10900k works with AMD ram?

[LOD_ismynightmare]

So my ram came yesterday and I was shocked to see AMD logo and the whole AMD optimization thing on the package as the retailer didn't really show that on the website clearly. They are pretty fast, they are the TridantZ neo 2x8GB 3800mhz and has a reading of 14-16-16-36 @ 1.50v. Now I plan to return them because this time I really want to build a system free of any problem. I previously had micro stutters in my intel 9th gen computer that I sold. I suspect to get them back, but I am reducing these chances and I am ruling out this ram because I think it is better be returned. Actually, I am not really liking the voltage on this one as it seems to me a bit high. The previous auto oc settings on my previous build had I think 1.40v max xmp1 or 2, don't quite remember but it was on auto. 

 

So my question is am I really doing the right decision? These are the fastest sticks I've seen. And, I can't test them at the moment, as I don't have all parts to complete my build and I don't plan to open them

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

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[Zando_]

Yeah, RAM is RAM. The AMD optimized stuff is just marketing bull, usually denoting a high speed, low timings kit (since AMD CPUs really like those, and actually need them to perform at their best). It isn't functionally different from any other DDR4. 

[LOD_ismynightmare]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, RAM is RAM. The AMD optimized stuff is just marketing bull, usually denoting a high speed, low timings kit (since AMD CPUs really like those, and actually need them to perform at their best). It isn't functionally different from any other DDR4. 

ok but it seems that if I oc this ram by using the auto settings, it'll use 1.50. Even if i do it manually, it is what has been suggested to use, ocing at 1.50 to get the timings I showed. Am I right?

[LOD_ismynightmare]

Just now, LOD_ismynightmare said:

ok but it seems that if I oc this ram by using the auto settings, it'll use 1.50. Even if i do it manually, it is what has been suggested to use, ocing at 1.50 to get the timings I showed. Am I right?

I mean 1.50v

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, LOD_ismynightmare said:

ok but it seems that if I oc this ram by using the auto settings, it'll use 1.50. Even if i do it manually, it is what has been suggested to use, ocing at 1.50 to get the timings I showed. Am I right?

If you just enable the XMP profile, it'll automatically set all the correct timings, frequency and voltage.

[LOD_ismynightmare]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

If you just enable the XMP profile, it'll automatically set all the correct timings, frequency and voltage.

yes which is the 1.50v as it says on the box. I actually didn't consider this when I bought it, but now I am thinking about a lot and that is why I wanna return it. 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said:

ok but it seems that if I oc this ram by using the auto settings, it'll use 1.50. Even if i do it manually, it is what has been suggested to use, ocing at 1.50 to get the timings I showed. Am I right?

Yep. If 1.5v is the XMP voltage, that's what the kit is rated to run safely. I think you can actually push higher on some kits, but it depends on the CPU you have + the specific die your kit sports. 

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said:

yes which is the 1.50v as it says on the box. I actually didn't consider this when I bought it, but now I am thinking about a lot and that is why I wanna return it. 

1.5V is perfectly fine and safe for 24/7 usage on DDR4.

[LOD_ismynightmare]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yep. If 1.5v is the XMP voltage, that's what the kit is rated to run safely. I think you can actually push higher on some kits, but it depends on the CPU you have + the specific die your kit sports. 

Intel doesn't provide these info on their, they only show the supported frequency. Thanks. I think I will return them because I am not gonna OC at 1.50v

[LOD_ismynightmare]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

1.5V is perfectly fine and safe for 24/7 usage on DDR4.

Yeah I read that 1.5v is the highest safe voltage, but I don't really think that I will OC my system immediately. It is a new build and I wanna see its stock potential then plan to OC, but lower than 1.5v probably 

[Mateyyy]

Just now, LOD_ismynightmare said:

Yeah I read that 1.5v is the highest safe voltage, but I don't really think that I will OC my system immediately. It is a new build and I wanna see its stock potential then plan to OC, but lower than 1.5v probably 

Not much point in running a memory kit at 2133MHz when it's rated for 3800MHz 14-16-16-36 imo.

I mean, if you're for some reason not comfortable with 1.5V on the DRAM you could just lower it, and the frequency with it (and/or loosen the timings), though I really don't think it's worth the hassle.

[Haro]

6 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said:

1.50v

Doesn't necessarily have to run at that. 

It's just what it's set to that doesn't mean it won't work with lower voltage. Check how low you can get it to in terms of voltage. 

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

The kit you bought is good quality. If you aren't comfortable with 1.5V, then the kit would probably run just fine @1.4-1.45V with timings like 15-16-16-36 or 16-16-16-36.

 

Any RAM that has an XMP profile is technically overclocked. You spent a lot of money on your RAM for someone who wants to run it at the JEDEC standard.

[SabianSVK]

It is technically "OC", but those RAMs have been tested and validated by manufacturer to run at such settings. That´s why it is promoted and saved in X.M.P. profile ... And there is always some headroom as well. You might be able to run said settings on lower voltage, or slightly lower frequency on medium lower voltage = that´s to be tested by you. But you really don´t have to worry about promoted settings ... Keep them, and try them out once the system arrives. 1.5V is completely normal for such high-performance RAM. There is always a chance that combination of "specific CPU + specific chipset + specific BIOS version" will not play nicely with specific RAMs, however that small chance is always there and has nothing to do with that "AMD optimized" sticker on the package ...
If you want to go lower, go for lower .. but there is no reason to do so, other than your preference

[-rascal-]

i9-10900K is *officially* rated up to DDR4-2933.

Anything beyond that is considered overclocking of the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller (IMC).

 

You can always "dial down" the RAM overclock...and run it at like DDR4-2666 / 2933 / 3000 / 3200 with reduced timings and voltage.

But again, even DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 is considered "overclocking".

[Haro]

Just now, -rascal- said:

Anything beyond that is considered overclocking of the CPU's Integrated Memory Controller (IMC).

Not that it won't happen. The imc is really good and will easily handle it.. but technically it is. Nothing to worry about though.