EVGA G2 650w with 5800x and 3080 constant blue screens

[DesMahaVailo]

I am getting a lot of blue screens (0x124 WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR) only when playing games or sometimes during benchmarks, but mainly playing games. Takes about 10-15 minutes.

 

I tried

• different RAM -> BSoD
• old graphics card -> OK (testet for about 2 hours)
• my 3080 in other PC -> OK (testet for about 2 hours)
• be quiet 600w pure power -> constant BSoD (can't even log in into Windows)
• disable CPB and PBO (CPU boosting) -> OK

 

Is my PSU the problem or the 5800x? Should I invest in a new PSU to test (only to find out the CPU can't properly boost regardless of PSU)?

[Skiiwee29]

Yes, the PSU is not able to supply the wattage necessary. You will need to get a higher wattage PSU, 850-1000w would be the ideal recommended range. 

[DesMahaVailo]

What I forgot to add, is that I took my PC to a friends house and we tested there for about 4 hours but could not reproduce any BSoD at all. Why was my PSU able to provide the wattage there?

Thanks for the quick reply. I will order a new PSU.

I have the following options:

 

Corsair RM850x 2018 white 165 Euro

Thermaltake GF1 ARGB 850w 215 Euro (but I have 150 Euro credits at that store)

 

Everything else is basically sold out

 

Which one would you recommend?

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, DesMahaVailo said:

What I forgot to add, is that I took my PC to a friends house and we tested there for about 4 hours but could not reproduce any BSoD at all. Why was my PSU able to provide the wattage there?

Thanks for the quick reply. I will order a new PSU.

I have the following options:

 

Corsair RM850x 2018 white 165 Euro

Thermaltake GF1 ARGB 850w 215 Euro (but I have 150 Euro credits at that store)

 

Which one would you recommend?

Corsair. I personally don't like Thermaltake and wouldn't recommend anything from them. 

 

Also, I know @jonnyGURUhas explained this in other threads that I have read, but you likely have dirty/noisy power in your house causing a signal issue. 

[mahyar]

Just now, DesMahaVailo said:

What I forgot to add, is that I took my PC to a friends house and we tested there for about 4 hours but could not reproduce any BSoD at all. Why was my PSU able to provide the wattage there?

Thanks for the quick reply. I will order a new PSU.

I have the following options:

 

Corsair RM850x 2018 white 165 Euro

v 215 Euro (but I have 150 Euro credits at that store)

 

Everything else is basically sold out

 

Which one would you recommend?

both are fantastic PSUs choose whichever you can buy 

[DesMahaVailo]

Ok, thank you both so very much! Altogether I did like debug this BSoD for about 30 hours in the last week (mostly over the weekend) and PSU was the most likely culprit. Thanks for the input on the issue

[paddy-stone]

I'd say a good 650W unit should be able to supply enough power, depends on your overclocks though of course, if you're running stock and it's still BSOD, then I'd say it might be that your power might be not clean enough. It might be worth you getting a UPS, but those can be costly too, so bare that in mind.

[DesMahaVailo]

One last question: Is there a difference between the RM850x 2018 white and RM850x 2018 black? Because I have just seen the Black one being 15 Euros cheaper and would match the system better.

[DesMahaVailo]

2 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

I'd say a good 650W unit should be able to supply enough power, depends on your overclocks though of course, if you're running stock and it's still BSOD, then I'd say it might be that your power might be not clean enough. It might be worth you getting a UPS, but those can be costly too, so bare that in mind.

Would a 850w fix the noise issue or would I still need a UPS even on this high a power supply?

[paddy-stone]

1 minute ago, DesMahaVailo said:

Would a 850w fix the noise issue or would I still need a UPS even on this high a power supply?

That's a tough call, you could get an 850W and it still has this problem if the power coming in is not clean enough. But on the other hand this could happen even with the UPS, cos we don't know what the actual problem is. 

If the problem is the PSU isn't high enough rated, then you'd need a higher PSU like an 850W.

If the problem is noise, then an 850W PSU most likely won't fix that.

 

If you have a friend that has an 850W+ PSU you could ask if you could borrow it to see... a well rated one though as a low rate one might not make the grade still.

[DesMahaVailo]

8 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

That's a tough call, you could get an 850W and it still has this problem if the power coming in is not clean enough. But on the other hand this could happen even with the UPS, cos we don't know what the actual problem is. 

If the problem is the PSU isn't high enough rated, then you'd need a higher PSU like an 850W.

If the problem is noise, then an 850W PSU most likely won't fix that.

 

If you have a friend that has an 850W+ PSU you could ask if you could borrow it to see... a well rated one though as a low rate one might not make the grade still.

I can't really borrow one unfortunately. On the other hand, I did have this PSU with a Ryzen 3600 and a 1080ti for 4 years in the same room on the same socket without problems.

Also, one last question: Is there a difference between the RM850x 2018 white and RM850x 2018 black? Because I have just seen the Black one being 15 Euros cheaper and would match the system better.

[lgcas]

14 minutes ago, DesMahaVailo said:

I can't really borrow one unfortunately. On the other hand, I did have this PSU with a Ryzen 3600 and a 1080ti for 4 years in the same room on the same socket without problems.

Also, one last question: Is there a difference between the RM850x 2018 white and RM850x 2018 black? Because I have just seen the Black one being 15 Euros cheaper and would match the system better.

The only difference is the colour.

[paddy-stone]

43 minutes ago, DesMahaVailo said:

I can't really borrow one unfortunately. On the other hand, I did have this PSU with a Ryzen 3600 and a 1080ti for 4 years in the same room on the same socket without problems.

Also, one last question: Is there a difference between the RM850x 2018 white and RM850x 2018 black? Because I have just seen the Black one being 15 Euros cheaper and would match the system better.

Ahh OK, that narrows it down a bit then with the extra info... it's most likely then just the peak power draw isn't enough now with the higher power usage of the new CPU/GPU.

[RTXOutOfStockEdition]

5800x and 3080 should not draw more than 500W. Try using a UPS.

[SavageNeo]

19 hours ago, RTXOutOfStockEdition said:

5800x and 3080 should not draw more than 500W. Try using a UPS.

they use around that, if the power spikes are not counted.

if i remeber right the 3080 can spike up to 600-700w range for 20ms or so every now and then. that will make pretty much any 550-650w psu trip their OCP and shutdown the system. good quality 750w psus can handle it, but that is not 100% sure either

[Ankerson]

21 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

if i remeber right the 3080 can spike up to 600-700w range for 20ms or so every now and then.

 

976W..

[chocolatekarma]

Your PSU is well below the level of both quality and wattage that your CPU and GPU have.  You should have a 1000+ watt platinum.

[Owl_unboxing]

1000watt is too much. With 850watt you will be fine

[SavageNeo]

On 2/17/2021 at 8:35 PM, chocolatekarma said:

Your PSU is well below the level of both quality and wattage that your CPU and GPU have.  You should have a 1000+ watt platinum.

1000w? mmayby at higher end rtx 3090 models.

 

with 3080 you are fine with good quality 750w-850w unit.

 

while the 3080 van spike to over 900w on quality units the OPP is set higher than the 950+w so your system wont crash

[chocolatekarma]

3 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

1000w? mmayby at higher end rtx 3090 models.

 

with 3080 you are fine with good quality 750w-850w unit.

 

while the 3080 van spike to over 900w on quality units the OPP is set higher than the 950+w so your system wont crash

There have been reports of systems doing self shutdowns when they have 100+ watt CPU's + a 3080 with an 850 watt PSU.  And don't you understand the concept of having more watts than you need?  PSU's are most efficient at 50-60% load.  A bronze at 50% offers very near gold efficiency.  Stressing a PSU is bad for it and the rest of the hardware.

[SavageNeo]

33 minutes ago, chocolatekarma said:

There have been reports of systems doing self shutdowns when they have 100+ watt CPU's + a 3080 with an 850 watt PSU. 

probably bad quality or not so good quality unit then.

my friend runs rtx 3080 with corsair rmx650w. also someone in the forums did run rtx 3080 with rmx650w too with eaz. 

 

Also have not heard any reports about 3080s crashing with decent quality 850w units.