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Before I start off, if I'm wrong about anything, forgive me, I'm not exactly knowledgeable in this area.

If I remember right, it's Hindu where it is forbidden to eat beef, correct? I have a question about it. I overheard a customer as my local McDonalds, complaining that the burger he got was a beef burger, not chicken, and not knowing this, had already taken a bite out of it. Understandably, he was quite upset about having taken the bite, due to the religious reasons. What I wish to know is that, because he was not aware the burger was beef, nor did he intentionally eat beef, would he be forgiven in his religion? Like, I know eating beef is a sin in said religion, but he did not knowingly nor willfully eat beef, therefore would that be forgiven?

I'm sorry for the randomness of this question, but I'm genuinely curious, and I can't for the life of me figure it out myself, not knowing much about the religion.

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There are no real clear cut rules, I think the general idea is they would be forgiven if it was eaten by accident, its not like they are purposefully defying their religion if the food served to them was not correct

 

They consider cattle sacred but not all Hindus believe the same thing, and many of them eat beef too. so really its down to that persons interpretation and beliefs

 

I am sure if they HAD to eat beef for example if they were starving and could only eat beef, or ate it by accident they would pray for forgiveness and I imagine they would be forgiven as it was not done in malice

 

 

Religion is down to that persons beliefs, many Indians eat beef, so... really I doubt there is one specifically correct answer

 

Why is beef bad in this religion?

Cattle is considered Sacred to some Hindus

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Why is beef bad in this religion?

Because cows are holy IIRC

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Because cows are holy IIRC

 

Huh weird I guess. Oh well.

I'd view chicken to be holy. Which came first? Chicken or the egg!

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I believe I once heard my Muslim friend say it was okay for him to accidentally eat pork (which is forbidden in his religion), as long as you at least tried to spit it out as soon as he ate it..

Not sure though

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Huh weird I guess. Oh well.

I'd view chicken to be holy. Which came first? Chicken or the egg!

I once heard there was a death penalty on killing (on purpose or accidentally) a cow in India. Not sure though

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I once heard there was a death penalty on killing (on purpose or accidentally) a cow in India. Not sure though

 

What the hell. Religion is so skewed in my opinion. Believe what ya want though, you only live once!

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Which came first? Chicken or the egg!

Both. And neither. Because evolution is weird like that sometimes.

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This is specifically about a single Indian religion, not the whole of India. I know Indians eat beef, but in the Hindu religion, cows are sacred

Beef is AND isn't forbidden in the Hindu religion. What I mean is there are texts which forbid eating beef, and also texts which talk about the medicinal property of beef.

The ban against beef eating comes from a practical stand point, a cow is an animal that is very important from a agrarian stand point. It is a important animal in a agricultural society, and that is predominantly how it came about. So imposing a ban on cow and bull slaughter was just a practical way of ensuring agricultural productivity.

Yes it is still very much practiced in India, to the point that people like me who like Beef, do not get beef in North India. I come from Kerala, a state where most of the Hindus do eat beef (and have to say in a bit too unhealthy quantities considering the weather and lifestyle), but that is more due to a very secular environment (25% Muslims, 20% Christians, 50% Hindus) . In many other states, it is extremely hard to procure beef unless you are in Muslim areas, and you can never be very sure of the quality. In a few states like MP, and Gujarat, it is a crime to sell beef. So depending on where you are in India, it would still be practiced.

 

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That makes things a little clearer to me. So my belief that this man would be forgiven, given the circumstances is quite likely it seems. It just makes me sad seeing someone else upset about something, even religious, due to a mistake that's not their own.

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Ah, I see. As I said before, I am not very knowledgeable in this area. Or in any religion to be fair. I only know the Muslim dietary restrictions. I didn't know that different texts forbade beef, yet some don't

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Ah, I see. As I said before, I am not very knowledgeable in this area. Or in any religion to be fair. I only know the Muslim dietary restrictions. I didn't know that different texts forbade beef, yet some don't

im not indian tho thats just wht i found :P

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That makes things a little clearer to me. So my belief that this man would be forgiven, given the circumstances is quite likely it seems. It just makes me sad seeing someone else upset about something, even religious, due to a mistake that's not their own.

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Well assuming he believes he will be forgiven :P

 

Its religion and faith, there are no specific rules here

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 Chicken or the egg!

The egg as chickens are believed to be descended from dinosaurs, which laid eggs.

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Cattle is considered Sacred to some Hindus

Nope.  There are no sacred cows in India. The term "sacred" is a Christian one; doesn't really apply to India. Even if it did, it wouldn't apply to cows. There are no cow deities, cow icons, cow statues, and no temples to cows. Cows are one of the few animals that are not the object of worship in India.

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Nope.  There are no sacred cows in India. The term "sacred" is a Christian one; doesn't really apply to India. Even if it did, it wouldn't apply to cows. There are no cow deities, cow icons, cow statues, and no temples to cows. Cows are one of the few animals that are not the object of worship in India.

 

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Kamadhenu also known as Surabhi (सुरभि, Surabhī), is a divine bovine-goddess described in Hinduism as the mother of all cows
 
 All cows are venerated in Hinduism
 

 Kamadhenu as a "popular and enduring image in Indian art

 

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Is she a cow?  Or the mother of cows? 

She is depicted as half cow/half human, (with wings and two tails).

 

Venerated ≠ sacred.

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Is she a cow?  Or the mother of cows? 

She is depicted as half cow/half human. With wings and two tails

 

Venerated ≠ sacred.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_in_religion#In_India

 

Gopastami, a holiday celebrated by the Hindus once a year, is one of the few instances where cows receive prayers and sacrifices in modern day India

 

Since cow slaughtering is only legal in two Indian state

 

Venerated - Synonym, deify- worship or regard as god - so it pretty much does mean that... 

 

 

even if it isnt "sacred" its pretty much treated the same way

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I once heard there was a death penalty on killing (on purpose or accidentally) a cow in India. Not sure though

 

There is no death penalty on accidentally killing a cow in India...at least I hope not

 

What the hell. Religion is so skewed in my opinion. Believe what ya want though, you only live once!

 

Religion is not skewed imo...its how skewed peoples interpret religion that makes it skewed

 

Nope.  There are no sacred cows in India. The term "sacred" is a Christian one; doesn't really apply to India. Even if it did, it wouldn't apply to cows. There are no cow deities, cow icons, cow statues, and no temples to cows. Cows are one of the few animals that are not the object of worship in India.

 

Cows are SACRED in India. Though the term sacred is "Christian word" there are Hindi versions of the word...I don't think u can say a word does or doesn't apply to a country cuz that doesn't make any sense to me. Also cows are worshiped in India the reason being a cow was the vehicle of the God Shiva and hence sacred.

 

Now, I am not a what u would call a traditional person cuz I dont believe in lot of things which I should considering I am Hindu but imho the person who ate the beef accidentally doesn't need forgiveness from someone else but its about whether he considers the fact that he accidentally ate beef to big enough sin that he can't forgive himself. Not considering the religious nuts (cuz they are stupid) honest mistakes are not suppose to be be all and end all. Also, imho about the whole thing there is nothing to forgive cuz the moment the person realized what he did he rectified the mistake and no-one got hurt.

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Cows are SACRED in India. Though the term sacred is "Christian word"

 

Bit of a contradiction there.

 

Maybe the "Hindu" (Hindi?) word more or less equivalent to sacred but NOT sacred.

Pedantic, moi?

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I am Indian.

I am offended that you all seem to think that Indian = Hindu.

Were not all dumb. Just the majority.

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