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Series.Blue BRZ has 100HP per liter and has a 2.5 liter Engine.....So 250HP, 50 more than the default BRZ.

fixed. Also, that car would be a great choice

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Get a used 2012/2013 WRX. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=32819&endYear=2015&modelCode1=IMPWRX&showcaseOwnerId=100019484&startYear=1981&makeCode1=SUB&searchRadius=25&maxPrice=26000&showcaseListingId=375656131&mmt=%5BSUB%5BIMPWRX%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=375656131&Log=0 http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=32819&endYear=2015&modelCode1=IMPWRX&showcaseOwnerId=100019484&startYear=1981&makeCode1=SUB&searchRadius=25&maxPrice=26000&showcaseListingId=375656131&mmt=%5BSUB%5BIMPWRX%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=377577544&Log=0


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My vote goes to the Scion FR-S

 

why?

 

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it's AE86 little brother

 

just add decals and carbon fiber stickers on the hood and the RS Watanabe Rims

 

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If you are looking for Nissan RB straight six engine is where its at :P

 

You could also look for a Datsun 280Z because it looks so damm sexy.

 

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I love the 240Z version

 

or the other model code used in Japan is the S30 aka the Devil Z with a L28 turbo carb engine

 

otherwise I will get the same chassis and dump a RB26DETT with the R34 GTT driveline 

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The BRZ and FRS are the same car. I wouldn't get one unless you plan on modding it as they are slow as balls stock, but have perfect 50/50 weight distribution and great suspension. 370z's are heavy pigs but if you dump enough money into it they can be fast. If you want a sports car, get an Sti or an Evo. Much better cars imho. 

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If you do get a FRS, do yourself a fav and get rid of those god awful ricer Scion badges and replace with the proper Toyota ones.

 

 

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The BRZ and FRS are the same car. I wouldn't get one unless you plan on modding it as they are slow as balls stock, but have perfect 50/50 weight distribution and great suspension. 370z's are heavy pigs but if you dump enough money into it they can be fast. If you want a sports car, get an Sti or an Evo. Much better cars imho. 

 

The top gear episode where Clarkson review the GT86/FRS is pretty funny

 

 

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/jeremy-reviews-the-toyota-gt86-series-19-episode-3

 

 

at stock, this car can be quite tail happy if you use the heel/toe technique thanks to the skinny rear tires

 

it quite easy to gain hp very fast, but since it is a boxer engine, it has plenty of torque at the mid revs and it is a high revving engine

 

I currently driving the 04 Subaru Forester 2.0XT over here

 

If you do get a FRS, do yourself a fav and get rid of those god awful ricer Scion badges and replace with the proper Toyota ones.

 

many online stores carry the DIY self stick on badges

 

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/frs-gt86-toyota-emblems-403.html

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Mazda 3 speed in a dream.  In reality, test drive the hell out of some cars to get a better idea.  Also check to see if the vehicle has good service life or is if it dead in two years like a crappy Camero.  GM kills, think about it.

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it quite easy to gain hp very fast, but since it is a boxer engine, it has plenty of torque at the mid revs and it is a high revving engine

 

The mid range torque is actually one of the worst parts of the car. There's a nasty dip in torque from about 3k to 5k RPM that's noticeable during normal driving. If you're wringing the car out all the time, you probably won't notice. If you find yourself in that range though, it kinda sucks.

 

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From what I've seen, this dip can be virtually eliminated with a quality header and tune.

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The mid range torque is actually one of the worst parts of the car. There's a nasty dip in torque from about 3k to 5k RPM that's noticeable during normal driving. If you're wringing the car out all the time, you probably won't notice. If you find yourself in that range though, it kinda sucks.

 

BobsFRSARIntake3rdGear.jpg

 

From what I've seen, this dip can be virtually eliminated with a quality header and tune.

Yea that's literally where you would normally shift in a daily driven car that you aren't beating the shit out of. What were they thinking? I love how they look but they are so anemic in the powerband. It can all be solved with a turbo though. :)

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The mid range torque is actually one of the worst parts of the car. There's a nasty dip in torque from about 3k to 5k RPM that's noticeable during normal driving. If you're wringing the car out all the time, you probably won't notice. If you find yourself in that range though, it kinda sucks.

 

BobsFRSARIntake3rdGear.jpg

 

From what I've seen, this dip can be virtually eliminated with a quality header and tune.

maybe it because mine is a turbo charged?

 

my torque curve starts from around 2500 rpm range but will run out at around 4000+ rpm as mine is a TD04L made by Mitsubishi

 

I wish I can upgrade but the 4 speed auto box is the limiting factor

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Yea that's literally where you would normally shift in a daily driven car that you aren't beating the shit out of. What were they thinking? I love how they look but they are so anemic in the powerband. It can all be solved with a turbo though. :)

one damn good thing about boxers

 

if you maintained it good and don't go crazy with power or revs

 

it damn bulletproof

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I love the 240Z version

 

or the other model code used in Japan is the S30 aka the Devil Z with a L28 turbo carb engine

 

otherwise I will get the same chassis and dump a RB26DETT with the R34 GTT driveline 

 

yeah the 240Z is also a very nice car aswell :)

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@acidydragon

 

if you are picking a used Subaru 

 

feel free to ask me

 

I might be able to help you as I am driving a Subaru Forester 2.0XT which is a 2L Boxer Light Pressure Turbocharged

 

 

Personally I will pick the GDB-C or GDB-F chassis WRX STi variants

 

but chances are these models are heavily abused as they were cheap in those days and tons of mods will be done and there might have been in accidents which can be covered up easily with shoddy repair works. If you see a model that is cheap but have high mileage, be wary of it as it may have been abused.

 

Check the undercarriage for signs of damage and rust

 

 

Look for the GRB chassis version of the STi which is the 5 door hatchback as they will be newer but they can be quite heavy on fuel consumption due to the increased weight of the body. But good thing is you now have more boot space.

 

Oh almost forget, check the DCCD unit for all the STi models, they control the power distribution between the front and rear wheels. Failure of the unit will incur repair cost. For the GRB model check the SI Drive unit too.

 

 

That is my take on the STis 

 

cheers and happy car hunting   :)

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Remember to buy Manual and no auto

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Remember to buy Manual and no auto

Of course.

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Remember to buy Manual and no auto

 

 

Of course.

 

 

manual is great

 

but some models carry semi auto gearbox aka the dual clutch gearbox which is controlled by paddle shifters behind the steering wheel

 

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manual is great

 

but some models carry semi auto gearbox aka the dual clutch gearbox which is controlled by paddle shifters behind the steering wheel

It's a cheat, and a lie.

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It's a cheat, and a lie.

oh well 

 

manual it is

 

happy hunting :)

 

vote for the Scion FR-S

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oh well 

 

manual it is

 

happy hunting :)

 

vote for the Scion FR-S

I'm thinking it's going to be the FR-S, or the BRZ... More likely the BRZ.

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I'm thinking it's going to be the FR-S, or the BRZ... More likely the BRZ.

both are the same car thou

 

but the FR-S is a looker IMO

 

how much you can get for the 2 cars?

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BRZ for dem HIDs and no goofy red seat trim. Also price haggling. Some dealers are being dicks holding out for mark-ups still. Scion will gladly take your order for MSRP though. <_<

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BRZ for dem HIDs and no goofy red seat trim. Also price haggling. Some dealers are being dicks holding out for mark-ups still. Scion will gladly take your order for MSRP though. <_<

I don't know why but strangely the price of the BRZ is way cheaper than the GT86

 

http://motorimage.net/SG/buying/info/files/pricelist.pdf?id=gcjte

 

http://www.toyotasingapore.com.sg/cars/new_cars/86/price.aspx

 

 

at least you guys don't have to pay as much as I do for either models

 

US prices are more sane

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