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X86 needs to die.

 

The lower power use alone seems to be a good reason.

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2 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

 

The lower power use alone seems to be a good reason.

It's so much more complicated than that, and not all of us pay a lot for power.  Or make a lot more, relatively.

 

Nor do we have kids who we worry about inheriting the earth, etc etc etc. (added for non parents, of which I am not).

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

It's so much more complicated than that, and not all of us pay a lot for power.  Or make a lot more, relatively.

 

Nor do we have kids who we worry about inheriting the earth, etc etc etc. (added for non parents, of which I am not).

Just skimmed the start of the video and its worth noting they don't seem to be saying X86_64 needs to die, they are saying "legacy" hardware in the CPU needs to be removed, such as 8086 compatibility.

 

This likely is going to happen, they already do this on game consoles to save silicon space.  Intel have even mentioned removing some legacy silicon (real 32bit mode, which we don't need as 32bit software these days runs in 32bit compatibility mode which is part of x86_64).

 

Bottom line, it can be done, it has been done, Linux on the PS4 for example had to be changed to handle the lack of this legacy hardware.

 

[note]  Amusingly neither the article or video is actually discussing this, the article goes completely off on a tangent about things the author did not understand and that is what the video actually discusses.

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no it doesnt

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the world is still built on x86. Love it or hate it it's not going anywhere any time soon
Windows is just now starting to prep for an ARM/RISC transition

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18 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

The lower power use alone seems to be a good reason.

 

im running several virtual machines so my friends can do their lab work on their stupid arm powered macbooks
if compatibility with legacy software is ever sorted out then im sure we'll all gladly move on

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YT was trying to make me watch this video for a weeks and now that it's gone you show it in here... 😄 

 

No, it does not. What I think kinda needs to die within the x86 are some of the legacy stuff but that may or may not affect backwards compabillity of some things and deciding which things should go may not be as straightforward.

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27 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

The lower power use alone seems to be a good reason.

No. Efficiency's evolving all the time, it improves on all architectures, and at most there's a couple years' worth of difference between them. Pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

 

A 28W TDP 8840U Ryzen basically has the same computing performance as a 27W TDP M3 Pro.

 

Marketing people love to mislead by comparing things that are not in the same league though, it sells.

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We've been trying to replace x86 for fourty years in the workstation/server market and 20 years on the consumer side. And guess what Intel is still making.
Just because ARM processors surpass X86 efficiency doesn't mean the architecture will vanish off the face of the planet suddenly.

 

X86 doesn't "need to die". Such a statement is just as stupid as saying combustion engines should be outlawed.

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Further into the video now, title is misleading as they are basically saying that article is flawed to begin with and makes no valid argument that X86 should die.

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2 hours ago, Edward78 said:

 

The lower power use alone seems to be a good reason.

Did you watch the video?
Serious question did you watch it?

"x86 needs to die" is the title of article they read, the conclusion and the WHOLE video talks about how much the article misunderstands architectures and x86, and that x86 does not in fact need to die. 

Its a very good discussion and a solid video. You should watch the video that you posted. 

 

1 hour ago, WereCat said:

YT was trying to make me watch this video for a weeks and now that it's gone you show it in here... 😄 

 

No, it does not. What I think kinda needs to die within the x86 are some of the legacy stuff but that may or may not affect backwards compabillity of some things and deciding which things should go may not be as straightforward.

You should watch it when you get the chance to. They go over those topics. 

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