Third-party investigator updates in regard to Madison's claims.

[Looki]

 

When can we expect any update in regard to Madison's case?

[Middcore]

Due to the possible legal ramifications, I doubt we will ever get the kind of information people are hoping for. 

[Looki]

Let's hope Linus won't turn out to be a liar. It’s his word that we’ll receive audit results.

 

[IkeaGnome]

6 minutes ago, Looki said:

Let's hope Linus won't turn out to be a liar. It’s his word that we’ll receive audit results.

 

And he can only share what lawyers allow. 

[Looki]

14 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

And he can only share what lawyers allow. 

It’s better than nothing. 

[venomtail]

Best they keep their private internal investigate private and internal. Strangers on the internet have established a well founded track record of the inability to keep civil so no need to tell us. A win win win.

[divito]

Ultimately depends on the results of the investigation. As has been pointed out, what has/hasn't been found, could include actual legal issues that prevent a more transparent disclosure on what actually did or didn't happen, due to employment/privacy laws. And if there were any legal things, those types of processes also take a lot longer than some people realize.

On top of that, I imagine along with the investigator(s), they'd probably be consulting with an HR firm and possibly a PR firm to cover their bases. Even in the event of total absolution or a guilty employee, not addressing it, (to say nothing of the possibility that they might legally be unable to), is a general better course of action.

Now, LMG being a Youtube-focused company, it's possible some aspect of the results might be told, but in my experience, I would mostly doubt it. That will unlikely not satisfy some people, but such is the case with these types of occurrences. 

[wanderingfool2]

2 hours ago, divito said:

Ultimately depends on the results of the investigation. As has been pointed out, what has/hasn't been found, could include actual legal issues that prevent a more transparent disclosure on what actually did or didn't happen, due to employment/privacy laws. And if there were any legal things, those types of processes also take a lot longer than some people realize.

On top of that, I imagine along with the investigator(s), they'd probably be consulting with an HR firm and possibly a PR firm to cover their bases. Even in the event of total absolution or a guilty employee, not addressing it, (to say nothing of the possibility that they might legally be unable to), is a general better course of action.

Now, LMG being a Youtube-focused company, it's possible some aspect of the results might be told, but in my experience, I would mostly doubt it. That will unlikely not satisfy some people, but such is the case with these types of occurrences. 

While I do agree that the results of the investigation can determine how much can really be exposed to an extent when it comes to these levels of accusations (and the effective denial they happened) with the wording being that they would release it becomes a tricky situation.

 

I think overall it will be tricky but there has to be something still made public (but it's a process that would take months potentially)...even if it's as basic as we have concluded Madisons allegations are [valid/invalid/partially valid].  That in itself wouldn't cross any legal issues (could be wrong) in regards to privacy as it's the confirmation of a public or non public statement...and a general statement was already made claiming the allegations didn't match what the memory was of Linus.

 

Actually in general the statements made by LMG are exactly why you essentially make boiler plate statements like "we are investigating the matter and cannot comment at this time".  The reason being that Linus essentially has on a few occasions essentially dismissed what the allegations were, and thus doing so as the company, so if the investigation revealed there to be truth behind it then I could see LMG being in legal hot water (because at that point it could be considered libel by not retracting their statements and correcting it)

[divito]

2 hours ago, wanderingfool2 said:

While I do agree that the results of the investigation can determine how much can really be exposed to an extent when it comes to these levels of accusations (and the effective denial they happened) with the wording being that they would release it becomes a tricky situation.

 

I think overall it will be tricky but there has to be something still made public (but it's a process that would take months potentially)...even if it's as basic as we have concluded Madisons allegations are [valid/invalid/partially valid].  That in itself wouldn't cross any legal issues (could be wrong) in regards to privacy as it's the confirmation of a public or non public statement...and a general statement was already made claiming the allegations didn't match what the memory was of Linus.

 

Actually in general the statements made by LMG are exactly why you essentially make boiler plate statements like "we are investigating the matter and cannot comment at this time".  The reason being that Linus essentially has on a few occasions essentially dismissed what the allegations were, and thus doing so as the company, so if the investigation revealed there to be truth behind it then I could see LMG being in legal hot water (because at that point it could be considered libel by not retracting their statements and correcting it)

I also dislike that they expressed being "committed to publishing the findings." While the purpose behind that sentiment of being transparent is obvious and appreciated, it was never known if they'd be able to properly promise and divulge something like that. Especially if certain parties, whether LMG/Madison/other employee retain counsel and work out a settlement/NDA/etc..

[Stahlmann]

You will never hear anything other than "appropriate measures have been taken" ever again about this. Unless both parties agree that any of it will go public it will never happen. I doubt LTT will want to have any negative publications about them and madison wouldn't want that about herself either.

 

So again, you'll probably never hear about it again.

[Spotty]

Thread locked.

No statement has been published yet. Asking about it isn't going to make things happen any quicker. There's already topics about this that are locked. If a topic has been locked don't post it again.