Is X570 worth it for me?

[LeeCope3]

I recently got a FREE 3600X, it dropped into my X370 board with no issues at all,

I have a RX5700XT and a M.2 970 Evo.
Would there be any real benefits to going with a X570 board right now?

I know i wont have any upgrade paths with regards to CPU etc, 

but am i leaving any noticable performance on the table?

R15 score is 1620 give or take a few each run,

not overclocked at all.

My ram is slower than id like but as i bought it when Ryzen 1000 first launched i have 2666

and my FCLK is 1300 right now.

 

 

[Moonzy]

Probably not

You won't gain any CPU performance from motherboard upgrade

But you'll get pcie4.0 and faster m.2 slots, but doesn't really matter, unless it matters to you

[MartinKweh]

If you plan to get those fancy pcie gen 4 ssd, yes. Otherwise, not really. Overclocking is better though. Id suggest just get a better ram than buying that motheroboard.

[LeeCope3]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

Probably not

You won't gain any CPU performance from motherboard upgrade

But you'll get pcie4.0 and faster m.2 slots, but doesn't really matter, unless it matters to you

I do not have any PCI-e 4.0 drives right now, so i guess its not something im bothered about.

[-rascal-]

2 minutes ago, LeeCope3 said:

I recently got a FREE 3600X, it dropped into my X370 board with no issues at all,

I have a RX5700XT and a M.2 970 Evo.
Would there be any real benefits to going with a X570 board right now?

I know i wont have any upgrade paths with regards to CPU etc, 

but am i leaving any noticable performance on the table?

R15 score is 1620 give or take a few each run,

not overclocked at all.

My ram is slower than id like but as i bought it when Ryzen 1000 first launched i have 2666

and my FCLK is 1300 right now.

 

 

 

Which X370 board do you have?

If you were to go with a 500-series motherboard, given the rest of the HW that you have, I'd get a B550 board.

Both X570 and B550 have PCI-E 4.0 support through the CPU ( = PCI-E X16 slots for graphics cards + 1x NVMe SSDs)

 

Only difference is the B550 chipset PCI-E lanes are PCI-E 3.0, while the X570 is PCI-E 4.0.

If you have multiple NVMe SSDs / devices, and you need PCI-E 4.0 for them, then X570.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3#:~:text=X570 uses a Gen4 chipset,be reconfigured into almost anything.

[LeeCope3]

2 minutes ago, MartinKweh said:

If you plan to get those fancy pcie gen 4 ssd, yes. Otherwise, not really. Overclocking is better though. Id suggest just get a better ram than buying that motheroboard.

thats what i was thinking, im just unsure which ram to go with right now, as 3200mhz ram wouldnt work on this board with my 1600x before, and id like 3600mhz if i can find some that will work, i know the 3600's IMC is better so it could work..

[LeeCope3]

2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Which X370 board do you have?

 

 

I have the Asus Prime X370 PRO.
 

If i was to buy more M.2 i would go with pci-e gen 4 even if i was putting them in a gen 3 board for now,

[MartinKweh]

Im still using a b350m on my 3600 and it still. Works fine with a 3200mhz ram. It might have been the 1600 

[LeeCope3]

Just now, MartinKweh said:

Im still using a b350m on my 3600 and it still. Works fine with a 3200mhz ram. It might have been the 1600 

i got the same ram working fine on my brothers system, which is was intended for in the first place, i just thought id see what it did on mine. that was a 3600x on a tuf x570

[Haro]

27 minutes ago, LeeCope3 said:

but am i leaving any noticable performance on the table

For the most part no, x16 gen 3 is still more than enough bandwidth and as for m.2's, well for a casual user it doesn't matter and unless you're saturating gen 3 bandwidth, gen 4 won't make a difference. 

 

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

some support 3600mhz+

And x370 boards don't?

[Moonzy]

9 minutes ago, LeeCope3 said:

as 3200mhz ram wouldnt work on this board with my 1600x before, and id like 3600mhz if i can find some that will work, i know the 3600's IMC is better so it could work..

you might see a noticeable bump in performance when you upgrade your RAM, but whether the bump is worth buying a new kit of RAM is questionable.

 

personally wouldnt bother, higher speed kit is something to consider when purchasing RAM, not as an afterthought upgrade imo

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

you might see a noticeable bump in performance when you upgrade your RAM, but whether the bump is worth buying a new kit of RAM is questionable.

 

personally wouldnt bother, higher speed kit is something to consider when purchasing RAM, not as an afterthought upgrade imo

Yeah going from 3200 to 3600 isn't a big performance bump anyway. Plus if you have halfway decent 3200MhZ ram, chances are you can push it to 3600 or 3866 with an hour's overclocking

[VeganJoy]

a decent b450 would also be a worthy option, some support 3600mhz+. you can sell your current sticks of ram for 50-55 bucks and pick up a set of those ballistix that everyone loves for ~70. should be an upgrade worth 15 bucks even from 3200c16 with a decent oc on those

 

15 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

And x370 boards don't?

the prime x370 pro i think only supports 3200mhz. if it can go higher it's not officially supported

[Moonzy]

7 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Yeah going from 3200 to 3600 isn't a big performance bump anyway. Plus if you have halfway decent 3200MhZ ram, chances are you can push it to 3600 or 3866 with an hour's overclocking

3200 to 3600 will see close to no bump for games if the CL is 16 and 18, the bump is very slight if same CL

definitely not worth buying a new kit just for those little bumps

 

but the bump from 2666 (assuming bad CL) to 3200 CL16 will see quite a big jump, but idk if it's worth buying a new RAM kit though

or just using the budget and buying higher tier GPU, which would definitely help in most games (that are not CPU limited anyways)

[Haro]

8 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

think only supports 3200mhz. if it can go higher it's not officially supported

The site does say that the topology handles 3200 when 4 dimms are occupied. 

Though we don't know how old that rating is and/or how it fairs with 2 dimms. 

[VeganJoy]

11 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

or just using the budget and buying higher tier GPU

op is already on a 5700xt and rdna 2 isnt here for another month or two. 20-30 bucks wouldnt get you to the next step up in cards anyways

 

 

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

20-30 bucks wouldnt get you to the next step up in cards anyways

that's assuming he sell the kits

 

but yea i wouldnt bother with a RAM swap to higher speeds, unless i need a capacity upgrade anyways

then i'll sell old kit and buy newer faster ones with capacity i need

[VeganJoy]

3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

that's assuming he sell the kits

 

but yea i wouldnt bother with a RAM swap to higher speeds, unless i need a capacity upgrade anyways

then i'll sell old kit and buy newer faster ones with capacity i need

fair enough, op will need to decide if it matters much for his use case. its the only thing left in the system that could use an upgrade in certain cpu/ram limited scenarios.

 

if youre doing any kind of compute workload the boost to your fclk will help a lot. if youre just gaming it may give you slightly better/consistent framerates at 1080p but any higher resolution would likely be unaffected.

[LeeCope3]

if i got better ram the 2666 stuff will go in my daughters machine when i upgrade that, shes still on a 2500K lol, its just finding something that will work on this x370 with this 3600X,

when i spoke to corsair they told me the cpu is more important than the board as the memory controller is on the chip, so it would be some trial and error i guess to find something that works.