i7 9700k reaching 95 degrees. HELP

[Mahbub]

ok so i have a i7 9700k being cooled by a noctua nh u12s with two fans in push pull.. and when i put stress test with prime 95 and AVX and AVX2 disabled, it still reaches 95 degrees, i mean with avx enabled it reaches 100 instantly.. i understand.. but even with anx disabled is it supposed to reach 95?? please help

[Dr0y]

case airflow ?

maybe it's a bad mount/thermal paste/pressure ...

 

also prime 95 is kind of an extreme test and really not representative of real use case ... so yeah it's probably normal to get those high temps in an extreme test ...

 

what are your temps in game or heavy workload

[Mahbub]

7 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

case airflow ?

maybe it's a bad mount/thermal paste/pressure ...

 

also prime 95 is kind of an extreme test and really not representative of real use case ... so yeah it's probably normal to get those high temps in an extreme test ...

 

what are your temps in game or heavy workload

in games its like 75.. also i forgot to mention that it reaches 95 when with prime 95 test i also run furmark gpu test.. when i run just prime 95 without avx it reaches like 84

[Dr0y]

5 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

in games its like 75.. also i forgot to mention that it reaches 95 when with prime 95 test i also run furmark gpu test.. when i run just prime 95 without avx it reaches like 84

those 2 tests are not realistics ... something like firestrike or time spy is more representative of real life situation

 

which case do you have ?

[LIGISTX]

6 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

in games its like 75.. also i forgot to mention that it reaches 95 when with prime 95 test i also run furmark gpu test.. when i run just prime 95 without avx it reaches like 84

Is your mobo doing any weird multi core enhancement BS? That is effectively an OC with typically pretty wild voltages. Use https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ to monitor the speed of each core.

 

If they are running at normal boost speeds, possibly a bad mount.

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

those 2 tests are not realistics ... something like firestrike or time spy is more representative of real life situation

 

which case do you have ?

That is true, but at stock CPU shouldn't get that hot in them. OCed yes, 100%. I couldn't run P95 on my 9900k @ 5ghz even on a custom loop, it just couldn't get the heat out of the die fast enough. But at stock.......... definitely shouldn't be an issue. Still not realistic, but shouldn't be that hot.

[Mahbub]

6 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Is your mobo doing any weird multi core enhancement BS? That is effectively an OC with typically pretty wild voltages. Use https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ to monitor the speed of each core.

 

If they are running at normal boost speeds, possibly a bad mount.

yes normal boost speeds.. m anxious  donno whats wrong

[Mahbub]

10 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

those 2 tests are not realistics ... something like firestrike or time spy is more representative of real life situation

 

which case do you have ?

nzxt h500

[Dr0y]

5 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

yes normal boost speeds.. m anxious  donno whats wrong

 

5 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

nzxt h500

the case ... that's what is wrong ... it has a really bad airflow to start with ... ... the best thing to do is to go all negative pressure an hope for the best ... of to cut open the front panel to let the air enter it ...

[Mahbub]

2 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

 

the case ... that's what is wrong ... it has a really bad airflow to start with ... ... the best thing to do is to go all negative pressure an hope for the best ... of to cut open the front panel to let the air enter it ...

yes its restrictive... i didnt go for a front mest because the front collects dust and i am suffering from ocd.. the dust my ocd triggered.. what do i do now? will buying a bigger cooler help? also i have top exhaust.. .. cz my pc is near to the wall.. also will repasting help?

[xg32]

46 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

yes its restrictive... i didnt go for a front mest because the front collects dust and i am suffering from ocd.. the dust my ocd triggered.. what do i do now? will buying a bigger cooler help? also i have top exhaust.. .. cz my pc is near to the wall.. also will repasting help?

p95, furmark and certain occt tests are very unrealistic, if u can spam r20/r23 and blender and never crash, ur good.

[Dr0y]

50 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

yes its restrictive... i didnt go for a front mest because the front collects dust and i am suffering from ocd.. the dust my ocd triggered.. what do i do now? will buying a bigger cooler help? also i have top exhaust.. .. cz my pc is near to the wall.. also will repasting help?

well the exhaust will draw air from the back of the case under the gpu and dust will enter there anyway ... the front is so restrictive that even if you put some intake fans there they will barely do anything ... the case is made for negative pressure and that's about it ...

 

also if you don't throttle under realistic load then you're good ...

[LIGISTX]

8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

p95, furmark and certain occt tests are very unrealistic, if u can spam r20/r23 and blender and never crash, ur good.

Define “good”. Those certainly do not prove stability, but worrying about stability at stocks speeds is not really an issue - it’ll be stable at stock clocks.

 

Assuming OP doesn’t do anything that is more stressful then those programs, then yes it proved his thermal solution is adequate for the job at hand. 

1 hour ago, Mahbub said:

ok so i have a i7 9700k being cooled by a noctua nh u12s with two fans in push pull.. and when i put stress test with prime 95 and AVX and AVX2 disabled, it still reaches 95 degrees, i mean with avx enabled it reaches 100 instantly.. i understand.. but even with anx disabled is it supposed to reach 95?? please help

What is the PC’s main use case? Do you ever do anything besides stress test that gets the CPU into the mid 80’s or higher? If not, it’s “fine”. If you do run programs that get it that hot on a regular basis, then yes there is reason to consider changing parts. But airflow is going to be the largest thing. Better heatsink will help, but without adequate airflow all heatsinks will come up short.

[Mahbub]

1 hour ago, LIGISTX said:

Define “good”. Those certainly do not prove stability, but worrying about stability at stocks speeds is not really an issue - it’ll be stable at stock clocks.

 

Assuming OP doesn’t do anything that is more stressful then those programs, then yes it proved his thermal solution is adequate for the job at hand. 

What is the PC’s main use case? Do you ever do anything besides stress test that gets the CPU into the mid 80’s or higher? If not, it’s “fine”. If you do run programs that get it that hot on a regular basis, then yes there is reason to consider changing parts. But airflow is going to be the largest thing. Better heatsink will help, but without adequate airflow all heatsinks will come up short.

No while gaming its like 75...

[Mahbub]

Ok so i have i7 9700k being cooled by noctua nh u12s in a nzxt h500, as u can see from the pics.. when i run furmark and prime 95 together. Cpu reaches 98, 99 without avx enabled.... or even when i run just prime 95 without avx (and not furmark) it reaches 95 to 96. And these temps are at stock speed without any overclock or overvolting... today i cleaned all the dust.. repasted it.. mounted correctly.. and still the same issue..  reaching this hot temps without avx...  Them ambient temperature in the room is somewhere around 25 to 30 ish.. so whats the issue?

[Jeppes]

Under 20nm cpu with +200W:s is just too much for a measly U12S. Works nice for gaming though usually but so does 30$ coolers.

[Mahbub]

36 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

No while gaming its like 75...

 

2 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

Define “good”. Those certainly do not prove stability, but worrying about stability at stocks speeds is not really an issue - it’ll be stable at stock clocks.

 

Assuming OP doesn’t do anything that is more stressful then those programs, then yes it proved his thermal solution is adequate for the job at hand. 

What is the PC’s main use case? Do you ever do anything besides stress test that gets the CPU into the mid 80’s or higher? If not, it’s “fine”. If you do run programs that get it that hot on a regular basis, then yes there is reason to consider changing parts. But airflow is going to be the largest thing. Better heatsink will help, but without adequate airflow all heatsinks will come up short.

 

2 hours ago, Dr0y said:

well the exhaust will draw air from the back of the case under the gpu and dust will enter there anyway ... the front is so restrictive that even if you put some intake fans there they will barely do anything ... the case is made for negative pressure and that's about it ...

 

also if you don't throttle under realistic load then you're good ...

 

2 hours ago, xg32 said:

p95, furmark and certain occt tests are very unrealistic, if u can spam r20/r23 and blender and never crash, ur good.

 

3 hours ago, Dr0y said:

 

the case ... that's what is wrong ... it has a really bad airflow to start with ... ... the best thing to do is to go all negative pressure an hope for the best ... of to cut open the front panel to let the air enter it ...

 

3 hours ago, Mahbub said:

nzxt h500

 

3 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

That is true, but at stock CPU shouldn't get that hot in them. OCed yes, 100%. I couldn't run P95 on my 9900k @ 5ghz even on a custom loop, it just couldn't get the heat out of the die fast enough. But at stock.......... definitely shouldn't be an issue. Still not realistic, but shouldn't be that hot.

 

3 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

Is your mobo doing any weird multi core enhancement BS? That is effectively an OC with typically pretty wild voltages. Use https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ to monitor the speed of each core.

 

If they are running at normal boost speeds, possibly a bad mount.

here is the pics

[Kilrah]

With your "vertical" CPU cooler mounting it's sucking all the hot air from the GPU...

[Mahbub]

9 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

With your "vertical" CPU cooler mounting it's sucking all the hot air from the GPU...

it reaches 90 plus even witout runni9ng gpu stress test  

[frozensun]

I'd do a vertical mount of CPU cooler,never saw anyone installing CPU cooler in this way.

I agree with @Kilrah since I own Zotac card,and those heat a lot and because those are close to cpu,they warm the air around it.

What is your idle temp of your CPU and idle temp of GPU?

What card you own?

You CPU cooler is pushing hot air from GPU,and no wonder your CPU temp is high.

As I said do the opposite/vertical cooler installation and that fan on top of the case switch to the back blowing air outside of the case,as exhaust.

[LIGISTX]

8 hours ago, Mahbub said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

here is the pics

Flipping the cooler to go front to back may help a little. Also, running P95 and furmark at the same time is not realistic at all for any real world situation you will be doing with your PC. Both are power viruses for their respective hardware; those programs are pulling a lot more wattage than any normal application, thus dumping excessive heat into your PC and clearly your PC just doesn't have the airflow to deal with that.

 

With that said, there really is no reason to run both at the same time, what are you trying to test here? You are simulating literally the worst possible thermal situation, and I guess you can say the fact everything runs and doesn't thermal throttle means you're "fine" since nothing else you do will ever pump this much heat into the case.

 

9 hours ago, Mahbub said:

No while gaming its like 75...

75c is fine. Its on the warm side, but its totally fine. 

[Mahbub]

40 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Flipping the cooler to go front to back may help a little. Also, running P95 and furmark at the same time is not realistic at all for any real world situation you will be doing with your PC. Both are power viruses for their respective hardware; those programs are pulling a lot more wattage than any normal application, thus dumping excessive heat into your PC and clearly your PC just doesn't have the airflow to deal with that.

 

With that said, there really is no reason to run both at the same time, what are you trying to test here? You are simulating literally the worst possible thermal situation, and I guess you can say the fact everything runs and doesn't thermal throttle means you're "fine" since nothing else you do will ever pump this much heat into the case.

 

75c is fine. Its on the warm side, but its totally fine. 

thanks.. how much better temps may i see with the u12a?

[LIGISTX]

37 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

thanks.. how much better temps may i see with the u12a?

Probably not all that much? I am still surprised it runs that hot as is, butt maybe that case has really poor airflow, or all the fans are turned way down.

 

Either way, definitely not worth the money to cool the CPU more, isn't that cooler like 100 bucks? There are a lot of other upgrades that would be more worthwhile than 100 bucks on a heatsink when you don't "really" need it.

[Mahbub]

8 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Probably not all that much? I am still surprised it runs that hot as is, butt maybe that case has really poor airflow, or all the fans are turned way down.

 

Either way, definitely not worth the money to cool the CPU more, isn't that cooler like 100 bucks? There are a lot of other upgrades that would be more worthwhile than 100 bucks on a heatsink when you don't "really" need it.

actually too afraid to buy aio.... here in india for an aio leak only the aio is replaced not the other effected parts.. and i am afraid if the nf u12a goes outta market.. i wont get.. i want this processor to last.. wont be afford another processor anytime soon 

[LIGISTX]

4 minutes ago, Mahbub said:

actually too afraid to buy aio.... here in india for an aio leak only the aio is replaced not the other effected parts.. and i am afraid if the nf u12a goes outta market.. i wont get.. i want this processor to last.. wont be afford another processor anytime soon 

As long as its in the 70's or less, it should be fine for a very long time.

 

What temp does it run at when idle? If its not in the 30's or 40's at idle, that would indicate something like a bad mount is likely. If it is 30's or low 40's at idle, then your chip just runs hot.