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I've never had bad luck with MSI. The new gaming series is the first I've heard so much bad news about.

Msi has always been bad....some people get lucky with them, most dont

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Msi has always been bad....some people get lucky with them, most dont

that's not what newegg and amazon reviews stretching back the last 4 years say. In fact Asrock has had more 3-star and lower boards,

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I've never had bad luck with MSI. The new gaming series is the first I've heard so much bad news about.

Yah I don't exactly consider them top of the line, but I've never had one break and I've had a couple. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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Yah I don't exactly consider them top of the line, but I've never had one break and I've had a couple. 

Frankly I don't consider Asus top of the line (nor Macbook Pro even though I now own one for my research purposes). It's certainly the most expensive, but I've had Asus boards fail me in the past. Back when we still had northbridge chipsets I had two melt on me even just playing Guild Wars and surfing the web, and the room it was kept in only got to standard room temperature (70F). It had 4 good Aerocool fans going and I made sure to blow out the dust every month. Still the north chipset melted on two high-end gaming boards.

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Msi has always been bad....some people get lucky with them, most dont

I still trust them a bit more than Asrock

I do say I had an AM3 msi board that survived a major power supply failure. I mean the kind that burns the connector and even destroyed an expansion card.

I think MSI actually used to be decent quality, and have fallen quite a bit.

Frankly I don't consider Asus top of the line (nor Macbook Pro even though I now own one for my research purposes). It's certainly the most expensive, but I've had Asus boards fail me in the past. Back when we still had northbridge chipsets I had two melt on me even just playing Guild Wars and surfing the web, and the room it was kept in only got to standard room temperature (70F). It had 4 good Aerocool fans going and I made sure to blow out the dust every month. Still the north chipset melted on two high-end gaming boards.

I do consider Asus nice, but worth the money? Idk. Their customer service is the worst I have ever dealt with. Melting like that is inexcusable though.

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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I do consider Asus nice, but worth the money? Idk. Their customer service is the worst I have ever dealt with. Melting like that is inexcusable though. 

Back then their customer service was better. We could get a replacement in 3 days after a call. They would ship a replacement board as we shipped our dead one. They were better times.

Software Engineer for Suncorp (Australia), Computer Tech Enthusiast, Miami University Graduate, Nerd

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I do consider Asus nice, but worth the money? Idk. Their customer service is the worst I have ever dealt with. Melting like that is inexcusable though. 

Their customer service gets better, if u live in Taiwan...else they're just really slow....

 

Want good customer service and good motherboards? EVGA is the answer :)

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Their customer service gets better, if u live in Taiwan...else they're just really slow....

Want good customer service and good motherboards? EVGA is the answer :)

Too bad they don't make any decent Z97 ATX boards.

As per MSI, These people seem to like the newest line with no problems.

http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770&cm_re=msi_gaming_5-_-13-130-770-_-Product

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Too bad they don't make any decent Z97 ATX boards.

they do, the EVGA Z97 Classified is amazing! and it's just black colored as well, which also makes it nice looking...red and black is boring

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they do, the EVGA Z97 Classified is amazing! and it's just black colored as well, which also makes it nice looking...red and black is boring

That would be EATX, not ATX. And that's still WAY overpriced for the given features. MSI gives you better audio and fiber optic with all the same other features (except the 2 mini display ports, not that anyone with that board will use onboard connections) on an ATX form factor for $120 less!

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I still trust them a bit more than Asrock

I do say I had an AM3 msi board that survived a major power supply failure. I mean the kind that burns the connector and even destroyed an expansion card.

I think MSI actually used to be decent quality, and have fallen quite a bit.

I do consider Asus nice, but worth the money? Idk. Their customer service is the worst I have ever dealt with. Melting like that is inexcusable though.

Well, was it cooled with a good heatsink?

If yes then that was a horrible job on Asus' part

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Personally .. I like AMD's GPUs (Former ATI) .. but I don't like their CPUs .. They are power hungry, not as efficient as Intel and have hell confusing naming schemes ..

 

Basically, you get what you pay for .. you want cheap, AMD does it .. you want quality .. Intel does it better .. 

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