Super Mario 64 ported to PC

[Video Beagle]

Can/does this have implication for other games? Like, could these methods be used by Nintendo to port games to PC?

[Drakkon_Sol]

IF, Hypothetically, one were to have acquired a copy of this "Program", how would one map a PS4 controller to it? Hypothetically speaking, of course, since Presumably the config file doesn't even allow one to set fullscreen to TRUE. 

[Drakkon_Sol]

oops. doublepost.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Drakkon_Sol
doublepost, not sure how to delete.

[LinuxTerm]

5 minutes ago, Drakkon_Sol said:

IF, Hypothetically, one were to have acquired a copy of this "Program", how would one map a PS4 controller to it? Hypothetically speaking, of course, since Presumably the config file doesn't even allow one to set fullscreen to TRUE. 

It should be automatically detected

[linkboy]

13 hours ago, Video Beagle said:

Can/does this have implication for other games? Like, could these methods be used by Nintendo to port games to PC?

Nintendo themselves could port their games to whatever platforms they want. There's never been anything preventing them (outside of them not wanting to). They have the source code and everything to fully release the games.

 

As for other games, there's a similar project using Metroid Prime called URDE and another team is working on Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, but those are super early.

[Bitter]

Say in theory I know someone who's stuck home sick and would like to play this. Where would, in theory, someone acquire this?

[Letgomyleghoe]

On 5/4/2020 at 10:17 AM, Tristerin said:

I need this to let my kids mess around in a 3D world with joysticks.

Oh god, I’ve wasted to many hours as a child doing this on old gen consoles.

[JZStudios]

On 5/4/2020 at 10:44 AM, handymanshandle said:

Can't wait for Nintendo to over-react to this

You'd think if there's such a demand for Mario 64 that Nintendo feels threatened by free tech demos... they'd just release a port or remake the game.

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, JZStudios said:

You'd think if there's such a demand for Mario 64 that Nintendo feels threatened by free tech demos... they'd just release a port or remake the game.

Nintendo makes questionable decisions, to say the least. Like not re-releasing GameCube games for emulation on the Switch officially.

[Nowak]

16 hours ago, Video Beagle said:

Can/does this have implication for other games? Like, could these methods be used by Nintendo to port games to PC?

I saw a screenshot of Metroid Prime running on a 2070 the other day. Not sure when that'll be released nor do I have the screenshot on me but that's a thing.

 

It was also running at 44FPS instead of the rock solid 60FPS the Gamecube runs it at lmao

[Falkentyne]

50 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Say in theory I know someone who's stuck home sick and would like to play this. Where would, in theory, someone acquire this?

In theory, there are ways.  In some possible reality, I found it, tested it, and it works well.  If I can find it, you can possibly do it too.  And it's still available, based on Ambassador Spock's best guess.  I am sorry but I am not permitted to tell you anything else.

[LinuxTerm]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

Say in theory I know someone who's stuck home sick and would like to play this. Where would, in theory, someone acquire this?

The only way is getting the source code directly from the people who ported it like on their discord server or through 4chan leeks but the 4chan leeks mainly mario.exe are a very outdated version and really should not be played

[Video Beagle]

On 5/5/2020 at 5:12 PM, linkboy said:

Nintendo themselves could port their games to whatever platforms they want. There's never been anything preventing them (outside of them not wanting to). They have the source code and everything to fully release the games.

Wouldn't there need to be some kind of system..emulation or whatever..to make it work on pc though?

[AlexGoesHigh]

1 hour ago, Video Beagle said:

Wouldn't there need to be some kind of system..emulation or whatever..to make it work on pc though?

You don't need emulation when you have the source code, is just a matter of tweaking the code in order to support the compiler and libraries, now what they need to change depends a lot on the code itself, it could a matter of changing a couple lines or even the majority of the project.

[Craftyawesome]

7 hours ago, AlexGoesHigh said:

You don't need emulation when you have the source code, is just a matter of tweaking the code in order to support the compiler and libraries, now what they need to change depends a lot on the code itself, it could a matter of changing a couple lines or even the majority of the project.

You would also need to convert code that runs on n64 specific hardware like the rsp and rdp.

[Dredgy]

On 5/6/2020 at 11:36 AM, JZStudios said:

You'd think if there's such a demand for Mario 64 that Nintendo feels threatened by free tech demos... they'd just release a port or remake the game.

They should, they won’t. The games I’ve enjoyed most recently were the reboots of Crash and Spyro. 

 

I’m playing this at the moment and I never played the original (just the DS remake) and it would be an instant buy if it was released officially with updated graphics. I’d also stop playing the unofficial one and await the offical one. Just such a lack of great 3D paltformers on PC.

[JZStudios]

18 minutes ago, Dredgy said:

They should, they won’t. The games I’ve enjoyed most recently were the reboots of Crash and Spyro. 

 

I’m playing this at the moment and I never played the original (just the DS remake) and it would be an instant buy if it was released officially with updated graphics. I’d also stop playing the unofficial one and await the offical one. Just such a lack of great 3D paltformers on PC.

I recently played Yooka Laylee and the Impossible Lair. It's more Donkey Kong Country style, but it was enjoyable.

[LinuxTerm]

19 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

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I edited the post to include the sources and citations

[Roswell]

On 5/4/2020 at 2:02 PM, Austinham said:

umm, How is there a speed boost from not emulating the N64 if Pentium 3 system can emulate just about any if not all n64 games at 60FPS. A modern system would be 1000FPS+  The rest of what you stated can be done in a emu. The only real benefit here is adding stuff to the game or modding it.

N64 is notoriously difficult to emulate properly. Even stuff like the Pi 4 can't run everything without dropping frames. Sure, very janky emulators ran on PIII systems that only supported a handful of games, but that's not a great experience.

 

Additionally, nobody is running "just about any" N64 game at 60 or 1000 FPS. Almost all games on the platform run somewhere around 15-30 FPS. If you force higher frame rates, you break the game.

[Nayr438]

And it has begun http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/05/nintendo_cracks_down_on_the_super_mario_64_pc_port

It was only a matter of time.

People are always making re-makes, shaders, mods, etc... for this game. Nintendo always flips out and cracks down on it.

[LinuxTerm]

3 minutes ago, Nayr438 said:

And it has begun http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/05/nintendo_cracks_down_on_the_super_mario_64_pc_port

It was only a matter of time.

People are always making re-makes, shaders, mods, etc... for this game. Nintendo always flips out and cracks down on it.

 

The project itself is 100% legal because it just contains a clean room rewrite of the mips disassembly code and gets the assets by "extracting" them from the rom but what nintendo is trying to remove are distributions of the precompiled pc port which are not legal 

[merco]

On 5/6/2020 at 3:36 AM, JZStudios said:

You'd think if there's such a demand for Mario 64 that Nintendo feels threatened by free tech demos... they'd just release a port or remake the game.

 

19 hours ago, Dredgy said:

They should, they won’t

 

Technically you can buy Mario 64 from them right now and play it on virtual console on the wii/wii u, or you can play the remake SM64 DS. I also heard there will be a remake of the game for their 35th anniversary for the switch, apparently also SM Sunshine and Galaxy. Not sure where you are getting "they won't" from because they will and already have. Nintendo is not without fault for sure, and even though it's kind of a cash grab when they milk these old games, I will probably just buy them anyways, because at the end of the day I want to just turn on my switch and play these games with new graphics.

[loganjramos]

Why does nintendo always have to be like this?

[JZStudios]

2 hours ago, merco said:

Technically you can buy Mario 64 from them right now and play it on virtual console on the wii/wii u, or you can play the remake SM64 DS.

I thought the Wii shop was completely shut down? I've also never had a DS, and playing a game on a portable isn't my version of ideal, they could even just port the DS version, instead they're too busy DMCA'ing every single fan remake in UE4 that wasn't ever going to be released.

[merco]

3 minutes ago, JZStudios said:

I thought the Wii shop was completely shut down? I've also never had a DS, and playing a game on a portable isn't my version of ideal, they could even just port the DS version, instead they're too busy DMCA'ing every single fan remake in UE4 that wasn't ever going to be released.

I'm not sure tbh, I just saw it up on nintendo.de for 10€. Definitely not gonna defend nintendo's legal practices either, but I'm looking forward to the switch remake at least.