Further details and codenames for the R9 300 series

[Guest]

R9 390(x) and the R9 395x2 (Fiji) will be a new silicone with HBM memory on a 1024bit interface. The dual GPU card (2xFiji) will be called Bermuda.

 

R9 380(x) (Grenada) will be rebranded R9 290(x)s with increased clockspeeds and (hopefully) better reference coolers.

 

R9 370(x) will be Tonga based (we've already seen this with the R9 285), with a wider memory bus and 3G of GDDR5.

 

Source: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r300-grenada-is-380xfiji-is-390x-and-bermuda-is-395x2.html

 

 

Makes total sense if you ask me. It's sad that we apparently won't be seeing HBM on the R9 380(x)s, but rebranded R9 290's should be fine if the price is right. What's interesting is that they're supposed to have the higher clockspeeds to "compete with the 980", which would require quite an OC on current R9 290x's (at least at anything lower than 4k). Maybe that's the reason for the beefier cooling solution as well, CLC for heavily OCed R9 290(x)s out of the box? I would be okay with that. Tonga for the 370 seems like a perfect fit, solid improvements and finally a mid-range card with more than 2GB of memory.

[SkilledRebuilds]

380 380x being a 290 290x rebrand...

That's the one I was hoping for...

Guess not...

R9 390(x) FTW!!!

[DIV1D3]

NIEN, I probably will only be able to afford a 380X, and I no wants a rebranded 290X...

If only I could sell my 280Xs for 300 (AUD) a piece. 

[melias24]

So excited for these new cards! 

LOL JK getting HD7970 CX!

[Suffokation]

Dear everyone who said the 380X would crush the 980,

Lol.

[SuperPug]

Enough with the damn rebrands already FFS...

[Albatross]

So two of these cards aren't new at all? All that hype was for nothing.

 

Rebrands. Disappointed.

 

R9 390(x) and the R9 395x2 (Fiji) will be a new silicone with HBM memory on a 1024bit interface. The dual GPU card (2xFiji) will be called Bermuda.

 

R9 380(x) (Grenada) will be rebranded R9 290(x)s with increased clockspeeds and (hopefully) better reference coolers.

 

R9 370(x) will be Tonga based (we've already seen this with the R9 285), with a wider memory bus and 3G of GDDR5.

 

Source: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r300-grenada-is-380xfiji-is-390x-and-bermuda-is-395x2.html

 

 

Makes total sense if you ask me. It's sad that we apparently won't be seeing HBM on the R9 380(x)s, but rebranded R9 290's should be fine if the price is right. What's interesting is that they're supposed to have the higher clockspeeds to "compete with the 980", which would require quite an OC on current R9 290x's (at least at anything lower than 4k). Maybe that's the reason for the beefier cooling solution as well, CLC for heavily OCed R9 290(x)s out of the box? I would be okay with that. Tonga for the 370 seems like a perfect fit, solid improvements and finally a mid-range card with more than 2GB of memory.

 

Why did I immediately think of "Topanga!"?  :lol: 

[Guest]

Dear everyone who said the 380X would crush the 980,

Lol.

 

If they are heavily OCed then they could come close, especially at higher resolutions. That said, they don't need to and probably won't directly compete with the 980. That's what the R9 390 is for, (hopefully) higher performance at a lower price with the R9 390x as the absolute flagship for <500 bucks at launch.

[Guest]

Enough with the damn rebrands already FFS...

 

So two of these cards aren't new at all? All that hype was for nothing.

 

Rebrands. Disappointed.

 

 

Why did I immediately think of "Topanga!"?  :lol:

 

The exact same thing happened with the gtx 770 (or 760), just a rebranded flagship from the last generation. Rebrands are totally fine as long as the price is right IMO. And anything that's an excuse to redesign the reference cooler is also great. Also keep in mind that they're apparently "competing with the 980" in some way, so a heavy OC and a CLC cooler would be my guess.

If the R9 380x doesn't satisfy you I guess there's always the R9 390, even if it's cut-down compared to the 390x it should still feature HBM.

[SuperPug]

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I know that the 770 was a rebranded 680 and that the R9 series had a bunch of HD 7xxx rebrands but i had really high hopes for the R9 380X - if i wanted a hot Hawaii GPU i'd buy a R9 290(X)... Also good luck with overclocking Hawaii AMD i don't wanna buy a 850 PSU to run a single GPU /s

[Castdeath97]

Yay their sweet spot card will hopefully be good, as long as the extra V-ram and wider bus makes it better than the 960 for the same price and not turn it into a bad rebrand.

[Speedbird]

Addng them to my list....

[Albatross]

The exact same thing happened with the gtx 770 (or 760), just a rebranded flagship from the last generation. Rebrands are totally fine as long as the price is right IMO. And anything that's an excuse to redesign the reference cooler is also great. Also keep in mind that they're apparently "competing with the 980" in some way, so a heavy OC and a CLC cooler would be my guess.

If the R9 380x doesn't satisfy you I guess there's always the R9 390, even if it's cut-down compared to the 390x it should still feature HBM.

 

Yes, that is certainly true, but I am pretty sure everyone here expected something new from AMD entirely. Not just rebrands for two of the three "new" cards.

 

 

I beat the rebrands will have higher power consumption and higher heat, too. Massive disappointment.

[patrickjp93]

The exact same thing happened with the gtx 770 (or 760), just a rebranded flagship from the last generation. Rebrands are totally fine as long as the price is right IMO. And anything that's an excuse to redesign the reference cooler is also great. Also keep in mind that they're apparently "competing with the 980" in some way, so a heavy OC and a CLC cooler would be my guess.

If the R9 380x doesn't satisfy you I guess there's always the R9 390, even if it's cut-down compared to the 390x it should still feature HBM.

The problem with AMD is they rebrand all but 2-3 cards (4 in this case: 390/X, 395x2, and Tonga Pro 370X) each generation. At least with Nvidia it's a full new lineup with every architecture change.

[Suffokation]

The problem with AMD is they rebrand all but 2-3 cards (4 in this case: 390/X, 395x2, and Tonga Pro 370X) each generation. At least with Nvidia it's a full new lineup with every architecture change.

What about the 960? And the 770 and 760?

NVidia re-brands aswell mate.

[Guest]

Yes, that is certainly true, but I am pretty sure everyone here expected something new from AMD entirely. Not just rebrands for two of the three "new" cards.

 

 

I beat the rebrands will have higher power consumption and higher heat, too. Massive disappointment.

 

Well they are bringing something "new", completely new memory that we haven't even seen before on a GPU. That's a really big deal, so they probably focused on that. We also don't know the prices yet, HBM might just be too expensive for a 380x right now.

 

Yay their sweet spot card will hopefully be good, as long as the extra V-ram and wider bus makes it better than the 960 for the same price and not turn it into a bad rebrand.

 

I expect the 370x to be pretty damn good for the money. Think of what we've seen with Tonga so far, just beefed up and with more memory.

[Guest]

The problem with AMD is they rebrand all but 2-3 cards (4 in this case: 390/X, 395x2, and Tonga Pro 370X) each generation. At least with Nvidia it's a full new lineup with every architecture change.

 

If you count the 980 and 970 as 2 cards then you would also have to count the 390 and 390x as seperate cards. Same GPU, just cut down a bit. If you don't want to buy the absolute flagship you could still get the R9 390, with all the new features and HBM. Tonga seems great for the low-end, they have something completely new for the high end and then a rebrand of the last flagship. Seems totally fine to me. Obviously I'd have loved to see something new for the 380x as well, but if it doesn't make any sense (HBM too expensive for these GPUs, etc.) then a rebrand of the newest flagship is totally sensible.

[Si3Rra_7]

Also 1024bit interface ? UWUTM8 ?

[Guest]

Also 1024bit interface ? UWUTM8 ?

 

HBM could easily have a 2048 bit interface, that's how it is designed. It's closer to the GPU, so no tracers to some scattered memory modules (2 major blocks right besides the GPU), it doesn't need to run at 5+GHz due to the higher throughput and it'll (hopefully) result in a massive bandwidth increase while reducing power consumption.

 

An extremely wide bus with lower clocked memory is better than a narrow bus with high frequency memory. And with HBM they can do that. Just don't try to directly compare it to GDDR5, that won't really work from now on.

[patrickjp93]

What about the 960? And the 770 and 760?

NVidia re-brands aswell mate.

yes but 600-700 was all kepler. There it made sense. 900 is all maxwell, and the only Maxwell cards launched before the 900 series were the 750/TI. It don't think the 960 is a rebrand anyway.

[jaggysnake57]

whats the prices gonna be on these, do people think the 390x will be the same price as the 980?

[Giannhs]

whats the prices gonna be on these, do people think the 390x will be the same price as the 980?

If they want to sell they will cost it lower than the 980, it makes sense at least

[Shine_Syahr]

I hope it's just speculation. I really hoped for AMD to come up with something new and not rebrand their products. Seems like I'll be disappointed and should simply just lower my expectations.

Nvidia's Maxwell structure is refreshing and even though the performance gains aren't that great, its still nice to see something different.

I love AMD but if their solution to everything is simply literally slapping on more cores, pumping in more power, inclusion of AIOs and rebrands. It's not very exciting. I think Nvidia's Maxwell approach is the way to go. Less power for more performance. Though I can't agree with Nvidia's business ethics sometimes

[Brainless906]

Enough with the damn rebrands already FFS...

a....are you new to the GPU game?

[AlwaysFlexin]

Dear everyone who said the 380X would crush the 980,

Lol.

 

Made me lol @ work. Not worth explaining to them though.