[Rumor] GTX Titan II

[jmaster299]

Nvidia working on the next version of the GTX Titan, right now being called the Titan II. It's rumored to have more than 4000 Cuda Cores with a 512-bit memory bus. Yes I know people hate on the Titan because they don't understand the limited/niche market for it. But if Nvidia repeats what they did with the 780 Ti, we will get a more consumer friendly version of it. The 780 Ti and Titan Black pack 2880 Cuda Cores, so if the "over 4000 Cuda Cores" rumor stays true, that's at least a 39% increase in processing cores.

Quote:

"An Nvidia product going by the description of a “GM200 A1 Graphics Processor” has been spotted in shipment from Taiwan to Bangalore where it will arrive at an Nvidia facility for further testing. The A1 stepping signifies the pre-production status of the chip and it will be upgraded to an A2 stepping before being pushed into mass production for the consumer market. According to the source the GM200/GK210 codename GPU will be built on the 28nm fabrication process using Maxwell architecture. GM200/GK210 is rumoured to feature over 4000 CUDA cores and a widened memory bus of 512 bits. Given the size of the 28nm process this new GPU will be very larger, over 600 mm². Nvidia will have to rely on the efficiency gains of the Maxwell architecture in order to keep such a large chip running cool. The GM200/GK210 GPU will form the next generation of Titan flagship, for now called the GTX Titan II. Expect the launch to be in the first half of 2015."

http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-preparing-gtx-titan-ii-over-4000-cuda-cores-and-512-bit-bus/

[BonBon Scott]

GTX Titan: Return of the cuda cores

[Katsu-K1L]

is the website trusted? well if its true then idk fuck it its not like il buy it lol.

[jmaster299]

Eteknix is trusted, can't say for 3DCenter.

[aidenrelkoff]

because you know, we totally need more gpus to spend money on............ because its probably gotnna be like $1500, so why not get a Titan Z for double that and then u also get 2 gpus....

[harrynowl]

 

 

Nvidia will have to rely on the efficiency gains of the Maxwell architecture in order to keep such a large chip running cool. The GM200/GK210 GPU will form the next generation of Titan flagship

Well if it's GK210 it isn't Maxwell surely?

 

GF110 = Fermi

GK110 = Kepler

GM107 = Maxwell (750ti)

GK210 = Maxwell...? According to article.

 

So I'd assume it'd be GM210 to make sense. (I believe the 'big' silicone GPUs with large die size are usualy 110s).

[Shd0w2]

quad titan II's

 

you know yo uwant it

[jmaster299]

Well if it's GK210 it isn't Maxwell surely?

 

GF110 = Fermi

GK110 = Kepler

GK210 = Maxwell...?

 

So I'd assume it'd be GM210 to make sense.

Yes it is because Maxwell has been changed due to the delay at TSMC with the production of 20nm chips. We already the 750 Ti that uses a modified 28nm Kepler chip under the Maxwell "GM" name. Rumor is that because of the delay, which has since been fixed, Nvidia is going to skip 20nm for their GPUs. Supposedly we will get redesigned 28nm chips under the 800 series and Maxwell name and in a year or less time we Nvidia will jump to 16nm chips. Possibly keeping the 800 series name plate with some added identifier to separate them from the cards with 28nm chips.

The rumor that Nvidia is skipping the 20nm chips is also supported by the fact that Apple is now being given first priority for 20nm chips for their next set of iPhones and iPads coming in September. TSMC has already stated delivering those chips to Apple.

[Sauron]

This isn't good news, it just means that the best maxwell chip will be locked behind a 1000$ paywall for months before we get a gaming version and that will be expensive as heck too. It's not like I'll be upgrading my r9 290 anytime soon, but still.

[GamerPatriot]

Is this even necessary? I mean are games evolving that fast to use all of this cuda cores? 

[jmaster299]

Is this even necessary? I mean are games evolving that fast to use all of this cuda cores? 

Yes, especially with 4K becoming more common and affordable. A 780 Ti, which again has the same number of Cuda Cores as a Titan Black, can barely maintain 60fps at 1440p, and can't come close to 60fps at 4K. Not unless you significantly reduce the quality settings.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,23.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,25.html

[TERAFLOP]

Titan II only for $1999.

[darkspeedy26]

Is this even necessary? I mean are games evolving that fast to use all of this cuda cores? 

these high end cards aren't really meant for gaming

 

edit: or you can use them for 4K

[harrynowl]

Yes it is because Maxwell has been changed due to the delay at TSMC with the production of 20nm chips. We already the 750 Ti that uses a modified 28nm Kepler chip under the Maxwell "GM" name. Rumor is that because of the delay, which has since been fixed, Nvidia is going to skip 20nm for their GPUs. Supposedly we will get redesigned 28nm chips under the 800 series and Maxwell name and in a year or less time we Nvidia will jump to 16nm chips. Possibly keeping the 800 series name plate with some added identifier to separate them from the cards with 28nm chips.

The rumor that Nvidia is skipping the 20nm chips is also supported by the fact that Apple is now being given first priority for 20nm chips for their next set of iPhones and iPads coming in September. TSMC has already stated delivering those chips to Apple.

I'm slightly confused 

 

GM107 = 28nm Maxwell

GK210 = 28nm Maxwell

 

I must be missing something important here 

 

 

[GamerPatriot]

Yes, especially with 4K becoming more common and affordable. A 780 Ti, which again has the same number of Cuda Cores as a Titan Black, can barely maintain 60fps at 1440p, and can't come close to 60fps at 4K. Not unless you significantly reduce the quality settings.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,23.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,25.html

 

 

these high end cards aren't really meant for gaming

 

edit: or you can use them for 4K

 

 

Ok I see now. Well it looks like we will have to sell some organs to afford it. 

[jmaster299]

 

I'm slightly confused 

 

GM107 = 28nm Maxwell

GK210 = 28nm Maxwell

 

I must be missing something important here 

 

 

 

GK210 is Kepler, NOT Maxwell. You misread what they are saying. They never said it was Maxwell. The quote you provided only said that "GM200/GK210 will form the next generation of Titan flagship". These first Maxwell chips are nothing more than modified Kepler chips, so what they are saying is the GM200 will be based off of a modified GK210. We also mays see a modified GK210 chip, under the GM210 name, with the same lower 2880 Cuda Core count that will benefit from the higher efficiency and lower temps that all the GM chips are supposed to have.

 

 

Ok I see now. Well it looks like we will have to sell some organs to afford it. 

 

Not necessarily. The 28nm being old technology are actually cheaper to manufacture now,. Which happens with all chips, they get cheaper to make over time. the rumors floating around almost all say these first 800 series cards will be less expensive than their 700 series counterparts.

[harrynowl]

GK210 is Kepler, NOT Maxwell. You misread what they are saying. They never said it was Maxwell. The quote you provided only said that "GM200/GK210 will form the next generation of Titan flagship". These first Maxwell chips are nothing more than modified Kepler chips, so what they are saying is the GM200 will be based off of a modified GK210. We also mays see a modified GK210 chip, under the GM210 name, with the same lower 2880 Cuda Core count that will benefit from the higher efficiency and lower temps that all the GM chips are supposed to have.

In the article:

According to the source the GM200/GK210 codename GPU will be built on the 28nm fabrication process using Maxwell architecture

But the 2nd part of your post makes more sense to me, thank you. As they changed how the streaming multiprocessors are made in blocks of 32 so each Maxwell unit is 128 CUDA cores down from 192 in Kepler.

 

Took me a while to figure out why it was different but I got there

[Misanthrope]

I'm surprised the rumor doesn't includes Nvidia partnering with a few hospitals to remove a kidney as payment for it.

[jmaster299]

In the article:

But the 2nd part of your post makes more sense to me, thank you. As they changed how the streaming multiprocessors are made in blocks of 32 so each Maxwell unit is 128 CUDA cores down from 192 in Kepler.

 

Took me a while to figure out why it was different but I got there

You are still misunderstanding what they are saying. By saying "GM200/GK210" they are saying "The GM200, which is based off the GK210, will use the Maxwell architecture.". Which is exactly what I said as well. All of these new chips are modified Kepler chips but will use the GM and 800 series name.

[ACatWithThumbs]

Maxwell has 1,5x more performance per Cuda Core compared to Kepler.
If it actually has 4000 Cuda Cores we are talking here around 10Tflops or about 2,5x GTX780 TI performance.
It would make sense tho because such a card would be actually able to play games in 4K.

 

[deviant88]

Its over 4000aaand!!

[landon418]

Needs 9000+

[Victorious Secret]

Will we have 2 dozen threads a week about people complaining how its too expensive when they can't even afford it and all they'd use it for is surfing Facebook?

[flibberdipper]

I'll take all of them.

[jmaster299]

Maxwell has 1,5x more performance per Cuda Core compared to Kepler.

If it actually has 4000 Cuda Cores we are talking here around 10Tflops or about 2,5x GTX780 TI performance.

It would make sense tho because such a card would be actually able to play games in 4K.

 

A little off on your numbers, Nvidia says it's 135%, or 1.35x, not 1.5x. Also have to keep in mind those numbers are typically inflated. But either way it's not 1.5x.