hwinfo can now read GDDR6X temps

[porina]

Via: https://www.igorslab.de/en/hwinfo-becomes-version-4-62-also-the-gddr6x-temperatures-of-ampere-cards-can-display-launch-today/

 

Pretty much as subject. Apparently the latest beta version of hwinfo can read the vram temp. What you do with it, I'll leave to the user. Since I'm not one of the 420 people worldwide with an Ampere card can't try it out myself.

[Prodigy_Smit]

Pretty cool but I don't see any use for a normal user besides more values to get confused at.

[Moonzy]

does all D6X have individual temp sensor? i can try it out tmrw when my PSU arrive

[porina]

3 minutes ago, Prodigy_Smit said:

Pretty cool but I don't see any use for a normal user besides more values to get confused at.

It wont be for everyone, but tinkerers might find something to do with it.

 

2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

does all D6X have individual temp sensor? i can try it out tmrw when my PSU arrive

No idea. Given there's multiple modules, I don't know if that is a single chip, an average, a maximum, or whatever. There might be some discussion somewhere...

[Moonzy]

Just now, porina said:

No idea. Given there's multiple modules, I don't know if that is a single chip, an average, a maximum, or whatever. There might be some discussion somewhere...

i'll give it a try on my msi 3090 gaming x trio tmrw (supposedly) when my psu arrives

[Spotty]

Hwinfo64: Here's your GDDR6X memory temps
HWmonitor: What's GDDR6X?

Speccy: What's a graphics card?

[porina]

10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

does all D6X have individual temp sensor?

From https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/hwinfo-v6-42-released.7016/#post-28586

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A note regarding the new GDDR6X Memory Junction Temperature:
Just like in case of Navi, this is not the external (case) temperature, but internal junction temperature measured inside the silicon.
So don't be scared to see higher values than other common temperatures, it's expected. Also the limits are set respectively higher (throttling starts around 110 C).

 

[Stahlmann]

Nice, more temp readouts besides my 10 unnamed temp sensors on my mainboard where idk what temp they measure or where they are 

 

Could be useful, but reviewers will keep disassembling the cards to install their own sensors rather than rely on these.

[porina]

1 hour ago, Stahlmann said:

Could be useful, but reviewers will keep disassembling the cards to install their own sensors rather than rely on these.

If they do so and verify the numbers are not totally wrong, it would be useful for enthusiasts who don't want to go that far to trust the reported value. Of course, with the comment I put above, apparently this is the junction temperature inside the die, so any externally measured value will be lower.

[Mark Kaine]

What DDR thingy do I even have, what about us none x6 peasants? (assuming I don't have it)  :x

 

 

1 hour ago, Stahlmann said:

Nice, more temp readouts besides my 10 unnamed temp sensors on my mainboard where idk what temp they measure or where they are 

 

Could be useful, but reviewers will keep disassembling the cards to install their own sensors rather than rely on these.

True, I don't know what like 80% of these are, "tempin1-6" and whatever.. (using hwmonitor, as hwinfo is way too confusing) 

[Stahlmann]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

What DDR thingy do I even have, what about us none x6 peasants? (assuming I don't have it)  :x

As you have a 3070, you're a non-x peasant. Your card has regular GDDR6.

 

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

True, I don't know what like 80% of these are, "tempin1-6" and whatever.. (using hwmonitor, as hwinfo is way too confusing) 

I've tried a few different monitoring softwares, but they don't have a name no matter where i look.

[Stahlmann]

2 hours ago, Prodigy_Smit said:

Pretty cool but I don't see any use for a normal user besides more values to get confused at.

Isn't that what HWInfo64 is all about? I've stopped using it because there were millions of sensors and readouts. HWMonitor is much better in this regard imo.

[Mark Kaine]

9 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

As you have a 3070, you're a non-x peasant. Your card has regular GDDR6.

I'm just going to assume again this cheapo version doesn't have sensors then... 

 

Although the 1070 ftw I had had sensors for almost everything, pretty sure at least for the vram - not very useful at all as it always was just slightly cooler than the *two* sensors for GPU temp... 

 

9 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

 

 

I've tried a few different monitoring softwares, but they don't have a name no matter where i look.

yeah it's really kinda confusing when things are named arbitrary and often impossible to find out, even if you find something you often get 3 or more different opinions on what it really is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[WhitetailAni]

I wonder if this will ever apply to me before I'm 16.

Considering that my VRAM options are GDDR5 or GDDR5, not likely.

[Moonzy]

useful tool indeed, my 3090 kept throttling and i didnt know why, did some google and some suggested VRAM overheating

 

 

this is after i added a fan, geez

[AngryBeaver]

What is everyone seeing for ram temps? I am not sure my block is doing thr best job on them. Under stress testing I see gpu core temps in the sub 40c range, but my ram temps are in the 55-65c range. I know these are hotter than previous gddr used, but I am also concerned that this block isn't doing a great job making firm contact.

[Stahlmann]

On 1/27/2021 at 4:08 PM, Moonzy said:

useful tool indeed, my 3090 kept throttling and i didnt know why, did some google and some suggested VRAM overheating

 

 

this is after i added a fan, geez

Just tested my 3080 yesterday. Memory junction stays pretty much at 95°C while gaming. I really thought a custom water cooled card would run a lot cooler. The GPU core only gets to around 55°C when the water is fully heated up. My memory didn't throttle yet, but i guess we'll see how the 30-series cards will hold up in the long run...

[Moonzy]

On 1/27/2021 at 11:17 PM, AngryBeaver said:

What is everyone seeing for ram temps? I am not sure my block is doing thr best job on them. Under stress testing I see gpu core temps in the sub 40c range, but my ram temps are in the 55-65c range. I know these are hotter than previous gddr used, but I am also concerned that this block isn't doing a great job making firm contact.

It's normal for the VRAM reading to be slightly higher because it's junction temp, not edge temp, at least that's what I heard

The throttling temp is 110c from what I can tell, so you're still ways away from there and should be fine

 

3 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Just tested my 3080 yesterday. Memory junction stays pretty much at 95°C while gaming. I really thought a custom water cooled card would run a lot cooler. The GPU core only gets to around 55°C when the water is fully heated up. My memory didn't throttle yet, but i guess we'll see how the 30-series cards will hold up in the long run...

90c under water for 3080 under gaming load? I would think it to be lower unless the water block doesn't cool the VRAM that well

[Stahlmann]

5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

90c under water for 3080 under gaming load? I would think it to be lower unless the water block doesn't cool the VRAM that well

Played Borderlands 3 (@4K, so load is as heavy as it gets) on the weekend and let HWInfo run in the background for a few hours. The max reported temp was 95°C for the GDDR6X junction. I'm using the Alphacool aurora block, which fully covers the DIE, VRAM, and VRM's. I would also have expected to get a lot cooler G6X. Then again, i didn't really do any research yet to see what normal G6X temps are with a custom water block. With the throttling temp sitting at 110°C i'm still 15°C off, so i guess it will be fine.

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

Played Borderlands 3 (@4K, so load is as heavy as it gets) on the weekend and let HWInfo run in the background for a few hours. The max reported temp was 95°C for the GDDR6X junction. I'm using the Alphacool aurora block, which fully covers the DIE, VRAM, and VRM's. I would also have expected to get a lot cooler G6X. Then again, i didn't really do any research yet to see what normal G6X temps are with a custom water block. With the throttling temp sitting at 110°C i'M still 15°C off, so i guess it will be fine.

From what I've seen around the tech news thread and this thread, water-cooled 3080 have VRAM temps below 70, but I'm not too sure how accurate that is, maybe someone will have to dig deeper into this rabbit hole

 

3090 have VRAM on the backside, so that's a whole other story to cover -sigh-

[Stahlmann]

14 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

3090 have VRAM on the backside, so that's a whole other story to cover -sigh-

I've seen the EKWB water block is actually cooling both sides of the PCB. Very interesting design, but extremely expensive.

 

EDIT: Also i'm running a +500 OC on my memory. Maybe this makes it run so much hotter. I'd have to try again when i'm home.

[Moonzy]

6 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

EDIT: Also i'm running a +500 OC on my memory. Maybe this makes it run so much hotter. I'd have to try again when i'm home.

From my experience with my 3090, every 100mhz raises temp by roughly 1c, going from +800-1200mhz

Though hwinfo can only display the temp in 2c steps, it jumps between two states so I take the avg reading

 

So +500 definitely won't bring it from 70c to 90c, not that I know of

[AngryBeaver]

4 hours ago, Moonzy said:

From what I've seen around the tech news thread and this thread, water-cooled 3080 have VRAM temps below 70, but I'm not too sure how accurate that is, maybe someone will have to dig deeper into this rabbit hole

 

3090 have VRAM on the backside, so that's a whole other story to cover -sigh-

My mining temps with 1002mhz on memory can hit 88c from timd to time. I double checked and my memory all has thermal pads making contact with the block. The back plate gets hot as F, so I know it is doing it's job.

 

The only thing I can think of would be to water cool the back too, but so far all of those options us tiny tubes to connect it and seem to be a disaster to make look clean.