvgm]

I understand, each program has its pros and cons, each trading equally painful blows.

(Free VS $850 U.S. Year, FOSS vs licensing)

A lot of people bootleg photoshop for personal/non commercial use, and I have no problem with that personally. But a lot of people bootleg it and use it for commercial purposes. I'm not OK with that. 

For me it's free vs free if you aren't doing paid things. Just my opinion though. 

I'm sorta glad adobe does monthly now, more obtainable for people that want it semi-casually.

[Guest]

A lot of people bootleg photoshop for personal/non commercial use, and I have no problem with that personally. But a lot of people bootleg it and use it for commercial purposes. I'm not OK with that.

For me it's free vs free if you aren't doing paid things. Just my opinion though.

I'm sorta glad adobe does monthly now, more obtainable for people that want it semi-casually.

It is nice to know that my 1,000th post will be in a fanboy war, or in an instance that isn't civil.

Well, I get where you are coming from, but one thing: 85% of my clients run Linux on their Workstations (mostly number crunching, and edit photos, as well as encoding (not editing, just encoding)) But the issue is that Adobe doesn't support Linux anymore, let-alone for free.

[Syntaxvgm]

It is nice to know that my 1,000th post will be in a fanboy war, or in an instance that isn't civil.

Well, I get where you are coming from, but one thing: 85% of my clients run Linux on their Workstations (mostly number crunching, and edit photos, as well as encoding (not editing, just encoding)) But the issue is that Adobe doesn't support Linux anymore, let-alone for free.

Damn shame too. I mean idk what the hell they are thinking, not taking advantage of potential customers on linux. 

Interesting that you have that many linux clients. 

[Guest]

Damn shame too. I mean idk what the hell they are thinking, not taking advantage of potential customers on linux. 

Interesting that you have that many linux clients.

Most of my clients are aboard the FOSS movement.

[othertomperson]

That's the problem when your brand is too successful and you end up a generic term for both yourself and all of your competitors. Just ask Kleenex or Hoover.

[Glenwing]

I am locking this thread as it is misleading and just getting people heated up over nothing.

 

Adobe is not asking people to stop using Photoshop as a generic term, they are not actively trying to change the way people use the word.

 

Someone just found that clause buried in Adobe's legal documentation and is trying to make a big deal out of it. This is a standard legal clause all companies must have to protect their trademarks, otherwise if Adobe officially allowed the term "Photoshop" to be used generically then other software could be legally called "Photoshop" software. Adobe doesn't really care if you use the term Photoshop, they just can't officially endorse its generic use.