Why do people hate AMD cpu's so much

[fringie]

Because people are misinformed/have brand loyalties/are easily influenced/bandwagon.

[mr moose]

Because people are misinformed/have brand loyalties/are easily influenced/bandwagon.

 

And everyone knows that AMD cpus are shit because unlike Intel CPUs, Amd cpus can't do your laundry any were near as well,  they always use too much detergent making you smell like a box of OMO.

[GamerDude]

Oh interesting. 460's are quiet old now though. I had problems with 7970's when it was their flagship at the time. Still Nvidia should have proper support for older cards too.

That's the thing, I've had bad experiences with both...but that hasn't made me swear off either.....though I favor AMD since I see nVidia as the 'Apple' of GPU.

I had been running 3x HD7970 before going 2x R9 290X, never had any major issue....minor ones, yes, like flickering texture. But one has to bear in mind that there were 3 HD7970's so there's bound to be some issues, nothing game breaking.......other than Alan Wake seriously not liking CF and SLi at launch.

I have bought AMD and Intel CPU's over the years and like them both. I like my FX8350 quite a lot and use it most among my rigs. I'd heard good things about the Deneb core Phenom II X6 that I had recently built a rig with an X6 1100T. Though an older architecture, it still has plenty of life left in it. I use this rig for gaming and ripping, it' an excellent CPU.

[Foxxer]

because slow...

[TheRagingGamer]

And everyone knows that AMD cpus are shit because unlike Intel CPUs, Amd cpus can't do your laundry any were near as well,  they always use too much detergent making you smell like a box of OMO.

i don't know what you are doing with your CPU but i put my CPU in a PC not in a washing mashine 

[harrynowl]

i don't know what you are doing with your CPU but i put my CPU in a PC not in a washing mashine 

Don't you know CPUs love washing machines? I always keep them in the pockets of my jeans when I wash them!

 

 

 

please dont

[TheRagingGamer]

Don't you know CPUs love washing machines? I always keep them in the pockets of my jeans when I wash them!

 

 

 

please dont

well yes cpu's are made of silicone and silicone is made of sand and sand is found on beaches and beached are always near water  

[harrynowl]

well yes cpu's are made of silicone and silicone is made of sand and sand is found on beaches and beached are always near water  

Someone has been watching Logan

[D3MON]

 

• Budget gaming? AMD has nothing against G3258 OC / H81 / <$100 discrete HD7770 or GTX750.
• Grandmother PC for watching cat videos on Youtube? AMD gets creamed in power efficiency.
• Midrange gaming and up? Furgetaboutit.

 

The only thing AMD wins is where their 8 cores can fit into some super tiny niche while still having to deal with gargantuan power consumption, or a dubious APU "gaming" machine where is barely has enough horsepower to run 720P.

 

did you just join the forum today to troll? if it didnt compete with intel, it wouldnt be priced the same, if a pentium k actually competed with an 8320 itd be £100 and if a 8350 competed with a 4930k it'd be £450... neither company wants to give away parts cheaper than needs be and neither wants to price themself out of the market.

1-760k

2-athlon 3850

3-my rig?

[Unlikelyjoker]

Mostly because of performance issues.

Though am I the only one who thinks Intel CPU run hotter? With AMD CPU they usually cap at around 60c but with Intel and their shitty stock coolers they go all the way up to 70 and even 80c.

I'm running a stock cooler and mine caps at 60

[Judist]

Both companies produce chips that can handle today's tasks without issues. Reason for the hate (while moot) is brand support. Chevy vs Ford.

Rarely Intel/AMD will produce a clunker worth staying away from (read performance reviews) but if pick a capable CPU from the company you like then you'll be happy.

And that's all that matters.

[x10kuliai]

I have owned all intel pentiums from 1..4, then a core 2 quad q8200, and now i recently upgaded my PC and choose AMD over intel and nvidia. (had tight budget, but dont regret a bit.)

 

Now using athlon x4 760K clocked @ 4.5Ghz @ 1.45v, northbridge @ 2500Mhz @ 1,2v.

Stock is 3,8Ghz @1.35v, northbridge 1600Mhz.

 

Plus msi radeon r9 270.

All i can say is while AMD might lack in some aspects. It does very good job in delivering what you seek for your money. 
I think INTEL has gotten very greedy (becouse of all the fanboys supporting them) and they keep milking their customers pockets. 

They know noone can stop them and they dont give a sh**. As i see the price diference is too damn high considering benefits.
You should go with INTEL only if  A) you have money to spare
                                                    B ) you are going for high end product. (like i7extreme or something like that).

 

 

IMHO nvidia is no different. They just keep using their good earned trust of consumers over the years. So they keep price tag of their respective products at max. And fail to deliver the support that you should expect for the extra money you pay them.
                             

[ColorfulShardMC]

Not every one does I own both an i7 2600k and an AMD 8320

[nokturrduk84]

I will be short, BECAUSE THEY ARE SHIT COMPARING TO INTEL!

[Faa]

the fx8 is worth £105 and the 8320 is.

a 760k is worth £60 and is..

the pentium k is worth £55 and is..

the 4670k (2x pentium k's) is obviously worth £110 and is.....£160

You kinda got it wrong here; 8320 is equal to a 6300 and 4300 mostly so basically you're paying twice as much for the 8320 for no gain except in 10 games with half of them only showing a difference with a 400$ GPU and with a simple 7850 you're justifying as good as nothing with a 8320 over a 4300. Most 8320 owners I've seen are pairing it up with a cheap board and a cheap GPU, cores that are adding nothing is hardly making sense. Also don't forget about the i5 4440 which can run flawlessly on much cheaper boards than 8320's need, single core performance is still far ahead of 9590's so it's a better value than a 8320 here for gaming.

 

In a dying market like the desktop thats mostly only being used for gaming, almost dead for mainstream use why would you go with a CPU like the 8320 where of its full potential hasn't been unleashed yet that people have been hoping for since 2011 when you can have for a few more pennies a CPU thats provides up to twice as much performance?

 

ive gotta ask anyone with a 3770k/4770k what they use it for because i dont get it and i want to

Whats the point of your CPU besides its better for rendering and your question is answered.

 

[Enderman]

 

Intel already has i7s with 8 or 12 threads that perform better than AMD in multithreaded applications.

[Archangel1994]

Intel already has i7s with 8 or 12 threads that perform better than AMD in multithreaded applications.

only those are more than double the price of an 8320/8350

[patrickjp93]

G3258 is overhyped bullshit. Does anyone ever look at benchmarks here, that cpu is shit. Just because its overclockable doesnt mean its good

You ever seen the gaming reviews? It keeps up with most quad cores. Of course, this is because game programmers are generally not proficient in high performance multicore computing. That is slowly beginning to change.

[TheRagingGamer]

You ever seen the gaming reviews? It keeps up with most quad cores. Of course, this is because game programmers are generally not proficient in high performance multicore computing. That is slowly beginning to change.

ive seen it, you need a good motherboard, aftermarket cooler and a cpu, and you will bot even come close to fx 6300 

[patrickjp93]

Not hating on AMD...

I'm using an APU based system (A8-5600k)... Unless you can give me an Intel chip that can game out of the box at the same price point, without a graphics card, I'll gladly switch back to Intel(on desktops... Intel for notebooks for me)...

My next build (a low budget HTPC/work only pc, if it becomes real before I graduate from college) will most likely be AMD based since they're best at the really low budget price point....

Still, Intel chips would work better for server applications thanks to HyperThreading...

Skylake will be that Intel solution with a projected 60% performance increase over Broadwell which is projected 40% improvement over Haswell, and Skylake is basically Intel's Kaveri.

ive seen it, you need a good motherboard, aftermarket cooler and a cpu, and you will bot even come close to fx 6300

In very modern games with heavily parallelized boot-loaders, yes, the FX 6300 will win by default. The G3258 is not a crap solution. It's a great solution if you have a tight budget, but it's a niche product.

[DaRk0]

I was getting 70ºc with the stock cooler during prime95 on my 4670k at stock speeds, and and 73ºc at 4.3ghz 1.2v with a seidon 240m. 

 

Same here. Not using stock, but I don't go above 60 degrees with my 4770K with an old Xigmatek cooler.

 

Not sure if troll thread or what.

[nokturrduk84]

this^

although 290 beats 780 for cheaper, 780ti beats 290x...but it's irrelevant because even i wouldnt buy a 290x....

I always had nvidia because i bought into the better features and better product bull, then i woke up, seems others havent.

and as someone else said, the prices reflect the performance (you get what you pay for) amd's chips that are the same price as intels are that price for a reason, neither company would overprice thier product hoping fanboys would buy it regardless, thats daft.

the fx8 is worth £105 and the 8320 is.

a 760k is worth £60 and is..

the pentium k is worth £55 and is..

the 4670k (2x pentium k's) is obviously worth £110 and is.....£160

ive gotta ask anyone with a 3770k/4770k what they use it for because i dont get it and i want to, an i5 is enough cores for great gaming and when overclocked compared to an fx8 in rendering aswell so albeit overpriced a bit (see above) make sense, if you need more threads for rendering AND gaming....why not get a second hand 2011? if you want new then fair enough thats an expensive but fair reason, but you can get a 3930k for £220 from cex with a 12 month warranty, a 4770k is £270....

be nice

and ive had a sneaking suspicion with nvidia that after long enough newer drivers decrease performance in older cards (almost forgot my tin foil hat), look for crysis 2 performance benchmarks for the 480 (just got crysis 2 and 3 for £7.50, way to go EA), it outperformed the 570 which is the same card/core and the 580 , so much for more reliable drivers with nvidia. gtx 460 is still pretty cool, its architecture is actually different from the other cards, it features more "cuda cores" per smx unit than is typically used in other cards, a cool read on google somewhere.

Yeah they came out 2 years ago but noone could ever find them, amd REALLY needs to do like 5 speed bins of every chips and then do another 5 but with locked multi's and then do all the same again btu with only 1 integer unit per module in the same way intel sells non hyperthreaded cpu's, that turns 3 cpu's into 60.. thats why intels market share is so big, they just put out more (versions of) thier chips.

Because modern games benefit of Hyper Threading & i7s give more performance. That's why.

[Faa]

 

ive seen it, you need a good motherboard, aftermarket cooler and a cpu, and you will bot even come close to fx 6300 

A H81m-HDS from Asrock does easily get 4.5GHz out of it with the stock cooler. Also in this review, where they tested the pentium at 4.7GHz vs a 6300 4.7GHz, the 6300 doesn't seem to be having anywhere near a 50% advantage where as the pentium had a 100% advantage in FSX. http://pclab.pl/art57691-8.html

[patrickjp93]

Yet haswell runs hotter than vishera...

And we all know that only has to do with Intel choosing to use thermal paste over soldering the chip to the IHS. Naked mount Haswell is cooler by a long shot.

[TheRagingGamer]

 

 

A H81m-HDS from Asrock does easily get 4.5GHz out of it with the stock cooler. Also in this review, where they tested the pentium at 4.7GHz vs a 6300 4.7GHz, the 6300 doesn't seem to be having anywhere near a 50% advantage where as the pentium had a 100% advantage in FSX. http://pclab.pl/art57691-8.html

 

was the fx overclocked