10900k vs 5800x

[Hideinpit]

im about to build a new pc and was thinking about 5800x vs 10900k they are about the same price with the 10900k being a little cheaper.

what are the pros and cons of both ?

and what would u recommend overall ?

[PatrikYT_98]

5 minutes ago, Hideinpit said:

im about to build a new pc and was thinking about 5800x vs 10900k they are about the same price with the 10900k being a little cheaper.

what are the pros and cons of both ?

and what would u recommend overall ?

5800x is not very good price/performance i recommend getting a 5900x for 100$ more

[ki8aras]

the 5800x has a clearer upgrade path, better single threaded performance(meaning it has yields higher frame rates in games when you're trying to play csgo at like 400 fps) and uses less power than the 10900k

motherboards for the 5800x are cheaper, plus you can get away with a much cheaper cooler than the 10900k because of the aforementioned lower power consumption 

 

the upsides of the 10900k are technologies like thunderbolt (although thats debatable because i have seen some amd motherboards with thunderbolt)

 

i think I'm not the only one that shares this opinion of recommending the 5800x ( or the 5900x since its only 100 dollars more)

[Hideinpit]

1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

the 5800x has a clearer upgrade path, better single threaded performance(meaning it has yields higher frame rates in games when you're trying to play csgo at like 400 fps) and uses less power than the 10900k

motherboards for the 5800x are cheaper, plus you can get away with a much cheaper cooler than the 10900k because of the aforementioned lower power consumption 

 

the upsides of the 10900k are technologies like thunderbolt (although thats debatable because i have seen some amd motherboards with thunderbolt)

 

i think I'm not the only one that shares this opinion of recommending the 5800x

thanks that helped me alot ! will get the 5800x i thought of pairing it with the asus strix x570-e gaming

[SupaKomputa]

5800x pros:

- 16 cores guaranteed upgrade path, without changing the motherboard.

- Relatively cooler.

- Better overall performance.

- Can run on cheaper motherboard. You can run it with a B motherboard and still have overclocking.

- PCIE gen 4.

[ki8aras]

5 minutes ago, Hideinpit said:

thanks that helped me alot ! will get the 5800x i thought of pairing it with the asus strix x570-e gaming

oh also you have support for pcie gen 4, something that ltt did a video on where they showed that you can expect minor performance improvements with high end gpus   

 

credit to @SupaKomputa for bringing it up

[Downkey]

14 minutes ago, Hideinpit said:

im about to build a new pc and was thinking about 5800x vs 10900k they are about the same price with the 10900k being a little cheaper.

what are the pros and cons of both ?

and what would u recommend overall ?

Has slightly better performance in AAA titles

Has extremely better performance in esports titles (we talking over 200 more FPS in some games)

Better upgrade path (can go to 5950x)

Simillar/better multithreaded performance in some scenarios

much better single core performance

PCIE GEN 4

You don’t need a $200+ motherboard

it also runs cooler

 

 

[Hideinpit]

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

Has slightly better performance in AAA titles

Has extremely better performance in esports titles (we talking over 200 more FPS in some games)

Better upgrade path (can go to 5950x)

Simillar/better multithreaded performance in some scenarios

much better single core performance

PCIE GEN 4

You don’t need a $200+ motherboard

it also runs cooler

 

 

u are talking about the 5800x ?

[Downkey]

Just now, Hideinpit said:

u are talking about the 5800x ?

Should’ve been more clear. Yes I am

[Hideinpit]

does anyone have experience in overclocking the 5800x like how far u can go in general without doing crazy stuff

[Nena Trinity]

If OCing it to the moon Intel seems to be the better pick I heard... 

[Hideinpit]

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

If OCing it to the moon Intel seems to be the better pick I heard... 

i just want to basic overclock nothing hardcore

[Nena Trinity]

Just now, Hideinpit said:

i just want to basic overclock nothing hardcore

Doubt you need more than 8-cores for just gaming but if multi-tasking maybe... 

[SupaKomputa]

27 minutes ago, Hideinpit said:

i just want to basic overclock nothing hardcore

You can go 100-200mhz more (from the boost rating).

remember you can't compare intel mhz vs amd mhz.

at 4.7 it can beat intel at 5+ghz, so why bother.

[Action_Johnson]

Unless you have a workload that uses 8 cores, save your cash, get a 5600X. It's effectively the same in gaming. Hell, even a 3600 or 2600 Is enough, generally going to be GPU limited anyway unless you're using a 3080 or 6800XT to game at 1080

[jones177]

I have a i9 10900k rig and I consider it the devil I know.

 

There are lots of down sides.

You need a very good motherboard. I am at 330 watts with an all core 5.3ghz overclock and 230 stock.

You need very good cooling. A 360mm AIO is minimum.

In most games it is not much faster than an Intel 6 core.

 

Even with all that I would like to buy another. 

It is so smooth playing games it is serene.

All my games that were on my i7 8086k rig have migrated to the i9 even though they produce but the same amount of frames.

 

I also have an i9 9900k but it feels just like the i7 in games. It is probably the boosts that the i9 10900k has and the i9 9900k does not have that make the difference. All I know is I would not buy an Intel CPU the does not have thermal velocity boost.

 

I may feel the same with a 5800x and I will probably build one to find out at some point but as I said the i9 is the devil I know.

[SupaKomputa]

7 minutes ago, jones177 said:

You need a very good motherboard. I am at 330 watts with an all core 5.3ghz overclock and 230 stock.

5.3ghz is a devil alright, but not everyone can do this with ease.

[jones177]

28 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

5.3ghz is a devil alright, but not everyone can do this with ease.

It is super stable at 5.3ghz but it throttles in some benches.  So unlike my other Intel CPUs it runs out of cooling before it runs out of clocks.

 

Right now I run it using TVB so it has to stay below 70c. That beats the i7 8086k and i9 9900k with all core 5ghz overclocks in most games.

That also beats 5.1ghz overclock on the CPU in games but not in benches since it can't hit 5.3ghz on one core if it goes over 70c.

 

It is just a really strange CPU.  So I can't really recommend it but I am glad I have it.

 

[xg32]

2 hours ago, Hideinpit said:

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i think the 5800x is better at almost everything than the 10900k, you can get away with a 240aio or an air cooler with a 5800x while the 10900k requires a 280 with a 360 recommended, the cost evens out, i dont see a reason for the 10900k if the 5800x is in stock for you.