I'm arguing about the term 'Indian" with someone.

[Realist Peter Pan]

They are writing a paper on Native Americans, but insists on writing it to the time period of what they were referred to, "Indians", but I counter that we need to call them by their correct term, "Native Muricans". (Americans I keed) Am I right to say that we should refer to them as what they geographically are, or should they be referred to as what they were believed to be? 

 

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I know why they were called 'Indians', I'm just asking whether it's better to refer to them as what they were defined by in the time period, or by their geographically correct terminology.  

 

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Thanks guys she has conceded defeat

 

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[STRMfrmXMN]

They are writing a paper on Native Americans, but insists on writing it to the time period of what they were referred to, "Indians", but I counter that we need to call them by their correct term, "Native Muricans". (Americans I keed) Am I right to say that we should refer to them as what they geographically are, or should they be referred to as what they were believed to be? 

Indians still make me think of a country with a billion people in the square mileage of a shoe. I would say Native Americans.

[Speaker1264]

Indians are from India,  Native Americans are Native Americans.

[DarkEnergy]

Both terms work.

[Realist Peter Pan]

Indians still make me think of a country with a billion people in the square mileage of a shoe. I would say Native Americans.

Exactly, I think the geography is more appropriate than another group of people defining them. 

[Atmos]

If hes writing it historically accurate, then the term indian is just fine. Thats what they used then, and what a lot of people still use now.

 

If hes trying to be a social justice warrior, and wants to use the politically correct, but necessarily not the ideologically correct term, than native american works. I say ideologically, because some people have come to calling Mayans, and tribesmen of the southern americas as "native americans" when even during that period of time they were called either savages, natives, or indians, depending on culture and time period.

 

Personally, i prefer the term native. Remove american from it all together.

[Deletive]

Techincally they're completely different, and in my eyes they are.

[Gix7Fifty]

Apparently the Vikings were more "native" than the Native Americans.

[lukky211111]

reason native americans were called indians is because the people who came here thought they were in india not in the americas hense why native americans were called indians.

[Realist Peter Pan]

If hes writing it historically accurate, then the term indian is just fine. Thats what they used then, and what a lot of people still use now.

 

If hes trying to be a social justice warrior, and wants to use the politically correct, but necessarily not the ideologically correct term, than native american works. I say ideologically, because some people have come to calling Mayans, and tribesmen of the southern americas as "native americans" when even during that period of time they were called either savages, natives, or indians, depending on culture and time period.

No it's nothing related to SJWs, I'm just arguing that geographically that is what they should be called, not by their mistaken identities with modern knowledge. 

[79 Potatoes]

Well you know, they were called Indian because Columbus thought he arrived to the Far East

[Albatross]

No, doesn't matter if he's writing something about what people used to call them (out of bigotry or ignorance).

 

Indians are from India,  Native Americans are Native Americans.

 

This.

 

They aren't Indians and calling them that is stupid.

 

Both terms work.

 

No.

 

 

 

Well you know, they were called Indian because Columbus thought he arrived to the Far East

 

I thought he called them Indios, not Indians?

[Ellis_D]

The only way "Indians" would be acceptable is if he's writing a period-fiction where the characters are using period-appropriate vocabulary.   Use of "Indians" in any other context would be inappropriate.

[Realist Peter Pan]

The only way "Indians" would be acceptable is if he's writing a period-fiction where the characters are using period-appropriate vocabulary.   Use of "Indians" in any other context would be inappropriate.

That is an acceptable interpretation. 

[DarkEnergy]

"Some American Indians prefer the term American Indian over Native American for specific reasons." 

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nc-american-indians/5526

[terrytek]

I still use indians since that's what i was taught

[_ASSASSIN_]

Personally, i prefer the term native. Remove american from it all together.

native of what? The point of calling them native american is saying that they are native to that country

 

Apparently the Vikings were more "native" than the Native Americans.

dunno if the vikings migrated to Americas before the siberians...

[Atmos]

No it's nothing related to SJWs, I'm just arguing that geographically that is what they should be called, not by their mistaken identities with modern knowledge. 

I see your point, but history can't be ignored. 

 

If anything, he should use a mix of the terms. When paraphrasing or using material from that time, he should use the term that people of the time used. To not do so would discredit his report. But in relevance to today, she should try to use the term that we use today, so if anything, a mix of the two when appropriate would be best.

[Kyuubixchidori]

They are writing a paper on Native Americans, but insists on writing it to the time period of what they were referred to, "Indians", but I counter that we need to call them by their correct term, "Native Muricans". (Americans I keed) Am I right to say that we should refer to them as what they geographically are, or should they be referred to as what they were believed to be? 

completely depends on the piece.

 

if its research paper, native american would work better. if it's a fiction piece, or something with dialogue, Indian would be a better fit. 

 

this huge push for political correctness is killing me. We joke my nephew who is black was left out in the sun to long because he's adopted into white family.my black buddy makes more black jokes then anyone ever should. also works at mcdonald's, and makes jokes to me like "we dont serve whites here" which in reverse or any sense really is fucking horrible, but we are all friends so who cares.

 

 

people on facebook where getting offended because they where called rednecks. like who cares. I understand showing respect, but not everything has to be 100% correct all the time. your should have fun in life and loosen up. 

/rant

 

OP, Native american is the correct way most likely. should go with it because school project and professionalism 

[Gix7Fifty]

native of what? The point of calling them native american is saying that they are native to that country

 

dunno if the vikings migrated to Americas before the siberians...

The Vikings came but they did not stay.

[_ASSASSIN_]

The Vikings came but they did not stay.

take some basic history kid

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120711134710.htm

[Guest Philosophy]

Native American. 

[Gix7Fifty]

take some basic history kid

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/07/120711134710.htm

Oh wait I got confused about who discovered the Americas, but no reason for you to be an asshat.

[79 Potatoes]

No, doesn't matter if he's writing something about what people used to call them (out of bigotry or ignorance).

This.

They aren't Indians and calling them that is stupid.

No.

I thought he called them Indios, not Indians?

Indios is indians in Spanish

[WillFromGA]

Indians still make me think of a country with a billion people in the square mileage of a shoe. I would say Native Americans.

Haha made my night