NVIDIA and AMD are both working toward 8K resolution (7680x4320)

[cesrai]

that would be super bad. literally no competition at all then

Yes, but imagine Amd makes x86 chip and Nvidia makes ARM maybe we get a get hybrid or better APUs or something , there GPU department engineers be working together now imagine they make a GPU that has CUDA and great open CL performance.

 

I know AMD is planing on releasing a x86 and ARM hybrid but maybe they will make a better one if they worked with Nvidia as they said to expect Haswell class performance with Denver.

[fnixha]

8k need will bring pascal+new huge motherboard design soo 2020+ for sure

[Mochi]

8k should look amazing but I don't think Nvidia and Amd should go much further than that because there can be crazy high resolutions where the human eye cannot tell the differences between them.

[Notional]

"If we get to a display resolution of about 8k horizontally and about 6k vertically then, for a player with 20/20 vision, they will have something that is close to perfect for their visual system."

That doesn't even make sense, display size is important too, having 8K on a 15' screen won't be perfect for anyone...

 

He talks about your entire FOV. Display size is irrelevant.

 

Yes, but imagine Amd makes x86 chip and Nvidia makes ARM maybe we get a get hybrid or better APUs or something , there GPU department engineers be working together now imagine they make a GPU that has CUDA and great open CL performance.

 

I know AMD is planing on releasing a x86 and ARM hybrid but maybe they will make a better one if they worked with Nvidia as they said to expect Haswell class performance with Denver.

 

I'm really not seeing Nvidia bringing anything to the table in that collaboration. Why would AMD need CUDA for anything? Just another proprietary tech, that has very little support. AMD is more capable at creating what is needed (and are already doing so), than Nvidia is. No keep them apart, and have them in a perpetual battle. That is the only thing, that will be good for the end user (that and Nvidia scrapping their proprietary crap).

[cesrai]

He talks about your entire FOV. Display size is irrelevant.

 

 

I'm really not seeing Nvidia bringing anything to the table in that collaboration. Why would AMD need CUDA for anything? Just another proprietary tech, that has very little support. AMD is more capable at creating what is needed (and are already doing so), than Nvidia is. No keep them apart, and have them in a perpetual battle. That is the only thing, that will be good for the end user (that and Nvidia scrapping their proprietary crap).

They will crate a hybrid between GCN and CUDA imagine just imagine pros from both of the chips together.

[Bsmith]

8K? hmm i doubt they will get it anytime soon, at the moment professional DSLRs don't go above +/- 6k, i support progress, but it needs a reason to exist first. so far i don't see any reason yet.

[jecho]

I doubt that they would release any monitor smaller than 27" with an 8k resolution

My comment refers to gaming a couple years down the line I would rather have 4k because the rate that GPUs will improve will not be good enough unless you are playing CS or Minecraft on your fancy 8k monitor. Without major optimizations and some massive leap foreword 8k will not be viable for many years unless you like lower settings or they can actually fix the drivers to really run quad sli/crossfire with top of the line cards. And why not less than 27 inches. Dell makes a 24 inch 4k.

[BiG StroOnZ]

They will crate a hybrid between GCN and CUDA imagine just imagine pros from both of the chips together.

 

Antitrust laws would prevent that merge from ever happening. So all you can do is dream about it. 

[EpicAdom]

My comment refers to gaming a couple years down the line I would rather have 4k because the rate that GPUs will improve will not be good enough unless you are playing CS or Minecraft on your fancy 8k monitor. Without major optimizations and some massive leap foreword 8k will not be viable for many years unless you like lower settings or they can actually fix the drivers to really run quad sli/crossfire with top of the line cards. And why not less than 27 inches. Dell makes a 24 inch 4k.

24 inch 4k isn't completely rediculous. 24 inch 8k is completely rediculous.

[ItsComrade]

4k was so 2013

 I don't even think it's 2014 yet...

[Foxxer]

8K, I'm sure many will wear glasses soon. 

[Biased Opinion]

I dont care about 8k or even 4k for gaming, but what I do want is more horizontal pixels for even more tabs. That is the entire reason for why I am excited for that benq 2.5k 24 in display. It is a legitimate way for me have more tabs open at the same time with previews without increasing the physical size of my setup.

[Virgule]

Yes. HEY COMPANIES: Work on getting 60+ hz out of 4k first, THEN move onto 8k.

What for though, refresh rates are just numbers.... -Ubisoft project manager

[Victorious Secret]

8K? hmm i doubt they will get it anytime soon, at the moment professional DSLRs don't go above +/- 6k, i support progress, but it needs a reason to exist first. so far i don't see any reason yet.

 

Well...one of my DSLRs already exceeds the total pixels of 8K (which is 7680x4320) and professional editors would LOVE the ability to have pixel to pixel editing abilities, to say nothing of those running the actual pro grade medium format cameras who can make use of every high res panel they could get their hands on. 

 

 

There is never a reason for anything to exist. We don't need Ferraris with 700hp or cars that do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds or phones that can do 240fps internally. Its all advancement for the sake of pushing the envelope. 8K is stated to be a TV thing in 2017, with concepts already hitting the circuit floors. 

 

Creative types I think would vouch for displays that support 4, 5 and 8K resolutions and the GPUs that can drive them for their work. The need is there, its just not entirely for consumers just yet. But just like 1080p panels used to be a pretty penny for consumers and like 4K ones are now; these costs will drop and transfer to the consumer where they become standards we are used to. 

10 years ago if you had said Full HD would be a thing people would've laughed you down the street. These days people can't fathom having anything less. 

[Bsmith]

Well...one of my DSLRs already exceeds the total pixels of 8K (which is 7680x4320) and professional editors would LOVE the ability to have pixel to pixel editing abilities, to say nothing of those running the actual pro grade medium format cameras who can make use of every high res panel they could get their hands on. 

 

-snip epic pic-

 

There is never a reason for anything to exist. We don't need Ferraris with 700hp or cars that do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds or phones that can do 240fps internally. Its all advancement for the sake of pushing the envelope. 8K is stated to be a TV thing in 2017, with concepts already hitting the circuit floors. 

 

Creative types I think would vouch for displays that support 4, 5 and 8K resolutions and the GPUs that can drive them for their work. The need is there, its just not entirely for consumers just yet. But just like 1080p panels used to be a pretty penny for consumers and like 4K ones are now; these costs will drop and transfer to the consumer where they become standards we are used to. 

10 years ago if you had said Full HD would be a thing people would've laughed you down the street. These days people can't fathom having anything less. 

 

hmm, what kind of DSLR are you using? you got me interested in that suddenly(pm because off topic)

 and i admit if gpu's etc could support 8k+ it wouldn't be bad, aslong companies( samsung, sony, philips, LG etc) don't push it to soon to fast to consumers like 4k, it's great, but nothing could handle it, tv broadcasts didn't, gpu's didn't(or barely did) OSes didn't, CPU's didnt, aslong that isn't a problem 8k will be interagted nearly seamingless just like 1080 went pretty smoot on TVs

[Victorious Secret]

hmm, what kind of DSLR are you using? you got me interested in that suddenly(pm because off topic)

 and i admit if gpu's etc could support 8k+ it wouldn't be bad, aslong companies( samsung, sony, philips, LG etc) don't push it to soon to fast to consumers like 4k, it's great, but nothing could handle it, tv broadcasts didn't, gpu's didn't(or barely did) OSes didn't, CPU's didnt, aslong that isn't a problem 8k will be interagted nearly seamingless just like 1080 went pretty smoot on TVs

 

That one specifically is a D800E. The high MP shots are ludicrous, I burn through storage like no tomorrow, but its great since even cropping in gives you 4K/5K worth of pixels to make use of. Its kinda hilarious that I can chop off 3K worth of pixels and still have a beyond usable image that is cropped in a way I like (if and when I screw up the out of camera shot)

 

[Almercenary]

Don't see the point. 8k won't be happening for another 5 years I reckon.

[Bsmith]

That one specifically is a D800E. The high MP shots are ludicrous, I burn through storage like no tomorrow, but its great since even cropping in gives you 4K/5K worth of pixels to make use of. Its kinda hilarious that I can chop off 3K worth of pixels and still have a beyond usable image that is cropped in a way I like (if and when I screw up the out of camera shot)

 

 

that sounds sweet, to bad canon(so far i know) doesnt go above 6k(5.7k something something by something pixels)

[Khvarrioiren]

Yep, couldn't of agreed with you more but the benefits of just one card being made by working together would be such a benefit to us and them. I know AMD aren't the best, Intel asked them if they could get involved with Mantle which OK would have helped Intel more but maybe Mantle would've flown but AMD had to say no. We can all wish.

 

Of course they say no when it's still in closed development.

[patrickjp93]

Antitrust laws would prevent that merge from ever happening. So all you can do is dream about it. 

Not true. Releasing a product that allows one to use features from both is not anti-competitive. Anyone can build OpenCL and OpenGL-capable hardware. They're not locked standards with licensing the way x86 is.

[patrickjp93]

I dont care about 8k or even 4k for gaming, but what I do want is more horizontal pixels for even more tabs. That is the entire reason for why I am excited for that benq 2.5k 24 in display. It is a legitimate way for me have more tabs open at the same time with previews without increasing the physical size of my setup.

Welcome to why programmers LOOOOVE multi-monitor displays. Now if only Linux had good multi-monitor support. I want Emacs, G++, Clang, and Intel Parallel Studio in one place god dammit.

[Vedge]

means better 4k performance in any case.

[rentaspoon]

Of course they say no when it's still in closed development.

Why? Getting Intel to back it would of help even during close development, having Intel and AMD work together would of helped even on marketing hype alone.

[Khvarrioiren]

Welcome to why programmers LOOOOVE multi-monitor displays. Now if only Linux had good multi-monitor support. I want Emacs, G++, Clang, and Intel Parallel Studio in one place god dammit.

Isn't Xinerama quite viable nowadays?

[Khvarrioiren]

Why? Getting Intel to back it would of help even during close development, having Intel and AMD work together would of helped even on marketing hype alone.

 

Based on that logic; Why do closed betas exist at all?