rtx3080 or rtx3070

[Guest]

im planning a new build thinking intel 10700k or 11700k if its out when i have enough funds saved which should be february. should i get rtx3080 or 3070 its 200$ more on a $3000 build thats not alot

sorry not interested in any amd products have had horrible experiences in the past

 

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

3000$ and a 3080 makes sense. Though, i would urge you to take a look at a r7 option when zen 3 comes out. It would be available before next year, so its not like you would have to wait.

[AndrewZScorpion]

4 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

3000$ and a 3080 makes sense. Though, i would urge you to take a look at a r7 option when zen 3 comes out. It would be available before next year, so its not like you would have to wait.

Maybe even Ryzen 9 if prices aren't crazy.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

3000$ and a 3080 makes sense. Though, i would urge you to take a look at a r7 option when zen 3 comes out. It would be available before next year, so its not like you would have to wait.

sorry not interested in any amd products have had horrible experiences in the past

[SolarNova]

12 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

im planning a new build thinking intel 10700k or 11700k if its out when i have enough funds saved which should be february. should i get rtx3080 or 3070 its 200$ more on a $3000 build thats not alot

sorry not interested in any amd products have had horrible experiences in the past

 

 

what ur target resolution (what display do u have ?)

 

bassicaly if u looking at 1080p, u dont want o waste ur money on a 3080.

 

If ur looking a 144hz+ 1440p then sure a 3080 is ok

 

And most certainly if ur looking at 4k 60hz+ ull need atleast a 3080.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

3000$ and a 3080 makes sense. Though, i would urge you to take a look at a r7 option when zen 3 comes out. It would be available before next year, so its not like you would have to wait.

build specs right now is planned at 

intel 10700k (or 11700k if available when i build)

asus tuf z490 plus wifi motherboard

corsair vengence lpx 16gb 3200 mhz

corsair hx850i psu

phanteks p600s in grey

asus rtx3070 or rtx 3080

noctua nh-d15 chromax black

all fans have been switched to 140mm noctua chromax black fans. 

 

[EridanusSV]

Lenny. Do you really need a 3080.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

19 minutes ago, EridanusSV said:

Lenny. Do you really need a 3080.

3000 on a build, and not a high end GPU?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, EridanusSV said:

Lenny. Do you really need a 3080.

technically i dont need anything. do i need to game? do i need to have the fastest pc in my building? the answer is no... do i want? now that is a question. 

its 3000 canadian so like 2000 usd

im just afraid that the 10700k is not enough for the 3080. i was even thinking a 3070 might be a bit of a stretch. but i seen some people running 10700k and 2080ti's so but going to a 3080 is another big jump

[Zberg]

1 hour ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

its 3000 canadian so like 2000 usd

im just afraid that the 10700k is not enough for the 3080.

2000 USD the 3080 is the perfect spot IMO.  Honestly if there was one tier above at 1000 that would be perfect.  Assuming of course this is for gaming.  As much GPU as possible, can cheap out on other stuff.

 

The 10700k is enough.  Watch the GN video, they used a 10700k, its pretty much as fast as it gets.  In multiple slides he had, the 3080 wasn't that much of a stretch over a well OC'd 2080ti, and neither of them are CPU bottlenecking unless you are playing some crazy 1080p high refresh.  Throwing any more money away on more CPU horsepower will give diminishing returns when compared to putting that into GPU.  3080 is the sweet spot for a 2000 build, esp if you will be playing at 1440p or above

[Exeon]

Honestly if you can afford either card I will recommend the 3080, 99% of the time

I believe the extra VRAM and bandwith is going to be worth it over the 3070, I also firmely believe that because of the VRAM I would still take a 2080TI over the 3070 anyday if the price was similar.

That said, we can't say anything without benchmarks, NVIDIA said the 3070 is going to be as fast, if not slightly faster than the 2080TI, they also said the 3080 was going to be double the 2080, sure in some rendering aplications it is, in gaming it's more like 75%, could be the same for the 3070.

 

So yes I would go with the 3080

 

Most people here are going to recommend Intel over AMD CPU´s right now.

I would say, don't let others tell you what to do, the benchmarks are out there, AMD wins in most areas but gaming from what I can tell.

 

The 10700K will not bottleneck you heck even the 9000 series won't bottleneck you, performance will be better the higher you go, but at some point it's not worth the price to upgrade, unless you are a first person shooter proffesional gamer and need over 300FPS at 1080p then maybe

 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

13 hours ago, xg32 said:

the 10700k can draw up to 325w oc'd and will at least be a small bottleneck for the 3080 on 1440p, the system power draw is gonna be 700w on load

If you shove 1.5V into the CPU, max out the 3080, and run Prime95 and Furmark alongside your game, yeah. Otherwise that 700W number sounds way blown out of proportion.

Also, if a 10700K bottlenecks the 3080 at 1440p, what makes you so sure that Zen 3 won't?

[Dedayog]

14 hours ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

im planning a new build thinking intel 10700k or 11700k if its out when i have enough funds saved which should be february. should i get rtx3080 or 3070 its 200$ more on a $3000 build thats not alot

sorry not interested in any amd products have had horrible experiences in the past

 

 

We covered this the other day, wait.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Zberg said:

2000 USD the 3080 is the perfect spot IMO.  Honestly if there was one tier above at 1000 that would be perfect.  Assuming of course this is for gaming.  As much GPU as possible, can cheap out on other stuff.

 

The 10700k is enough.  Watch the GN video, they used a 10700k, its pretty much as fast as it gets.  In multiple slides he had, the 3080 wasn't that much of a stretch over a well OC'd 2080ti, and neither of them are CPU bottlenecking unless you are playing some crazy 1080p high refresh.  Throwing any more money away on more CPU horsepower will give diminishing returns when compared to putting that into GPU.  3080 is the sweet spot for a 2000 build, esp if you will be playing at 1440p or above

That’s my idea is buy at the sweet spot. Right now a 10700k is 500 Canadian and a 10900k is over 1000 Canadian I can’t justify that jump in cost. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

We covered this the other day, wait.

The other day was about a 10700k or 11700k today I’m asking about rtx3070 or 3080

[Dedayog]

26 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

The other day was about a 10700k or 11700k today I’m asking about rtx3070 or 3080

I meant the concept of not pre-planning 5-6 months out

 

Cuz I guarantee you're going to ask again in January or February.  Things may be different, after more testing and usage of the 3080 and 3070 are out.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I meant the concept of not pre-planning 5-6 months out

 

Cuz I guarantee you're going to ask again in January or February.  Things may be different, after more testing and usage of the 3080 and 3070 are out.

Once the decision has been made its made as I’m buy parts piece by piece.

[Moonzy]

7 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

Once the decision has been made its made as I’m buy parts piece by piece.

honestly it's a bad idea unless you can confirm it works right when you get it due to return period and what not

 

casing and PSU are generally fine to purchase earlier during a sale (as long as you can make sure they work properly right when you receive them), but the CPU MOBO RAM comes in a set, and you need those for a GPU, which makes up 90% of the cost of the PC for the most part, so people just buy everything in one go

 

as for your main question, 3080 if it can be fit into your budget, of course.

but take note you can only fully utilize it on 1440p high refresh rate, and I would even say at high/ultra settings for games today.

 

and a 10700k vs 10900k wont differ too much in games, not enough to warrant the extra price hike.

 

as for the people pushing you to get AMD

guys, mention it once, justify it, and if people wants to stay on their platform of choice, let them, it's their choice, stop nagging.

[WkdPaul]

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If you're not interested in helping the OP choose between the 3070 and 3080, then please don't reply and move on.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Moonzy said:

honestly it's a bad idea unless you can confirm it works right when you get it due to return period and what not

 

casing and PSU are generally fine to purchase earlier during a sale (as long as you can make sure they work properly right when you receive them), but the CPU MOBO RAM comes in a set, and you need those for a GPU, which makes up 90% of the cost of the PC for the most part, so people just buy everything in one go

 

as for your main question, 3080 if it can be fit into your budget, of course.

but take note you can only fully utilize it on 1440p high refresh rate, and I would even say at high/ultra settings for games today.

 

and a 10700k vs 10900k wont differ too much in games, not enough to warrant the extra price hike.

 

as for the people pushing you to get AMD

guys, mention it once, justify it, and if people wants to stay on their platform of choice, let them, it's their choice, stop nagging.

yea i bought case and fans, im gonna buy a fan controller and psu next, all of which i can test, then im gonna get ram, mobo and cpu in one shot to test it. then gpu last. i will be getting a samsung oddssey g7 32" after pc is all built. 

[Moonzy]

9 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

samsung oddssey g7 32"

do note that not many games can run above 200FPS even on the best CPU (due to CPU bottleneck more than anything, and turning down graphical settings does not alleviate this)

mostly competitive titles and light games (some game engine breaks when surpassed certain FPS too, so take note)

so make sure your game can run above 250FPS before you splurge on a premium 240Hz panel.

 

that said, having G-sync compatible makes it good at any fps, just take note that you're not fully utilizing it.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

do note that not many games can run above 200FPS even on the best CPU (due to CPU bottleneck more than anything, and turning down graphical settings does not alleviate this)

most competitive titles and light games (some game engine breaks when surpassed certain FPS too, so take note)

so make sure your game can run above 250FPS before you splurge on a premium 240Hz panel.

 

that said, having G-sync compatible makes it good at any fps, just take note that you're not fully utilizing it.

yea the bestbuy in my area has a g7 monitor and i am druling over it all i might not utilize it all the time to full capacity but when im able to it will be sweet. i only game like a hour a day if that but i build a new pc every 5-7 years and get the best i can. 

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

yea the bestbuy in my area has a g7 monitor and i am druling over it all i might not utilize it all the time to full capacity but when im able to it will be sweet. i only game like a hour a day if that but i build a new pc every 5-7 years and get the best i can. 

what games do you play usually? if you want immersion might i suggest the G9?

though there are issues with it, so i wouldnt recommend it full heartedly

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

what games do you play usually? if you want immersion might i suggest the G9?

though there are issues with it, so i wouldnt recommend it full heartedly

i play cs:go, cod, battlefield, wow, gta san andreas i know there are more but my current pc cant load steam (long story had to buy a labtop because my apartment flooded and i lost everything)

i thought about the g9 but i mainly watch movies on my computer and tv shows and i dont like the black sides that the ultrawide gives. i thought about going dual monitor, one for games and movies, and still have the other for facebook and feeds to be open while watching movies or playing games but we will see im in a small bachelor apartment so... 

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

i thought about going dual monitor, one for games and movies, and still have the other for facebook and feeds to be open while watching movies or playing games but we will see im in a small bachelor apartment so... 

once you go dual, you never go back

i bought a 2nd monitor for my main desktop, few months later i bought a second monitor for my 2ndary setup because i cant live without it anymore  

 

5 minutes ago, truckerlenny1990 said:

i play cs:go, cod, battlefield, wow, gta san andreas

out of all these, i think only CS and WoW would go beyond 250fps consistently, and im not too sure on WoW

but yea you should be good, 10700k, 3080, and G7 is a good pairing