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RTX 3050 speculation

I've been generally unimpressed with NVidia's 16-series, and now with their 3060 Ti coming in at $400, I'm really starting to wonder whether we'll ever see another $100-$130 GPU from NVidia. The RX 470 will soon turn 5, with no clear succcessor

 

Rumors- 

 

 

wccftech was bang on about the specs for the rest of the cards... 

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3060-ti-rtx-3050-ti-rtx-3050-launch-specs-rumor/

 

It's evidently much faster than, say, a 1650 Super from the specs alone. I suspect it'll perform somewhat like a 2060 super, for around $200, and be out sometime between January and April 2021

 

 

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Ugh, I hate the 90w TDP with 6 Pin connector. 

The 3000 series is a f#cking mess in terms of power consumption. 

 

I want a card to replace my 1050Ti and it has to be equally silent, smaller and ofc lots faster. 

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6 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Ugh, I hate the 90w TDP with 6 Pin connector. 

The 3000 series is a f#cking mess in terms of power consumption. 

 

I want a card to replace my 1050Ti and it has to be equally silent, smaller and ofc lots faster. 

Yep this is what i want, its so useful when making small builds like the Toaster :D Cheap, low TDP and alright speed

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if 3050 is 90W, i guess we're not getting a card without pcie power pins this gen?

unless 3030 or smth comes along 2630

 

i wish they could just ditch the RT cores on lower end gpu, it's not worth turning on for lower end cards anyways

but this could create confusion so idk if it's the right thing to do hmm...

 

unrelated but: im surprised they used the Ti name this early in the generation already

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23 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Ugh, I hate the 90w TDP with 6 Pin connector. 

That's happened before with the GTX 950 - though I still hate it.

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

if 3050 is 90W, i guess we're not getting a card without pcie power pins this gen?

unless 3030 or smth comes along 2630

 

i wish they could just ditch the RT cores on lower end gpu, it's not worth turning on for lower end cards anyways

but this could create confusion so idk if it's the right thing to do hmm...

 

unrelated but: im surprised they used the Ti name this early in the generation already

I'm not sure what is the value of having Ray Tracing in hardware like the RTX does. Or the said hardware at this time is not really ready for that.

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12 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i wish they could just ditch the RT cores on lower end gpu, it's not worth turning on for lower end cards anyways

but this could create confusion so idk if it's the right thing to do hmm...

I like the idea of a low end card with RT cores, because iirc that's what makes DLSS possible, which would be HUGE for low-end cards.

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I'm not sure what is the value of having Ray Tracing in hardware like the RTX does. Or the said hardware at this time is not really ready for that.

DLSS apparently

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3060Ti: $400.

3060: $300.

3050Ti: $200.

3050: ~$150?!

 

Well, a Man can dream! Pun intended. 

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1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

I like the idea of a low end card with RT cores, because iirc that's what makes DLSS possible, which would be HUGE for low-end cards.

Tensor cores are nice, Nvidia broadcast and such is nice

But ray tracing cores just aren't really useful unless in high-end cards when fps is already plentiful and can sacrifice some for eye-candy

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1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

DLSS apparently

DLSS? Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the "Latest and Greatest", as I tend to buy Mid-Range hardware anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

I like the idea of a low end card with RT cores, because iirc that's what makes DLSS possible, which would be HUGE for low-end cards.

Not RT cores, but Tensor cores.

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Just now, Man said:

3060Ti: $400.

3060: $300.

3050Ti: $200.

3050 vanilla: ~$150?!

 

Well, a Man can dream! Pun intended. 

3060Ti: 400
3060: 359.99
3050Ti: 319.99
3050: 299.79
 

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32 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Ugh, I hate the 90w TDP with 6 Pin connector. 

The 3000 series is a f#cking mess in terms of power consumption. 

 

I want a card to replace my 1050Ti and it has to be equally silent, smaller and ofc lots faster. 

Personally, it wouldn't be "too bad" to get 1080 / 2060S / Vega 64 level performance in a sub 100W package.

 

Besides, almost all 1050Tis come with a 6-pin anyway so it's not the end of the world, as far as I'm concerned!

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1 minute ago, Man said:

3060Ti: $400.

3060: $300.

This would already be a huge stretch. Considering the GTX 1660 ti at $280 and the 1660 at $230, I'd expect the 3060 to be $350. 

 

I could easily see the 3050 and 3050 ti being $225 and $275 respectively, smh.

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20 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

This would already be a huge stretch. Considering the GTX 1660 ti at $280 and the 1660 at $230, I'd

 

23 minutes ago, PriitM said:

3060Ti: 400
3060: 359.99

Well, there's a pretty noticeable difference between the two cards; as per Tech Power Up's specs sheet:

 

3060.jpg.71f0c6cb43699704c3be1b07325ee04c.jpg

 

+20% rasterization (judging by the number of cores and TMUs), +20% render units, +25% memory bandwidth, 6GB vs. 8GB vRAM, not the mention the different graphics processor (GA104 vs. 106). The gap between them is about as wide as the one between 1660 Super (~$220) and 2060 Super (~$400). 

 

The way I see it, the 3060Ti should've been the 3070 and the 3070 should've been the 3070Ti.

 

Anyhow, I'm merely speculating at the moment! Let's wait patiently and see how things unfold. 

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The 1650 was an absolute monster for what it was. At 75w being able to draw power from the PCI-E slot it was the default choice add-in card for OEMs like DELL and HP, who account for the vast majority of PC hardware sales. They may not be great for gaming (although they can handle nearly anything at 1080p 60FPS), they also have Nvidia's Studio Drivers, for light production work.

I've personally installed close to 100 of these cards in my area alone as we set up small business devices, and they are a great value at $149.99 USD. (they often sell for less in bulk).

I'd rather have the 1650 than the RX 570 any day of the week - both cards have 4GB of VRAM and the 1650 will be cooler and provide better performance, with one major caveat; the 1650 is only available with 4GB of VRAM where the RX 570 can be found with 8GB - in this comparison, the RX 570 will be a bit better, but it will also be more expensive.

IMO if the RTX 3050 draws more than 75w it's doomed to fail if not DOA. It would fail to feed the market that he 50 series cards have historically served.

Having said that, there is nothing wrong with 3rd party OEMs making cards that draw more, as long the base spec allows for 75w. You can find variants of the 1650 that run strictly on the 75w from the the MB, and some require 6-pin PCIE power because they've been OC'd at the factory.

As both a professional in hardware sales and config, and a consumer, I can say with confidence that if NVIDIA does release a 75w RTX 3050, There will be hundreds of sales in my small area alone. (as long as it's better than the 1650 - otherwise that will continue to be the card of choice).

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