Bye AMD?

[FairladyZ]

I've heard a ton of rumors stating that Samsung or another company is going to acquire AMD. I think that this year will be make or break for AMD, if they rebadge the 7000 series again, that will spark some hate. Also, if they continue to let the FX series processors and the Phenom processors age and age, then AMD, in my opinion, is going to kick the bucket. Even myself, a dedicated AMD "fanboy", am considering buying the 980 Ti instead of the "390X"... But if Samsung acquires AMD, they could rebadge the Exynos CPUs to AMD, and maybe even work on new GPUs or something. But AMD is a huge company, and acquiring them would probably cost a ton of money, but seeing as Samsung is swimming in the cash, they could do it, but I don't think they would be ready to invest into trying to save a failing company. If no one acquires AMD, and they go down, what will Nvidia do? They won't have to try as hard to beat team red, since there won't really be any competition... But if AMD goes down, maybe Quallcomm could make desktop CPUs and desktop/mobile graphics...

[Godlygamer23]

If NVIDIA is the only desktop/mobile discrete graphics company left, that affects NVIDIA in a negative way - some areas do not allow for monopoly and therefore, NVIDIA would not be able to sell their products in those areas.

[wyattzx]

AMD's life is depending on just how well their new card launches go. They can stay afloat with their Workstation GPUs, but their consumer GPU market will die if this launch bombs, and their CPU market will be dead if their new chips do not live up to expectations. AMD's life is in the hands of these new GPUs, and their new CPUs. (In the consumer market, I mean.)

[Mightyinvader]

AMD's life is depending on just how well their new card launches go. They can stay afloat with their Workstation GPUs, but their consumer GPU market will die if this launch bombs, and their CPU market will be dead if their new chips do not live up to expectations. AMD's life is in the hands of these new GPUs, and their new CPUs. (In the consumer market, I mean.)

Perfectly said. 300 series will tell us

[niofalpha]

I think Intel and Nvidia would pump them with money (Intel's already doing something like this?) to keep them from going bankrupt.

 

If they close, Intel and Nvidia will become monopolies, and thus be forced to sell parts of their companies.

[SgnomeKing]

I think Intel and Nvidia would pump them with money (Intel's already doing something like this?) to keep them from going bankrupt.

 

No one pumps eachother money but no patent lawsuits for eachothers IP is where they are at and that saves hundreds of million a year and don't hold back progression.

 

If they close, Intel and Nvidia will become monopolies, and thus be forced to sell parts of their companies.

 

Not  at all. sorry but learn what a monopoly is first. You only have to sell (forced by government in the USA) when you deny others to use your patents for a reasonable fee and keep all your technology to your self. You can't own the whole market. There is Qualcomm, snap dragon, Intel, ETC there are so many company's the CPU business.

 

You can be the only business in the field if you are fair with patents and not get shutdown for a monopoly.

[mr moose]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly#Law

 

People seem to think having a monopoly is illegal:

 

Competition law does not make merely having a monopoly illegal, but rather abusing the power a monopoly may confer, for instance through exclusionary practices (i.e. pricing high just because you are the only one around.) It may also be noted that it is illegal to try to obtain a monopoly, by practices of buying out the competition, or equal practices.

 

 

 

Watch what the company does with it's position rather than concentrate on it's position. 

 

AMD won't go bust this year, At least I don't think it will.  They have been precariously balanced for about 6 years now and have managed to avoid the bankruptcy scythe thus far.

I think there are lots of people looking at AMD as a possible purchase,  companies like IBM, Qualcomm and maybe even realtek would have at least thought about it given they have something to gain from AMD's IP.  But at the end of the day it's all speculation, these companies are keeping their moves close to their chest so Anyone's guess is as good as the next.

[SansVarnic]

Qualcomm has shown to be fair a fair competitor in its own right, granted they have stayed to just the tablet/phone arenas but I think they could push into the PC CPU market in short order if they chose to.

Shoot when Nvidia started they had a hard time competing against AMD, Intel and 3dFx (which was king hands down at the time) until NVidia bought up 3dFx and was able to integrate the chip architecture into their design and came out with their GeForce line we now know.

[SgnomeKing]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly#Law

 

People seem to think having a monopoly is illegal:

 

 

 

Watch what the company does with it's position rather than concentrate on it's position. 

 

AMD won't go bust this year, At least I don't think it will.  They have been precariously balanced for about 6 years now and have managed to avoid the bankruptcy scythe thus far.

I think there are lots of people looking at AMD as a possible purchase,  companies like IBM, Qualcomm and maybe even realtek would have at least thought about it given they have something to gain from AMD's IP.  But at the end of the day it's all speculation, these companies are keeping their moves close to their chest so Anyone's guess is as good as the

AMD wont go bust for many many many years. The reason. is x64 owned by intel (32 bit computing) while amd owns x86 (64 bit computing) and everyone gets royalties from every phone, tablet, laptop, desktop. Thats HUGE money. And considering every computer tablet and phone is going 64bit that means AMD gets a portion of that money.

 

AMD is far from falling. they still have a plentiful reserve of income. They will be fine for a while., No one (including Intel and Nvidia) want them to fail.

[BOT Edward]

AMD wont go bust for many many many years. The reason. is x64 owned by intel (32 bit computing) while amd owns x86 (64 bit computing) and everyone gets royalties from every phone, tablet, laptop, desktop. Thats HUGE money. And considering every computer tablet and phone is going 64bit that means AMD gets a portion of that money.

 

AMD is far from falling. they still have a plentiful reserve of income. They will be fine for a while., No one (including Intel and Nvidia) want them to fail.

I think you have that the wrong way around buddy.

x64 is 64bit and x86 is 32...

[Godlygamer23]

The reason. is x64 owned by intel (32 bit computing) while amd owns x86 (64 bit computing).

x64 is 64 bit while x86 is referred to as 32 bit.

[SgnomeKing]

x64 is 64 bit while x86 is referred to as 32 bit.

Reverse my quote than it makes perfect sense.

[R_Golden]

If NVIDIA is the only desktop/mobile discrete graphics company left, that affects NVIDIA in a negative way - some areas do not allow for monopoly and therefore, NVIDIA would not be able to sell their products in those areas.

That's not how it works.

[SansVarnic]

Reverse my quote than it makes perfect sense.

Its ok a lot of people get this switched around.

[Godlygamer23]

That's not how it works.

A monopoly (from Greek monos μόνος (alone or single) + polein πωλεῖν (to sell)) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity (this contrasts with a monopsony which relates to a single entity's control of a market to purchase a good or service, and with oligopoly which consists of a few entities dominating an industry).^[2] Monopolies are thus characterized by a lack of economic competition to produce the good or service, a lack of viable substitute goods, and the existence of a high monopoly price well above the firm's marginal cost that leads to a high monopoly profit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly

[SansVarnic]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly#Law

 

People seem to think having a monopoly is illegal:

 

 

 

Watch what the company does with it's position rather than concentrate on it's position. 

 

AMD won't go bust this year, At least I don't think it will.  They have been precariously balanced for about 6 years now and have managed to avoid the bankruptcy scythe thus far.

I think there are lots of people looking at AMD as a possible purchase,  companies like IBM, Qualcomm and maybe even realtek would have at least thought about it given they have something to gain from AMD's IP.  But at the end of the day it's all speculation, these companies are keeping their moves close to their chest so Anyone's guess is as good as the next.

You are quite correct on this point. Look at what they tried to do to Microsoft for having a supposed monopoly in the OS world even tho linux, ubuntu, apple, IBM and what ever other  OS existed out there. Illegal monopoly is only if the competition is forced out business not if the other guy happens to just fail on its own, there are other companies that have monopolies but not because they prefer it that way but because others could not compete or there just isn't another company that wants to compete.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Neh, not in a hundred years. 

[ilikepie1974]

 

I think Intel and Nvidia would pump them with money (Intel's already doing something like this?) to keep them from going bankrupt.

 

No one pumps eachother money but no patent lawsuits for eachothers IP is where they are at and that saves hundreds of million a year and don't hold back progression.

 

If they close, Intel and Nvidia will become monopolies, and thus be forced to sell parts of their companies.

 

Not  at all. sorry but learn what a monopoly is first. You only have to sell (forced by government in the USA) when you deny others to use your patents for a reasonable fee and keep all your technology to your self. You can't own the whole market. There is Qualcomm, snap dragon, Intel, ETC there are so many company's the CPU business.

 

You can be the only business in the field if you are fair with patents and not get shutdown for a monopoly.

 

not necisarily. see the merger between TWC and comscast, they dont really have patents, they would just be monopolies in many areas, and as such the FCC didnt let it go through

[MEC-777]

AMD is FAAAAAR from going under. It is often made known, where a company is NOT doing well and often kept quiet, where a company IS doing well. AMD has a much broader market than just desktop enthusiast CPUs and GPUs. It's easy for us to be narrow-minded about this, but you have to look at the whole picture.

[GrimNeo]

I don't think this is goodbye for AMD. They will do fine.

[SkilledRebuilds]

Samsung phones with GCN driven GPU's, that'd be nice...

[Nena Trinity]

AMD is not gonna go bankrupt unless the 300 series fail and they do more blunders in 2016...

 

Also they still wont the console war!