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why steam deck not choosing oled display?

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Price and durability would be my guess. 

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OLED have burn in issues, imagine clueless people whining about it on the internet, who knows if it will ferment into something worse? Not like TVs which would hardly stay on one screen (could turn it off), steam deck very well could be used like computers and they will stay on one screen.

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Given the low price of the steamdeck as it is, they would already be losing money on each unit, going OLED would push up manufacturing cost, meaning they would be losing a higher margin on each unit, or they would have to make them more expensive and potentially lose sales

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9 hours ago, Arika S said:

Given the low price of the steamdeck as it is, they would already be losing money on each unit, going OLED would push up manufacturing cost, meaning they would be losing a higher margin on each unit, or they would have to make them more expensive and potentially lose sales

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

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6 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

Yes, the low cost. Just because it is not something you can afford or are willing to buy at that cost does not mean it is not a low cost peice of hardware for what they have made. Gabe has even said so himself in that it was incredibly hard for them to commit to the costs they have compaired to what they cost to make.

Quite frankly I wouldnt be at all shocked to find out when all the math is done they are selling units at a loss and plan to make up the money though steam itself.

All you have to do is look at literally any other competing devices on the market and see they are literally hundreds of dollars mode (and quite frankly I'd wager were cheaper to produce) to realize the Steam deck is at a low cost.

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3 minutes ago, Nexxus said:

Yes, the low cost. Just because it is not something you can afford or are willing to buy at that cost does not mean it is not a low cost peice of hardware for what they have made. Gabe has even said so himself in that it was incredibly hard for them to commit to the costs they have compaired to what they cost to make.

Quite frankly I wouldnt be at all shocked to find out when all the math is done they are selling units at a loss and plan to make up the money though steam itself.

Well that hardly usual at all. There are/were some exectations like Wii, but I know if any are now.

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12 hours ago, whm1974 said:

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

The Steam Deck is not much more than a Nintendo Switch. And its more powerful. And its a full computer pretty much. So yeah, its low cost. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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14 hours ago, whm1974 said:

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

 

A product objectively having a low price compared to the cost of manufacturing it and having a price low enough for people to want to buy it are two separate and unrelated things. 

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17 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

A product objectively having a low price compared to the cost of manufacturing it and having a price low enough for people to want to buy it are two separate and unrelated things. 

Well I suppose you are right about that. At least the Steamdeck isn't a ~$1,000+ iPhone.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Im super glad they have not used an OLED
Because that shiz burns in.
An LCD I can leave on all day (by accident even)
but an OLED... perma-burnin

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Burn in is less of an issue when the displayed image varies a lot, unlike a desktop computer. 

 

But the answer is probably trying to keep cost low and maybe power. I think OLED uses less power? 

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On 10/10/2021 at 5:44 AM, whm1974 said:

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

GabeN said in an IGN interview that the getting the steamdeck to this price point has been "Painful"; which means they are probably losing some money rather than breaking even. (Like the switch) So, they cut corners on the screen.


It's hard for a company all about maximizing profits through steam to adopt a completely different business model which is designed to lose money just for one product. Other handheld PCs like gpd win3, aya neo, onexplayer start at $700 and all the way to $1100. 


The last time valve tried to enter into the console space through the the steam machine, it failed HORRIBLY due to the price being much higher than a standard xbone or PlayStation. They are rectifying the biggest mistake with the steam deck.  

Sidenote:- OLED has suffered more in comparison with LCD in the semiconductor shortage due to the tech being relatively new and not having many manufacturing hubs in comparison to LCD. 

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On 10/10/2021 at 6:21 PM, Donut417 said:

The Steam Deck is not much more than a Nintendo Switch

The steam deck is MUCH more powerful than a switch cuz :-

1)Big ass console ports on the switch are literary shoved into with the help of optimizations.

2)The Tegra chip by Nvidia is an ARM based one and the steam deck has a full x86 cpu.

3)Nintendo themselves are struggling with the hardware in games like hyrule warriors. 

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6 hours ago, Bl4ze_buoy said:

The steam deck is MUCH more powerful than a switch cuz :-

You need to read my entire post. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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I think the post of it being expensive and less durable hit the nail on the head..i'm pretty sure those are the two deciding factors.

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On 10/9/2021 at 8:14 PM, whm1974 said:

Low cost? Oh please The Steamdeck is pricier then I am willing to pay from.

Yes, it's low-cost.  

 

Compare it to the GPD or other devices.  (Linus even made a video about it already!)

It's dramatically cheaper, and has great performace in comparison.

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