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I have a recently finished a build with a Ryzen 5 3600 w/ stock cooler and I have 4 fans and I think it’s good airflow but my cpu doesn’t say. When playing csgo it’s around 60-70 degrees and when playing GTA 5 it runs around 70-80. Also my fans are facing the right way. The left fan is pushing air, same as the side fan, top fans blowing out air. Does anybody know? (Edit: CSGO reaches up 79 degrees max and GTA 5 reaches up to 83)

 

 

 

EDIT : Ok guys I now have my hyper 212 and installed it, temps are amazing and over 20 degrees cooler, also one of you said to flip my back fan which I did but I had to lower my side fan so I was wondering if this airflow is ok and if there’s anything I can improve on 

 

 

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Use Ryzen Master to track thermals. Other applications are broken.

 

Also, make sure the BIOS is updated, the chipset driver is the latest one and that the stock cooler mount is good. Lastly, set the CPU fan speed to performance, not silence

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Those temps are completely fine, especially for a stock cooler. Downloading games is more demanding on the CPU than you would think, and reaching 80C is completely fine. The only time you should be concerned about temps is if your CPU is reaching the 90C-95C range, or if things are slowing down because of heat. 

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Did you use real thermal paste or the crap already on the cooler?

 

What fan profile is set in BIOS?

 

Stock or OC?

 

Have you updated to the lates BIOS?

 

Please be aware that the wraith stealth cooler is a minimum required cooler for that chip, personally, I think it should have included the spire, but thats just me. 

 

Also, 70-80 isn't terrible, could be better but that's the game you play when you use the stock cooler.

 

Finally, cheap what voltage your board is giving the CPU, if it is an older BIOS version it could be giving it more than it needs and thus leading to higher temps. 

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9 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

Those temps are completely fine, especially for a stock cooler. Downloading games is more demanding on the CPU than you would think, and reaching 80C is completely fine. The only time you should be concerned about temps is if your CPU is reaching the 90C-95C range, or if things are slowing down because of heat. 

My ryzen 3800x reaches 95 degrees in 10 minutes when i do the "prime 95 small fft" test ( maybe higher if i dont stop it at 95 degrees) .  but it never over heats while i play the games i play. Although my computer would never be under those type of loads ( i dont think) should i be worried that my CPU gets that hot in 10 minutes?  Untitled.thumb.png.a1745b99e5ad3d673db6902e0cd1b6e6.png

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5 minutes ago, mahrama said:

My ryzen 3800x reaches 95 degrees in 10 minutes when i do the "prime 95 small fft" test ( maybe higher if i dont stop it at 95 degrees) .  but it never over heats while i play the games i play. Although my computer would never be under those type of loads ( i dont think) should i be worried that my CPU gets that hot in 10 minutes?  Untitled.thumb.png.a1745b99e5ad3d673db6902e0cd1b6e6.png

I'm not super familiar with the benchmark you're talking about, but 95C under any workload is far from ideal. What kind of cooling solution do you have set up?

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38 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Use Ryzen Master to track thermals. Other applications are broken.

 

Also, make sure the BIOS is updated, the chipset driver is the latest one and that the stock cooler mount is good. Lastly, set the CPU fan speed to performance, not silence

I’ll keep that to note because I do notice Ryzen masters temps are about 15-20 degrees lower 

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36 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Did you use real thermal paste or the crap already on the cooler?

 

What fan profile is set in BIOS?

 

Stock or OC?

 

Have you updated to the lates BIOS?

 

Please be aware that the wraith stealth cooler is a minimum required cooler for that chip, personally, I think it should have included the spire, but thats just me. 

 

Also, 70-80 isn't terrible, could be better but that's the game you play when you use the stock cooler.

 

Finally, cheap what voltage your board is giving the CPU, if it is an older BIOS version it could be giving it more than it needs and thus leading to higher temps. 

I set the fan to full speed since I don’t care about noise my case fans are already pretty loud. I applied Corsairs TM30 thermal paste, it is stock I haven’t touched any of the cpus settings ever since I set up the pc, I am not sure if I have updated to the latest bios , I am running the b450 tomahawk max, I’m not running the latest bios I will try updating it and see if that helps and finnaly the core voltage runs around 1.378-1.41 when in bios. 

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48 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Use Ryzen Master to track thermals. Other applications are broken.

 

Also, make sure the BIOS is updated, the chipset driver is the latest one and that the stock cooler mount is good. Lastly, set the CPU fan speed to performance, not silence

It’s on full speed and I updated to the latest chipset but I’m going to try updating the bios and see if that helps 

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1 minute ago, Cellular63 said:

I set the fan to full speed since I don’t care about noise my case fans are already pretty loud. I applied Corsairs TM30 thermal paste, it is stock I haven’t touched any of the cpus settings ever since I set up the pc, I am not sure if I have updated to the latest bios , I am running the b450 tomahawk max, I’m not running the latest bios I will try updating it and see if that helps and finnaly the core voltage runs around 1.378-1.41 when in bios. 

You can drop your CPU voltage down to about 1.3v, you may see a little performance loss when hitting it with all cores at 100% load but will keep temps in check.

 

My best advice for you here though is to just buy a cooler if the temps are bothering you that much. A CoolerMaster 212 Evo is cheap enough for most people and gets the job done. You can go with a better cooler if you like mind you. It all depends on if/how much you can afford to spend. 

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2 hours ago, Cellular63 said:

I’ll keep that to note because I do notice Ryzen masters temps are about 15-20 degrees lower 

That's because it reports real temps. Other applications have issues. Only Ryzen Master and applications that report the same values are legitimate. Other readings are broken

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2 hours ago, mahrama said:

My ryzen 3800x reaches 95 degrees in 10 minutes when i do the "prime 95 small fft" test ( maybe higher if i dont stop it at 95 degrees) .  but it never over heats while i play the games i play. Although my computer would never be under those type of loads ( i dont think) should i be worried that my CPU gets that hot in 10 minutes?  Untitled.thumb.png.a1745b99e5ad3d673db6902e0cd1b6e6.png

Something is very wrong with your cooler mount. 95 is never normal at stock

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14 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Something is very wrong with your cooler mount. 95 is never normal at stock

It's not unexpected for prime95 small fft, now that AMD bothered to put a decent FPU in Zen 2 compared to previous Ryzen. The stock cooler is barely adequate for regular loads. This is a pretty stressful one.

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24 minutes ago, porina said:

It's not unexpected for prime95 small fft, now that AMD bothered to put a decent FPU in Zen 2 compared to previous Ryzen. The stock cooler is barely adequate for regular loads. This is a pretty stressful one.

Outs only gets to about 85 though. He most likely has an anomaly somewhere

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85 @ stock is pretty hot. I wouldn't be as ok with that as you guys are.

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The stock cooler for the 3600 isnt great, and stock settings run voltages way too high, in my opinion.

 

Try an OC first. I've found 4.2ghx all core at 1.22V to be stable on both of my 3600s for long term stress tests. You should be able to easily go to 4.2ghz all core at 1.3V. You'll run cooler and faster.  You'll be surprised how far temps drop.

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For stock cooler and PBO enabled, 80C while gaming is normal. It seems to be target temp from what I've seen.

 

I have to ask about how fan config is. Looks like rear fan is set as intake. I would flip that, and use side fan as intake instead.

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I ended up ordering a Hyper 212 BE so after reading all your comments, thank you.

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On 5/30/2020 at 1:02 AM, mahrama said:

My ryzen 3800x reaches 95 degrees in 10 minutes when i do the "prime 95 small fft" test ( maybe higher if i dont stop it at 95 degrees) .  but it never over heats while i play the games i play. Although my computer would never be under those type of loads ( i dont think) should i be worried that my CPU gets that hot in 10 minutes?  

P95 is pretty heavy. If what you're doing regularly isn't that intensive, the stock cooler is fine. 

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