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[flibberdipper]

35 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

if i know Flibber.  It won't be doing much on the internet

Yeah... My older builds totally never go online...

[atxcyclist]

2 hours ago, SimplyChunk said:

yeah I'm in that boat.  I've built quite a few decent, perfectly useable, 3rd/4th Gen Intel 4 core machines for older family and friends the last couple of years with the half promise that they wouldn't need to upgrade again cause "WiNdOwS 10 iS ThE lAsT wInDoWs"

I need to start getting some 2000-series Ryzen, motherboards, and ram. 8th gen and newer Intel stuff is still a bit expensive and also weaker, though getting an Intel chip with integrated graphics is much cheaper than a cheap Ryzen and a discrete Windows 11-compatible GPU.

[demonix00]

16 hours ago, atxcyclist said:

I need to start getting some 2000-series Ryzen, motherboards, and ram. 8th gen and newer Intel stuff is still a bit expensive and also weaker, though getting an Intel chip with integrated graphics is much cheaper than a cheap Ryzen and a discrete Windows 11-compatible GPU.

You do know that there are Ryzen processors on the AM4 socket that have integrated graphics and would be a lot cheaper then intel offerings.

 

Examples taken from current prices on CCLonline.com.

 

AMD Ryzen 3 4300G £73.99

intel core i3 13100 £134.99

 

Heck, you can get an R5 5600G and still be saving money over the intel i3.

[atxcyclist]

1 hour ago, demonix00 said:

You do know that there are Ryzen processors on the AM4 socket that have integrated graphics and would be a lot cheaper then intel offerings.

 

Examples taken from current prices on CCLonline.com.

 

AMD Ryzen 3 4300G £73.99

intel core i3 13100 £134.99

 

Heck, you can get an R5 5600G and still be saving money over the intel i3.

The market here in the U.S. is similar, though for most of the foreseeable builds, an 8th or 9th gen Intel or say a 3400g would be good enough; Most of these people do very basic computing tasks, but they’re also less savvy and so the need for a modern OS with protections is the most important thing rather than the newest platform.

 

For reference, one of the builds has a triple-core Phenom II chip in it, and another has a 4th gen Xeon, something like a 3400g or 8400 would be a good upgrade in performance too, especially since NVMe storage even good DRAM drives are relatively cheap, same with reasonably-quick DDR4 2x8gb kits.

[flibberdipper]

8 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

The market here in the U.S. is similar, though for most of the foreseeable builds, an 8th or 9th gen Intel or say a 3400g would be good enough; Most of these people do very basic computing tasks, but they’re also less savvy and so the need for a modern OS with protections is the most important thing rather than the newest platform.

 

For reference, one of the builds has a triple-core Phenom II chip in it, and another has a 4th gen Xeon, something like a 3400g or 8400 would be a good upgrade in performance too, especially since NVMe storage even good DRAM drives are relatively cheap, same with reasonably-quick DDR4 2x8gb kits.

Honestly, even going as far back as Haswell i5's and i7's are surprisingly competent, so long as you aren't trying to run FS2020/CP2077/CSII on 'em. I'm very excited because here soon I should have the 6700K and GTX 970 that are on their way to me, and it should make for a very interesting build. I fully plan on kicking my 12600KF and RTX 2080 largely to the curb for a couple days since realistically, they'll cope just fine until I whip out the games I've been playing as of late.

[Bitter]

59 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

Honestly, even going as far back as Haswell i5's and i7's are surprisingly competent, so long as you aren't trying to run FS2020/CP2077/CSII on 'em. I'm very excited because here soon I should have the 6700K and GTX 970 that are on their way to me, and it should make for a very interesting build. I fully plan on kicking my 12600KF and RTX 2080 largely to the curb for a couple days since realistically, they'll cope just fine until I whip out the games I've been playing as of late.

The gulf between 4th and 6th gen is embarrassingly small because it was during the "We don't need to do better because what are you going to do, buy AMD? " years at Intel. Honestly in IPC Zen+ is pretty even with 4th gen Intel. I just retired my 4950HQ system for a 4350G and CPU wise they're pretty matched but the 1650S is a wee faster than the 4GB GTX 960. The 4950HQ was overclocked a bit where as the 4350G isn't at all but they feel about the same, slight edge to the 4350G tho maybe since it's got faster RAM but the Intel was rocking 16GB of 1866. Meh. I'll miss the cool factor of a laptop CPU overclocked in a desktop board a lot and the idle/low load power use was amazing. Idled under 1W!

[atxcyclist]

1 hour ago, flibberdipper said:

Honestly, even going as far back as Haswell i5's and i7's are surprisingly competent, so long as you aren't trying to run FS2020/CP2077/CSII on 'em. I'm very excited because here soon I should have the 6700K and GTX 970 that are on their way to me, and it should make for a very interesting build. I fully plan on kicking my 12600KF and RTX 2080 largely to the curb for a couple days since realistically, they'll cope just fine until I whip out the games I've been playing as of late.

A lot of old systems are plenty good, it’s just the security requirements for Windows 11 that will be an issue. The good news is that’s still nearly two years away, and the oldest compatible platforms will be even cheaper by then. None of the people that will need builds are gamers, as long as their hardware will be supported for a while it’s all good. 

[flibberdipper]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

The gulf between 4th and 6th gen is embarrassingly small because it was during the "We don't need to do better because what are you going to do, buy AMD? " years at Intel. Honestly in IPC Zen+ is pretty even with 4th gen Intel. I just retired my 4950HQ system for a 4350G and CPU wise they're pretty matched but the 1650S is a wee faster than the 4GB GTX 960. The 4950HQ was overclocked a bit where as the 4350G isn't at all but they feel about the same, slight edge to the 4350G tho maybe since it's got faster RAM but the Intel was rocking 16GB of 1866. Meh. I'll miss the cool factor of a laptop CPU overclocked in a desktop board a lot and the idle/low load power use was amazing. Idled under 1W!

I notice it, surprisingly. My only comparable CPUs of reference have been a 3770, 4820K, 4690K, and 6400, but each one (minus the 4820K) have a noticeable boost in perceived responsiveness.

 

43 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

A lot of old systems are plenty good, it’s just the security requirements for Windows 11 that will be an issue. The good news is that’s still nearly two years away, and the oldest compatible platforms will be even cheaper by then. None of the people that will need builds are gamers, as long as their hardware will be supported for a while it’s all good. 

Realistically, the security requirements aren't even that big of a deal as long as the workarounds remain for them (which they probably will for quite a long time). My current capture PC is an OptiPlex 9020 with a 4690K and Windows 11 runs just fine on it. It doesn't feel as fast as my Precision 3420 with the 6400 that runs Windows 10, which is expected given it's Skylake, however it's also got faster RAM (1333MHz? DDR3 vs 2133MHz DDR4) and an NVMe SSD instead of some random ass SATA SSD. That might change though since at some point in the next year I plan on also getting that system onto Windows 11...

[Bitter]

4 hours ago, flibberdipper said:

I notice it, surprisingly. My only comparable CPUs of reference have been a 3770, 4820K, 4690K, and 6400, but each one (minus the 4820K) have a noticeable boost in perceived responsiveness.

 

I have more than a few times swapped a SSD between systems with 1st Gen i7, 4th Gen i7, 4th Gen i5, Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, 8th gen, 6th Gen. The biggest differences were between 1st and 4th and 8th gen, 6th gen didn't feel any much different than 4th gen. Zen to Zen+ was small but there, better boosting behavior but Zen+ to Zen2 was a very noticeable difference. Overclocking cheap Zen or Zen+ APU's like 2200G or 3200G is pretty rewarding in terms of gains, very big jumps in speed there for how cheap they are.

[Avocado Diaboli]

A couple of games from the Steam sales. I already have hundreds of unplayed games in my library, but a lot of them are from bundles and I don't particularly care to play most of them. These I intend to actually play and they're already installed so I'm reminded to actually do that. Since I've been replaying Half-Life 2 and its episodes, I'm particularly excited for Alyx.

 

[SimplyChunk]

New door mat for my new flat.  

 

I know the flooring looks a bit scruffy but the stairs and landing are going to be carpeted so it'll be ok.  Hoping to have laminate in the bedroom and living room.

 

Also paid for a huge 2000mm x 750mm computer desk.  It's second hand but looks neat enough and has hollow legs with a massive cable catcher along the whole length for cable management  £15 for the desk and £30 to have it delivered and brought upstairs for me.  Something like that new would easily be £250+ before you got to delivery.  Should be able to fit both my main shooter and my retro PC on that

[8tg]

Microshift adventX 10 speed cassette, derailleur and shifter

Just need the replacement rear tube, the chain, and the hope crankset and bb I want to put on this but the ixf one will be a temporary stand in

[Rarity]

 

got a PS5(just nice , also there was a promo , so price was lower abit ) over the holidays and these 2 Star Ocean games for the ps5,been a fan of them since i first played the Ps2 Star Ocean 3 game  . and the 2nd pic , not my purchase but my brother buying it for use in the farm . never thought i`ll actually see one for real 

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[Senzelian]

NH-D12L for my 4U rack case and a Focusrite Solo Gen4

 

 

[SimplyChunk]

2 hours ago, Senzelian said:

Focusrite Solo Gen4

I've been looking at Scarlets to replace my Audiobox USB96.  The noise floor on it is so high.  I have an all black USB96 too and that's even noisier.  I use it to drive 48V through my AT2020 and to power my Sennheiser HD599.  Is your Scarlet any good?

[8tg]

I’m almost done shitting up this thread with bike stuff

got my replacement tube, it now looks like a bike

all I need is a chain and it’s rideable, though I am still waiting on the better hope crankset and bottom bracket to replace the cheap stand in crankset 

 

got these granite juicy nipples as they are legitimately named, valve stem covers for presta valves

and got this PDW sparrow water bottle cage which looks neat imo, it’s a bird

 

also got these, a usb c charging brick for a cd player I ordered, and regular old EarPods, to have a sense of reference against my $1000 iems and $500 dac/amp

[sub68]

18 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

I've been looking at Scarlets to replace my Audiobox USB96.  The noise floor on it is so high.  I have an all black USB96 too and that's even noisier.  I use it to drive 48V through my AT2020 and to power my Sennheiser HD599.  Is your Scarlet any good?

I have a older scarlett gen 3 and used older ones gen 2 they are pretty clean

[Andreas Lilja]

Just bought this for only NHL, got a hockey craving. Last PC iteration was released in 2008.

[atxcyclist]

4 hours ago, Andreas Lilja said:

Just bought this for only NHL, got a hockey craving. Last PC iteration was released in 2008.

 

The new Series X|S consoles are awesome, and though I thought nothing of this when I purchased a Series X last month, beyond gaming it has replaced all of the smart TV functionality in my display; It’s so much better than the versions of players/apps natively in my TV. 

[SimplyChunk]

First part of my mad microphone mounting system is here.

This puts a 1/4 thread on the hot shoe of my 100D that i use as a webcam.  Just waiting on the 3/8 down to 1/4 adapter to go in the bottom of my microphone mount now.

 

I got a question about the 1/4 hot shoe mount.  It's metal.  It should be ok in the 100D shouldn't it?

[Paddo]

23 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

I got a question about the 1/4 hot shoe mount.  It's metal.  It should be ok in the 100D shouldn't it?

Should be fine. The small pins are for communication and the larger pin is only active when the shutter button gets pressed all the way down. To Quote from a different forum "One major use is the large center pin. The camera shutter shorts that pin to ground to trigger the flash in sync with shutter. This shorts the flash sync voltage from the flash, signaling to the flash to trigger then."

[SimplyChunk]

3 minutes ago, Paddo said:

Should be fine. The small pins are for communication and the larger pin is only active when the shutter button gets pressed all the way down. To Quote from a different forum "One major use is the large center pin. The camera shutter shorts that pin to ground to trigger the flash in sync with shutter. This shorts the flash sync voltage from the flash, signaling to the flash to trigger then."

so in theory, the flash is the power source for that center pin.  the camera doesn't send any power to it at all.  good to know.  Thank you

[Paddo]

11 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

so in theory, the flash is the power source for that center pin.  the camera doesn't send any power to it at all.  good to know.  Thank you

That's how I understand it but it has been a while since I tinkered with cameras. To be extra safe you could always meassure the voltage between center pin and ground (should be the metal rails) while idle and when pressing the shutter button.

[Senzelian]

14 hours ago, SimplyChunk said:

I've been looking at Scarlets to replace my Audiobox USB96.  The noise floor on it is so high.  I have an all black USB96 too and that's even noisier.  I use it to drive 48V through my AT2020 and to power my Sennheiser HD599.  Is your Scarlet any good?

It's good enough for me. I like good audio, but I'm no audiophile. My DT900 ProX sound great and no one has complained about the mic quality on discord yet

[Skyesgaming]

So unfortunately the PSU on my dads computer died a few days ago. When I had built him a new one I didn't change the PSU in it (bad idea I know but it was just temporary anyways). So I bought him a new one and it came in today. Going to get it installed in the next few minutes and... and make sure that the old PSU didn't take anything with it... and... and cable... cable management. 

 

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I wanna do something fun, not something that'll make me cry... but here we go.