Can low amperage affect the performance of / damage my components?

[KageSong]

Well, the question is basically the whole thing.

Basically, I recently learned that even though I have 200 amps coming into the house, the breaker box handles only 100 amps.

I learned this from a previously stated performance issue, that seems to be only related to this house, as I don't have the same issues elsewhere.

Since then I've been showing signs that I perceive as damage. Specifically, I seem to have issues when using tensor/rt cores where I didn't used to.

The first thing I noticed, and biggest, was during the Port Royal benchmark, where the lighting began shifting separately from the rest of the scene. Kind of like screen tearing, but the lighting separating from the rest.

[Letgomyleghoe]

It's literally not a problem, 120v and 100 amps is still 12000w potential, also AFAIK there's no damage that can be cause to household devices from a lack of power.

 

as for fixing your lighting issue, what are you full system specs, have you tried DDU?

[KageSong]

6 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

It's literally not a problem, 120v and 100 amps is still 12000w potential, also AFAIK there's no damage that can be cause to household devices from a lack of power.

 

as for fixing your lighting issue, what are you full system specs, have you tried DDU?

I have. 2060 super, 3600, 16 GB @3600. The power in this house is definitely affecting it somehow, as I have no problems except the lighting at my dad's, who has modern power. Here I have a lot of issues, which I covered in a different thread.

[Letgomyleghoe]

5 minutes ago, KageSong said:

I have. 2060 super, 3600, 16 GB @3600. The power in this house is definitely affecting it somehow, as I have no problems except the lighting at my dad's, who has modern power. Here I have a lot of issues, which I covered in a different thread.

notice how the total potential is still twelve thousand watts, your system probably draws 400max. you would have to use a substantial amount of power through other devices to max out your breaker, which would just result in it tripping anyway.

 

can you list all of your problems, a full parts list and other steps you've used to troubleshoot please?

[KageSong]

Just now, Letgomyleghoe said:

notice how the total potential is still twelve thousand watts, your system probably draws 400max. you would have to use a substantial amount of power through other devices to max out your breaker, which would just result in it tripping anyway.

 

can you list all of your problems, a full parts list and other steps you've used to troubleshoot please?

The test that matters is that at my dad's house, no problems. At my house problems. You're asking me to go in circles here.

But sure, I don't know what other parts you'd want, a 750 watt psu, I suppose.

Also, I draw up to 530 watts according to my testing.

Wattage is not the issue I'm trying to address, amperage is.

Testing revolves mostly around streaming.

Using the exact same internet (except I have a faster d/l speed), at my house, I drop frames like crazy on stream. At my dad's I do not.

Now at either house, I am losing performance on tensor/rt cores.

The computer is pretty much on it's own breaker along with only my monitor, printer, modem and router.

No, it's not my internet, outside of the ISP has told me, big shock, their is unstable amperage.

[AbydosOne]

1 minute ago, KageSong said:

Wattage is not the issue I'm trying to address, amperage is.

Assuming essentially constant voltage, wattage is directly correlated to amperage. (W = V × A)

 

2 minutes ago, KageSong said:

Using the exact same internet (except I have a faster d/l speed), at my house, I drop frames like crazy on stream. At my dad's I do not.

Now at either house, I am losing performance on tensor/rt cores.

The computer is pretty much on it's own breaker along with only my monitor, printer, modem and router.

No, it's not my internet, outside of the ISP has told me, big shock, their is unstable amperage.

This sounds more like network and/or driver issues, not external power problems.

[Jurrunio]

First of all it's the power supplies job to make sure the whole PC gets the rated voltages regardless of the power network it's hooked up to (that's in spec for the input of the PSU of course). Either your power circuit needs rebuilding (since input voltage range of PSUs are pretty big compared to their outputs), or the PSU's no good.

 

Need more info.

[KageSong]

1 minute ago, AbydosOne said:

Assuming essentially constant voltage, wattage is directly correlated to amperage. (W = V × A)

 

This sounds more like network and/or driver issues, not external power problems.

... ... ... The variable is external to my computer. The only variable is the house the computer is at. Therefore the problem has to be something that the house is causing. If it was drivers or my network adapter then I would have issues at both houses.

[Letgomyleghoe]

1 minute ago, KageSong said:

amperage is.

Amps x Voltage = Watts 

you have plenty of plower.

there's another issue going on of some sort.

Try using DDU, and getting actual benchmarks to see if frames are always dropping, reality is not often what it seems.

 

[KageSong]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

First of all it's the power supplies job to make sure the whole PC gets the rated voltages regardless of the power network it's hooked up to (that's in spec for the input of the PSU of course). Either your power circuit needs rebuilding, or the PSU's no good.

 

Need more info.

On this logic, it would have to be the power circuit. As I've stated various times, this happens only at my own house, not at other places. The only constant problem is the newest being the lighting stuff. That's the only problem I have at my dad's house, while at home I have VRAM and RAM errors, dropped frames on my stream, etc.

[AbydosOne]

3 minutes ago, KageSong said:

... ... ... The variable is external to my computer. The only variable is the house the computer is at. Therefore the problem has to be something that the house is causing. If it was drivers or my network adapter then I would have issues at both houses.

I bet you don't have the same modem/router/Ethernet cables/upstream ISP equipment at both houses... it can be anything in the chain.

[KageSong]

Just now, Letgomyleghoe said:

Amps x Voltage = Watts 

you have plenty of plower.

there's another issue going on of some sort.

Try using DDU, and getting actual benchmarks to see if frames are always dropping, reality is not often what it seems.

 

Okay, I'm just going to disregard this now, because I've gone in circles about you saying this type of thing.

[KageSong]

Just now, AbydosOne said:

I bet you don't have the same modem/route/Ethernet cables/upstream ISP equipment at both houses... it can be anything in the chain.

Same ISP, same ISP modem.

[AbydosOne]

Just now, KageSong said:

Same ISP, same ISP modem.

Literally the same modem? If not, one could have an issue and the other not. There could be higher noise or other traffic on one connection vs the other.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, KageSong said:

On this logic, it would have to be the power circuit. As I've stated various times, this happens only at my own house, not at other places. The only constant problem is the newest being the lighting stuff. That's the only problem I have at my dad's house, while at home I have VRAM and RAM errors, dropped frames on my stream, etc.

the only way to tell then is have the voltage from wall monitored. If you dont have the equipment you need an electrician.

 

the monitor could also be suffering, normally odd colours from the graphics card will soon crash the system since it's a sign that the graphics card is building up errors.

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

I bet you don't have the same modem/route/Ethernet cables/upstream ISP equipment at both houses... it can be anything in the chain.

I dont get how different networking can cause memory issues, computers can run without networking to begin with.

[KageSong]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

the only way to tell then is have the voltage from wall monitored. If you dont have the equipment you need an electrician.

 

the monitor could also be suffering, normally odd colours from the graphics card will soon crash the system since it's a sign that the graphics card is building up errors.

Voltage is fine. Wattage is fine. The ONLY THING that has been different is amperage. How many times have I said this already?

[AbydosOne]

Just now, KageSong said:

Voltage is fine. Wattage is fine. The ONLY THING that has been different is amperage.

That makes no sense. P = IV, day two of electrical engineering. (How many times have I said this already?)

 

If anything, you have voltage issues from large current draws. Buy a UPS and see if that solves the issue, because there's not much else you can do beside rewire the entire house and/or neighborhood.

[KageSong]

Just now, AbydosOne said:

That makes no sense. P = IV, day two of electrical engineering. (How many times have I said this already?)

 

If anything, you have voltage issues from large current draws. Buy a UPS and see if that solves the issue, because there's not much else you can do beside rewire the entire house and/or neighborhood.

I'm on a UPS. That's how I know my wattage and voltage are consistent.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, KageSong said:

Voltage is fine. Wattage is fine. The ONLY THING that has been different is amperage. How many times have I said this already?

Math and physics say it's not fine. Current draw (current flow) is determined by voltage (potential of electrons, basically) and resistance (to current flow). If you have problem with too high resistance, it wont boot at all (think of turning off a switch). If resistance is too low, something will go pop because power going through components will be too high.

 

You cannot think of amperage as a independent variable, for electronics it's a dependent variable.

[KageSong]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Math and physics say it's not fine. Current draw (current flow) is determined by voltage (potential of electrons, basically) and resistance (to current flow). If you have problem with too high resistance, it wont boot at all because it's not getting enough power. If resistance is too low, something will go pop because power going through components will be too high.

 

You cannot think of amperage as a independent variable, for electronics it's a dependent variable.

The real point I'm trying to make is that I was getting frustrate at people picking at variables that would be internal to my computer. I can monitor wattage and voltage, and they are where they should be. The only difference between the two houses is amperage, where my dad's is properly at 200 amps, and my breaker only handles 100. Hence the nature of my question.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, KageSong said:

I'm on a UPS. That's how I know my wattage and voltage are consistent.

I dont trust UPS readings just like those on fancy PSUs, they just arent accurate. Besides if UPS cannot correct a electric circuit problem in the house, itself is pointless.

[KageSong]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

I dont trust UPS readings just like those on fancy PSUs, they just arent accurate. Besides if UPS cannot correct a electric circuit problem in the house, itself is pointless.

It's also been tested by an electrician, which is how I found that the breaker only accepts 100 amps. My dad has also tested the outlets with his own equipment.

[Vishera]

9 minutes ago, KageSong said:

... ... ... The variable is external to my computer. The only variable is the house the computer is at. Therefore the problem has to be something that the house is causing. If it was drivers or my network adapter then I would have issues at both houses.

Dirty power is a power problem that can make computers act up,a UPS can help with that.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, KageSong said:

It's also been tested by an electrician, which is how I found that the breaker only accepts 100 amps. My dad has also tested the outlets with his own equipment.

Best gaming PCs with 2 graphics cards dont even exceed 15 amps even if your country uses 100V power (10900k OC = 300w, 2x RTX 3090 OC = 800w, 1.3x counting for inefficiencies and other components), 100A breaker to 200A breaker makes no difference. If it does, those breakers are way overrated compared to their actual capability.