DLSS 5

[Black_Mage]

So instead of looking forward to new GPUs with real performance improvements, we get a new version of DLSS with more gimmicks. I want the old NVidia back that sold new GPUs that made a noticeable difference in game performance without relying on fake frames and upscaling. 

 

 

[GuiltySpark_]

Was wondering how long it would take for these threads to show up. 

 

Frankly, what was shown today looks bad, straight up. 

 

What kills me is the use of the DLSS name. Deep Learning Super Sampling. What beginners don't understand and never will if Nvidia keeps this up, is DLSS isn't one thing, its a collection of tools that can be used independently. Most of which (until now) are fantastic for high resolution gamers. I was blown away in 2020 with even the terrible 1.0 iteration of DLSS-SR and was made a believer. Cyberpunk became playable on my 2080 Super @ 3440x1440. 

 

DLSS-SR (Super Resolution) = Upscaling

DLSS-RR (Ray Reconstruction) = game changing RT/PT denoiser

DLSS-FG (Frame Generation / MFG) = Frame generation that actually works when used correctly

 

And now... a completely unasked for beauty filter that gets put under the same DLSS name, further ruining its reputation that's mostly due to the clueless not understanding their poor naming scheme.

[Biohazard777]

Reminds of AI Jesus spam on Facebook a few years back. 

Also:
"....in just a few weeks. It exceeded what Linux did in 30 years, and is it that important",
Jensen proceeds to show ubuntu & a terminal command to get openclaw 

 

[GuiltySpark_]

I said all that but then I just read this. Definitely put some things in perspective. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out in the real world.
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/sbVyyood8Q

[Black_Mage]

56 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

Reminds of AI Jesus spam on Facebook a few years back. 

Also:
"....in just a few weeks. It exceeded what Linux did in 30 years, and is it that important",
Jensen proceeds to show ubuntu & a terminal command to get openclaw 

 

He was simply talking about the number of users Openclaw has. He wasn't saying Openclaw is more important than Linux. 

[Mark Kaine]

34 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I said all that but then I just read this. Definitely put some things in perspective. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out in the real world.
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/sbVyyood8Q

That's the thing, he can write whatever he wants, what they showed was:  inconsistent face chatgpt "beauty" filter, with the worst lighting ever...

 

And that's how it's gonna get used for the next 6.5 years, devs becoming even more lazy (there, I said it, doesn't matter if they really are or not, their employers force them to be as lazy as possible as all money must go into marketing!)

 

This is a loss/loss situation, get this AI/Instagram filter out of my games lol, tyvm.

[thrasher_565]

"nvidea guy in black leather" what you don't have cloud gaming

 

"red shirt guy" to bad no one will own a gpu to use it...

 

"nvidea guy in black leather" dlss 5 works with are new cloud gaming starting at $50 a month

 

8k 1000fps 10gbit wireless -1ms response with this green box that only cost $29.69 a month  

 game saves will be deleted after cancelling takes 3 moths to canclle  

 

look at how many gpus we crammed in the one u...

 

(after watching the video)

 

"linux warier" but will it game?

[starsmine]

has to be one of the worst things nvidia has shown off in... I honestly don't know the fact that they could do worse then the way they advertised FG with lies floors me. 

Now they want to say devs do have control of DLSS 5. Cool. now the artists are obligated to spend hundreds of hours on making sure  DLSS 5 that only runs on nvidia cards doesnt absolutly trash the look of the game. Fuck all the way off? These games are on other platforms. this is actually worse then any vendor locked tech any team has put out. 

Its not about it not being a face filter that was information we understood from the start. the whole ambience of a scene is trashed. Oblivon doesnt look like Tamriel. SSAO is wiped out on everything. This is fucking bad. 

 

  

2 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I said all that but then I just read this. Definitely put some things in perspective. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out in the real world.
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/sbVyyood8Q

Perspective of disapointment. that is a whole lot of bullshit spin. They even have their PR guy lie and say capcom did Grace when no one from capcom is claiming they were fine with what was there.  

[whispous]

I'm disgusted that this feeds into the 60-iq crowd's demand that "more realistic is better". It's an intensely stupid mindset fit only for cattle as it displays a fundamental inability to have a basic grasp of what art is, which should be considered a key part of the human condition.

 

On top of that, the examples in the video demo just makes every face look like uncanny-valley UE5 slop.

[jaslion]

5 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out in the real world.

I went it to see the details the guy mentioned and well fair stuff "pops" from the background more, however this was already a solved issue decades ago and basically comes down to using real time, semi real time and baked lighting options correctly. Not just chucking a object in space and hoping whatever shaders and lighting you use work it out.

 

Another not is that when you ignore the obviously wrongly lit face compared to the enviroment you see that almost everything gets different lighting its basically back to the ps2 where most lighting was baked and you get those sometimes disconnected scenes where things do not line up with where the light is coming from.

 

I agree fully with you that this is not dlss. This is just a real time post processing ai filter. Which makes either yassified slop or uncanny valley garbage as suddenly the charachter and scene do not align anymore at all.

 

Its gonna be used heavily to cheapen dev time by publishers and if it looka bad oh well it was cheaper.

[whispous]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

semi real time and baked lighting options correctly. Not just chucking a object in space and hoping whatever shaders and lighting you use work it out.

PREACH

 

 

Ray Tracing in games has been an expensive re-invention of the wheel. Source 2 games look gorgeous with zero ray tracing: Just artists getting it right.

[Winterlight]

Let me guess and it 100% will be exclusive to RTX 5000 series. Like they did with frame gen x3, x4 mode exlusive to RTX 5000 even it coudl run without any problem on RTX 4000 but they don't want allow due than it mean less people upgrade to new gen. Probably even RTX 3000 series could run at least x2 mode no problem. For example 4090 have about x4 time more AI compute power than 5060 but for some mysterious reason it can't run x3 or x4 frame gen mode while 5060 can with x4 time less AI compute power.

[xAcid9]

Seems like a glorified Reshade. Great if they give extensive options to tweak the output. 
Also great if this work on older games. 

[jaslion]

4 hours ago, whispous said:

PREACH

 

 

Ray Tracing in games has been an expensive re-invention of the wheel. Source 2 games look gorgeous with zero ray tracing: Just artists getting it right.

My fav is still xenoblade chronicles X. It has real time, semi real time and static shadow maps and ao. It also does something REALLY smart for its day and night cycle. It has multiple shadow maps that are prerendered and are swapped between depending on time of day. If a player keeps looking at them it wont refresh or will try a fade between. But the game is all about moving around the world so this case rarely comes up.

 

Like genuinly go look at the game on the wii U. A console with a gimped hd 4850 and a tri core overclocked GAMECUBE cpu. The game looks GREAT even to this day it looks GOOD and it runs on a fuckin wii u of all things. Its all entirelt possible to have great looking graphics to whatever metric people wanna hold that AND have a game run well. However costs can be cut and well yeah thats the end of the story. We have stunning games these days that are optimized its entirely possible.

[porina]

I'll go against the grain here: I don't have any problem with it existing. The samples provided so far look interesting. I do think some characters look better for it, and some are not to my taste. Like, dial it back a bit and it could be ok. Parallels with early RT where everything was wet or shiny. For environments, they certainly look different, but I'd need more examples to tell if I prefer one or not. I don't find any obvious problem with it, but I don't have a problem without either.

 

A contradiction in games has always been, it's meant to be an escape from the real world, but at the same time, there is a push for "realism" whatever that means. I'm fine that things don't have to be realistic. Most of the games I'm currently active in are anime aesthetic, so this will do nothing for those. If a dev officially blesses it, then we can take that as artistic intent. Unofficial use will be like those who use other filters or graphical mods. Do what you want, but it isn't "official". 

 

On how many people could make use of it, following from Jan 2026 Steam Hardware Survey. Not using Feb since that was a a glitch month.

Nvidia users: 73%

RTX users: 58%

50 series users: 11%

40 series users: 22%

30 series users: 20%

20 series users: 5%

 

NV share is probably as accurate as the survey can be. The other lines are sum of reported GPUs. GPUs below reporting threshold will not be counted and the true number could be higher.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

13 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I said all that but then I just read this. Definitely put some things in perspective. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this shakes out in the real world.
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/sbVyyood8Q

So "just buy it"?  

What you linked to is a disingenuous take. It follows the usual pattern of building a strawman ("it's all about the faces!"), then engaging in a one-sided argument of "the other things", ignoring every criticism to "the other things" already brought up.

SImplifying:
1. The internet: "faces change, not just "improve", and the environment looks worse, lighting regresses."

2. The take: "oh, I get that faces stand out, but look, this is about more than just the faces! Let me now Jensensplain to you how the environment and the lighting  are also changing, even you didn't notice!

3. The internet: dude, that was one of our complaints...

 

Also, the point that major studios are on board, so that should "tell you something"... Tell me what? These are the same guys that were on board with loot boxes, GAAS, you'll own nothing an be happy, kernel-level anticheat... Whether they adopt it or not is not a positive argument per se. In fact, that's what many are concerned about that they'll adopt it to spend less effort in creating detailed model and let AI "reconstruct" some generic higher quality models based their minimal input.

[GuiltySpark_]

7 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

So "just buy it"?  

 

No?

 

I'm simply willing to wait and see what happens with actual games I play in real scenarios. I don't really care about anything else. I hate what I saw yesterday but I have to imagine reality will be different. My gut reaction was some sort of beauty filter thats just on/off under user control. Stupid as hell and under the DLSS name was a bad move. Using existing games that people know well was also tone deaf as hell. 

 

 

I am also aware of nuance. I can see that maybe, just maybe, the atrocity that was presented in a 30 second demo isn't the full picture.

 

Anyway, I don't care about the external politics, just gaming. 

[Nord1ing]

NVIDIA speak about high fidelity etc.

 

At the same, a good game in 2026:

 

[MadAnt250]

Ah yes... Something I will not use, because I cannot use it, but don't want it anyway. 

 

In other news, Burger King is selling the Whopper for $3.99 on Wednesdays. 

[starsmine]

Man, DF goign "we should have waited for other peoples opinion before saying our own" is such cop out bullshit that throws everything the publish into the garbage bin

yes their original opinion was ass, and it should be relooked at, but backing down in this specific way makes the legitamacy of all other reporting they had, go out the window. You dont report your opinion to match others. 

[Biohazard777]

On 3/17/2026 at 5:23 AM, Black_Mage said:

He was simply talking about the number of users Openclaw has. He wasn't saying Openclaw is more important than Linux. 

Was he?
"The importance is profound"
"And it is that important, it is that important"
Goes so far to compare openclaw to an OS... even throws in Windows later on. 

[SirEMD]

DLSS 5 is the biggest change in a subject matter since the caveman looked at bread and thought hmm.. maybe i should slice this and make toast! 

[Chaotic_]

Not the uneducated gnats calling everything *sLoP* people feel the dame way for every revolutionary tech in its infancy lol. 

 

This is the future of rendering and a quantum leap in quality , get used to it

[OddOod]

On 3/16/2026 at 8:38 PM, Black_Mage said:

So instead of looking forward to new GPUs with real performance improv

TBH, given memory pricing, you really don't want a new generation of GPUs right now. 

4 hours ago, Chaotic_ said:

Not the uneducated gnats calling everything *sLoP* people feel the dame way for every revolutionary tech in its infancy lol. 

 

This is the future of rendering and a quantum leap in quality , get used to it

lol, I'd hate to call anyone an AI shill, but if the duck quacks....
Anyway, you're not 1000% wrong about nascent technologies being dismissed as unnecessary, but by and large the collective opinion of emerging tech isn't wrong until it starts addressing actual intransigent problems and AI really ain't there yet. Not that I don't believe it won't get there eventually, but yeah, currently the vast majority of the output of these AIs *is* slop. It's garbage. Garbage that was extremely expensive to create. And expensive in a TON of ways. Not only is this bubble causing the umpteenth computing part shortage, it's also sucking back an appreciable percentage (~5%) of the global power supply. And that's not even mentioning the unholy amount of perfectly drinkable water that is being yeeted into the atmosphere just to keep the chips cool. The expenses are myriad and recursive and, again, all for what? What manifest, unequivocal *good* has come out of this "revolution"?

[Mark Kaine]

On 3/24/2026 at 7:48 PM, OddOod said:

TBH, given memory pricing, you really don't want a new generation of GPUs right now. 

TBH it's mostly nGreedia's doing, they allegedly have warehouses full of RAM, they could throw gamers a bone...

 

(idc if it's "fast super ram" ... then just use that )

 

NO NO, you see DLSS5, with two RTX 5090 no less, solves all the issues, thank you Mr. Jacketman!