DLSS 5

[starsmine]

17 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

TBH it's mostly nGreedia's doing, they allegedly have warehouses full of RAM, they could throw gamers a bone...

 

(idc if it's "fast super ram" ... then just use that )

 

NO NO, you see DLSS5, with two RTX 5090 no less, solves all the issues, thank you Mr. Jacketman!  

where is this warehouse?

 

Also AI workloads are often bandwidth limited. 

[porina]

On 3/24/2026 at 6:48 PM, OddOod said:

TBH, given memory pricing, you really don't want a new generation of GPUs right now. 

What are the assumptions leading to this? By that, I mean it could be the case depending on how you frame it.

 

For example, made up scenarios here, say the 6070 16GB replaces to 5070 12GB. That extra 4GB is going to hurt gen on gen pricing and people will complain. Well, they complain about everything anyway. But say we go from 5070 Ti 16GB to 6070 Ti 16GB but it is faster, there wont be an incremental cost due to VRAM capacity itself. But there will be the usual moans about if 16GB is enough or not.

 

Basically if a new gen were to release in the near future, they might scale back on VRAM quantity that some want to try and contain pricing. I personally wouldn't say no to faster at same VRAM and "like for like" cost. Forget historic pricing since unless you happen to have time machine, that's long gone. What can you get the outgoing model for vs incoming?

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, porina said:

What are the assumptions leading to this? By that, I mean it could be the case depending on how you frame it.

 

For example, made up scenarios here, say the 6070 16GB replaces to 5070 12GB. That extra 4GB is going to hurt gen on gen pricing and people will complain. Well, they complain about everything anyway. But say we go from 5070 Ti 16GB to 6070 Ti 16GB but it is faster, there wont be an incremental cost due to VRAM capacity itself. But there will be the usual moans about if 16GB is enough or not.

 

Basically if a new gen were to release in the near future, they might scale back on VRAM quantity that some want to try and contain pricing. I personally wouldn't say no to faster at same VRAM and "like for like" cost. Forget historic pricing since unless you happen to have time machine, that's long gone. What can you get the outgoing model for vs incoming?

Instead of hampering user experience we should go after the RAM cartels instead...

 

 

 

Do y'all still watch GN or too much "journalism"? 

 

(I know for sure @starsmine doesn't watch because he has yet to address a single thing regarding the "ram mafia" ... now he wants to know where the warehouses are... smh)

[OddOod]

9 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

TBH it's mostly nGreedia's doing, they allegedly have warehouses full of RAM, they could throw gamers a bone...

....wat?
[citation needed]
If NV were warehousing ram chips, they'd be instantly sued by their shareholders for not capitalizing on their market position. 
The flash shortage is due to the AI bubble

[Mark Kaine]

15 minutes ago, OddOod said:

If NV were warehousing ram chips

It's mostly wafers apparently funny enough, there's several GN videos (amongst others) where he says that, and it's not just NV, every "major player", google, microsoft, openai... there's even a statement from microsoft CEO saying they "have so much ram they don't know what to do with it".

15 minutes ago, OddOod said:

they'd be instantly sued by their shareholders for not capitalizing on their market position. 
The flash shortage is due to the AI bubble

Umm... yes? 

 

And in a just world they would be sued by any major governments, but why should shareholders sue? They're the one's profiting lol... Do you not understand how a bubble works? Artificial demand is big part of it.

 

RAM cartels are real and an ongoing problem since at least 20 years. 

 

 

 

 

 

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

Instead of hampering user experience we should go after the RAM cartels instead...

 

 

 

Do y'all still watch GN or too much "journalism"? 

 

(I know for sure @starsmine doesn't watch because he has yet to address a single thing regarding the "ram mafia" ... now he wants to know where the warehouses are... smh)

look that video isnt about nvidia. 

so where are these warehouses nvidia has of memory laying around

two, dont give me a 25 min video to dispute, This was one I was very frustrated with GN over as he is speculating more then reporting but presenting it as reporting. Do you want me to go through point by point? or do you have a specific point you want me to address. Like even in its opening attention grabbing statement he already makes a mistake by talking about crucial ending having any effect on DRAM supply for consumers. 

In general I do watch his pieces and appreciate his journalism. He just misses the ball sometimes, like here. 

No one denies what happened in the late 90s/early 00s. And its interesting to look at to draw parallels with the modern day. but the drawing parallels part is SPECULATION, not reporting. Saying they existed in the 90s is a true claim, saying they exist now is not a true claim without evidence. The biggest evidence that the cartel shit is not happening today is that every ram manufacturer is SOLD OUT through 2026 and almost through 2027 while at the same time every ram manufacturer is EXPANDING capacity, not stagnating, not shrinking, EXPANDING capacity. 

I do want more anti-trust, but we cant have nice things like anti-trust can we? 

[porina]

48 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Do y'all still watch GN or too much "journalism"? 

I don't watch drama stirring clickbait. If you want to relate it to "journalism", I'd compare it to tabloids.

[Mark Kaine]

26 minutes ago, porina said:

I don't watch drama stirring clickbait. If you want to relate it to "journalism", I'd compare it to tabloids.

Fair enough, but someone is hoarding all the RAM, I mean it's pretty clear there's lots of collusion going on... but it's hard to prove as a customer or even a journalist... but if no one does anything we'll just go from "bubble" to bubble and the whole system is kinda doomed (few profit majority suffers) 

49 minutes ago, starsmine said:

No one denies what happened in the late 90s/early 00s. And its interesting to look at to draw parallels with the modern day. but the drawing parallels part is SPECULATION, not reporting. I want more anti-trust, but we cant have nice things like anti-trust can we? 

I agree, the GN videos have "some" evidence, like the microsoft CEO saying they have way more RAM than they need right now, but he didn't show the warehouses full of wafers - which actually would be hard evidence. >.<

 

 

49 minutes ago, starsmine said:

In general I do watch his pieces and appreciate his journalism. He just misses the ball sometimes, like here. 

Tbf he does sometimes, but there's a ton of those videos lately and overall he doesn't miss, it's pretty obvious he's rather spot on in his overall assessments... Like the palantir video which is all sorts of crazy (literally and figuratively) 

[porina]

12 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

like the microsoft CEO saying they have way more RAM than they need right now

We can try to look up what was actually said.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-ceo-says-company-doesnt-122000891.html

I found this from around 4 months ago. The statement was they have more hardware than they can deploy at the time. So it isn't like they're buying it just to deny others from doing so. They do want to deploy it, but for whatever reason, don't have the building or power capacity to do so.

[starsmine]

6 minutes ago, porina said:

We can try to look up what was actually said.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-ceo-says-company-doesnt-122000891.html

I found this from around 4 months ago. The statement was they have more hardware than they can deploy at the time. So it isn't like they're buying it just to deny others from doing so. They do want to deploy it, but for whatever reason, don't have the building or power capacity to do so.

And it also doesnt even mean they have the hardware sitting around yet. Its just sitting around on paper. 

If they have fully confirmed 10MW of hardware coming in over the next couple of quarters but only have 8MW of DC slots opening up in the next couple of quarters. you have 2MW of hardware you are trying to find a home for because receiving it and not putting it into a DC means its not making revenue. 

 

Which is why they are all in a rush to build up data centers. 

[dorin14554]

I think both sides have a point here.

Native performance improvements are always welcome, but DLSS has genuinely helped a lot in demanding titles, especially with ray tracing.

The issue is when games start relying on it instead of optimizing properly.

[OddOod]

On 3/26/2026 at 8:55 AM, Mark Kaine said:

someone is hoarding all the RAM

The major tech companies are buying and planning on using all the RAM, that's not hoarding, that's logistics. 

[Mark Kaine]

16 minutes ago, OddOod said:

The major tech companies are buying and planning on using all the RAM, that's not hoarding, that's logistics. 

The problem is apparently they have a huge surplus though...

Yes they're planning, but equally important to them is that the competition can't have it!

 

I'm not sure that's by itself is unlawful, but it sure seems like it could be (and it's definitely unhealthy for the economy)

[Pusbucket]

On 3/26/2026 at 6:55 AM, Mark Kaine said:

Fair enough, but someone is hoarding all the RAM, I mean it's pretty clear there's lots of collusion going on... but it's hard to prove as a customer or even a journalist... but if no one does anything we'll just go from "bubble" to bubble and the whole system is kinda doomed (few profit majority suffers) 

I agree, the GN videos have "some" evidence, like the microsoft CEO saying they have way more RAM than they need right now, but he didn't show the warehouses full of wafers - which actually would be hard evidence. >.<

 

 

Tbf he does sometimes, but there's a ton of those videos lately and overall he doesn't miss, it's pretty obvious he's rather spot on in his overall assessments... Like the palantir video which is all sorts of crazy (literally and figuratively) 

dude, why is everything a conspiracy to you?

It doesn't really matter what the subject matter is, you always come up with some odd conspiracy tilted ideas.

THEN to validate your position you tend to always quote this yahoo on Gamers Nexus.

anytime someone talks about upgrading to Win 11, you sound the alarm

anything AI, you sound the alarm

youtube changes policy, you sound the alarm

the list could go on.

everything isn't a conspiracy.

 

must get exhausting keeping all these nefarious plots in order so you know what hardware or game to buy.

[Pusbucket]

if the trend for realism in games continues, we'll just circle back around to the days of the "interactive movie" type of games with live actors.

 

 

You can download/play it for free;

https://archive.org/details/msdos_Phantasmagoria_1995

I played both of these and still have them.

[OddOod]

24 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

I'm not sure that's by itself is unlawful, but it sure seems like it could be (and it's definitely unhealthy for the economy)

Oh, it's DEFINITELY not illegal. In fact, they are perfectly allowed to take allllll that RAM, grind it to a fine powder, feed it into a furnace, and piss on the ashes. Always remember: legality has nothing to do with morality. 

23 minutes ago, Pusbucket said:

everything isn't a conspiracy.

I do love conspiracists. As always, there's an xkcd for that. To me the fundamental problem with conspiracies is that unless the nefarious actors are fewer than a handful or have reach a degree of financial security where millions of dollars are meaningless, you have to believe that people are *universally* more prone to pure cruel meaningless evil than they are greedy, and that? That I don't buy

[KidKid]

On 3/16/2026 at 9:38 PM, Black_Mage said:

So instead of looking forward to new GPUs with real performance improvements, we get a new version of DLSS with more gimmicks. I want the old NVidia back that sold new GPUs that made a noticeable difference in game performance without relying on fake frames and upscaling. 

 

 

Yeah... like the RTX 5070 is as powerful as a 4090

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, Pusbucket said:

dude, why is everything a conspiracy to you?

It doesn't really matter what the subject matter is, you always come up with some odd conspiracy tilted ideas.

THEN to validate your position you tend to always quote this yahoo on Gamers Nexus.

anytime someone talks about upgrading to Win 11, you sound the alarm

anything AI, you sound the alarm

youtube changes policy, you sound the alarm

the list could go on.

everything isn't a conspiracy.

 

must get exhausting keeping all these nefarious plots in order so you know what hardware or game to buy.

It's only a "conspiracy theory" until proven, then it's just "oh yeah we won't do it again *pinky swear promise*..." 

 

3 hours ago, Pusbucket said:

must get exhausting keeping all these nefarious plots in order so you know what hardware or game to buy.

I suppose, but these people always want more money so that's just a necessary evil to them ~

 

 

3 hours ago, Pusbucket said:

so you know what hardware or game to buy.

The fact you think this influences my buying decisions is kinda cute, but also kinda disappointing, it is what it is tho, everyone has their own little "conspiracy theories" I guess, eh.

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, OddOod said:

legality has nothing to do with morality. 

No, but immoral things are indeed often unlawful... 

 

I have a feeling many people just live in their bubbles too much, just for example I recently repeatedly read that insider trading "isn't illegal"...

 

 

Maybe on another planet, on this one it definitely is!