Posted April 14, 2020 What pc do you think its the best? I want to buy a new pc but I don't know which one to choose. Pls help me asap! Thanks!! https://www.chip7.pt/desktops/75207-doit-super-v3-doitsuperv.html#/8-so-sem_sistema_operativo/10-perifericos-sem_perifericos/138-placa_de_rede_wireless-asus_usb_ac51 https://www.chip7.pt/desktops/66848-chip7-predador-r5-3600-chip7predad.html#/8-so-sem_sistema_operativo/10-perifericos-sem_perifericos/53-discos-sem_hdd/127-grafica-gtx_1660_super_6gb/136-placa_de_rede_wireless-asus_pce_ac55bt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 They look like they are spec'd the same/similarly. The site is hard to read tbh. COMMUNITY STANDARDS | TECH NEWS POSTING GUIDELINES | FORUM STAFF LTT Folding Users Tips, Tricks and FAQ | F@H & BOINC Badge Request | F@H Contribution | My Rig | Project Steamroller I am a Moderator, but I am fallible. Discuss or debate with me as you will but please do not argue with me as that will get us nowhere. Spoiler † † † Character is like a Tree and Reputation like its Shadow. The Shadow is what we think of it; The Tree is the Real thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln Reputation is a Lifetime to create but seconds to destroy. You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. ~ Winston Churchill Docendo discimus - "to teach is to learn" † CHRISTIAN MEMBER † Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said: What pc do you think its the best? I want to buy a new pc but I don't know which one to choose. Pls help me asap! Thanks!! Is building a PC on your own not an option? AMD Motherboard Tier List ‖ GPU Cooling Tier List ‖ PSU Tier List ‖ A Dive Into Custom Keyboards & Mechanical Switches NEWCOMERS Remember to ' Reply ' to comments in order for people to see them, this is done by clicking the arrow icon at the bottom of a comment (Quote). My Builds: MEGA Desk Build Blueberry Pi ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus X470 ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi ATX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition 11GB ‖ EVGA P2 850W w/ Blue Sleeved Cables ‖ Cryorig R1 Universal (Blue) ‖ 2x Corsair Force MP510 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Corsair ML Pro Blue LED Fans ‖ Fractal Design Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower ‖ Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q 100Hz IPS G-Sync UW ‖ Dell UltraSharp U3419W 60Hz IPS UW ‖ Custom TOFU96 ‖ Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB Work Rig ‖ ThreadRipper 3970X ‖ Asus Prime TRX40 Pro ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 8x32GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 24GB ‖ Corsair HXi 1000W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 8x Sabrent Rocket 2TB w/ 2x Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Phanteks P400A ATX Mid Tower Plotting Machine 1 ‖ ThreadRipper 2990WX ‖ AsRock X399 Taichi ATX ‖ Kingston HyperX Fury 8x16GB 2666Mhz CL18 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RMx 850W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 2x Sabrent Rocket 2TB & 2x Sabrent Rocket 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Rosewill RSV-L4500 4U ‖ 5x Dell DS60 60-bay JBOD w/ 1.2PB of HDD Storage ‖ HP 22U Half Rack Plotting Machine 2 ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus TUF X570-Plus Wi-Fi ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 4x16GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RM 650W ‖ Noctua NH-D15s Chormax ‖ 4x Corsair MP600 Force 1TB W/ Asus Hyper m.2 Gen4 ‖ Arctic P14 & P12 Fans ‖ Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower J.A.R.V.I.S. ‖ R9 3900XT ‖ Asus B550-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX 8GB ‖ Corsair SF 750W Platinum ‖ Corsair H100i Pro AIO ‖ Noctua NF-A12x15 Chromax Fans ‖ FormD T1 SFF ITX Case ‖ LG 75UM8070PUA 4K UHD 120Hz IPS HDR TV ‖ Corsair K63 Cherry MX Red Special Edition Wireless ‖ Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Archive Server ‖ R3 2200G ‖ Asus B450-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 White ‖ Vega Integrated Graphics ‖ EVGA P2 750W ‖ Prism Wraith Cooler ‖ ITX Open Bench ‖ 2x HP SAS Expander ‖ LSI-SAS9211 ‖ 220TB of HDD Storage SFF ITX Home PC ‖ i5-7500 ‖ MSI B250I Gaming Pro Wi-Fi AC ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB 2800MHz ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ Seasonic SSP Flex ATX 300W PSU ‖ Cryorig C7 ‖ Velka 3 rev 1.2 SFF ITX Case (Grey) Laptop ‖ Dell XPS13 2-in-1 7390 (2020) ‖ i7-1065G7 ‖ 32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4x ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ 1TB NVME M.2 ‖ UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Display Keyboard Collection ‖ GMMK Full Size ‖ TOFU96 90% ‖ KBD8x MKII TKL ‖ Drop CTRL High Profile TKL ‖ KBD Bella 75% ‖ GMMK Pro 75% ‖ XD84 Pro 75% ‖ KBD67 V2 MKII 65% ‖ KBD67Lite 65% ‖ TOFU65 65% ‖ KBD Blade 60% ‖ Drop Carina 60% ‖ Southpaw75 60% w/ Left Numpad ‖ OLKB Preonic V3 Ortholinear ‖ CosPad XD24 ‖ KBDPad MKII Key Cap Collection ‖ GMK Boba Fett ‖ GMK Red Samurai ‖ GMK Laser CyberDeck +Novalties ‖ GMK Arch ‖ MaxKey B&W ‖ Drop MT3 Camillo ‖ Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty ‖ KBDfans Biip Torii Ext-2048 ‖ ePBT Less But Better +Novalties ‖ EnjoyPBT Dolch ‖ WinMix Mustard ‖ Drop Skylight Horizon & Slate ‖ Glorious Black Aura ‖ Mechanical Key Switch Collection ‖ Zealios V2 65g ‖ Zealios V2 78g ‖ Zilents V2 67g ‖ Tealios V2 67g ‖ C³ Kiwi ‖ C³ Tangerine ‖ Invyr Holy Panda ‖ Durock T1 67g ‖ Kailh Box Thick Jades ‖ Kailh Box Royal ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Dark Yellow ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange ‖ Kailh Box White ‖ Kailh Box Red ‖ Kailh Pro Purple ‖ Kailh Pro Burgandy ‖ Gateron Ink Black V2 ‖ Gateron Black ‖ Gateron Yellow ‖ Gateron Brown ‖ Gateron Green ‖ Gateron Blue ‖ Cherry MX Black ‖ Cherry MX Brown ‖ Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249? Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em. Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)? System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese Spoiler CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese Spoiler CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture) OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not. 正直に生きる、一度きりの人生だから Keeb Weeb Links: Custom Mechanical Keyboards | #KeebWeebClub 'Chew Builds: Hoshī (PC) | Okashī (PC) | K-4398 (Keeb) | Eighty #391 (Keeb) | R2-968 (Keeb) | MGK64 (Keeb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Eschew said: I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249? No its €785 and €849 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 12 hours ago, Eschew said: Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249? Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em. Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)? System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture) OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not. They're supposed to be periods. 785€ = 857$ and 849€ = 923$. And can you recommend me another one, pls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 9 hours ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said: Is building a PC on your own not an option? Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 12 hours ago, SansVarnic said: They look like they are spec'd the same/similarly. The site is hard to read tbh. The only differences are that the RAM frequency on the first one is 3000MHz and the power supply is a Kolink 850W. And on the second one the RAM frequency is 2666MHz and the power supply is a Kratos 500W 80+ modular gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 7 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said: Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. What is your budget and location? AMD Motherboard Tier List ‖ GPU Cooling Tier List ‖ PSU Tier List ‖ A Dive Into Custom Keyboards & Mechanical Switches NEWCOMERS Remember to ' Reply ' to comments in order for people to see them, this is done by clicking the arrow icon at the bottom of a comment (Quote). My Builds: MEGA Desk Build Blueberry Pi ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus X470 ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi ATX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition 11GB ‖ EVGA P2 850W w/ Blue Sleeved Cables ‖ Cryorig R1 Universal (Blue) ‖ 2x Corsair Force MP510 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Corsair ML Pro Blue LED Fans ‖ Fractal Design Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower ‖ Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q 100Hz IPS G-Sync UW ‖ Dell UltraSharp U3419W 60Hz IPS UW ‖ Custom TOFU96 ‖ Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB Work Rig ‖ ThreadRipper 3970X ‖ Asus Prime TRX40 Pro ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 8x32GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 24GB ‖ Corsair HXi 1000W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 8x Sabrent Rocket 2TB w/ 2x Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Phanteks P400A ATX Mid Tower Plotting Machine 1 ‖ ThreadRipper 2990WX ‖ AsRock X399 Taichi ATX ‖ Kingston HyperX Fury 8x16GB 2666Mhz CL18 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RMx 850W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 2x Sabrent Rocket 2TB & 2x Sabrent Rocket 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Rosewill RSV-L4500 4U ‖ 5x Dell DS60 60-bay JBOD w/ 1.2PB of HDD Storage ‖ HP 22U Half Rack Plotting Machine 2 ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus TUF X570-Plus Wi-Fi ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 4x16GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RM 650W ‖ Noctua NH-D15s Chormax ‖ 4x Corsair MP600 Force 1TB W/ Asus Hyper m.2 Gen4 ‖ Arctic P14 & P12 Fans ‖ Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower J.A.R.V.I.S. ‖ R9 3900XT ‖ Asus B550-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX 8GB ‖ Corsair SF 750W Platinum ‖ Corsair H100i Pro AIO ‖ Noctua NF-A12x15 Chromax Fans ‖ FormD T1 SFF ITX Case ‖ LG 75UM8070PUA 4K UHD 120Hz IPS HDR TV ‖ Corsair K63 Cherry MX Red Special Edition Wireless ‖ Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Archive Server ‖ R3 2200G ‖ Asus B450-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 White ‖ Vega Integrated Graphics ‖ EVGA P2 750W ‖ Prism Wraith Cooler ‖ ITX Open Bench ‖ 2x HP SAS Expander ‖ LSI-SAS9211 ‖ 220TB of HDD Storage SFF ITX Home PC ‖ i5-7500 ‖ MSI B250I Gaming Pro Wi-Fi AC ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB 2800MHz ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ Seasonic SSP Flex ATX 300W PSU ‖ Cryorig C7 ‖ Velka 3 rev 1.2 SFF ITX Case (Grey) Laptop ‖ Dell XPS13 2-in-1 7390 (2020) ‖ i7-1065G7 ‖ 32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4x ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ 1TB NVME M.2 ‖ UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Display Keyboard Collection ‖ GMMK Full Size ‖ TOFU96 90% ‖ KBD8x MKII TKL ‖ Drop CTRL High Profile TKL ‖ KBD Bella 75% ‖ GMMK Pro 75% ‖ XD84 Pro 75% ‖ KBD67 V2 MKII 65% ‖ KBD67Lite 65% ‖ TOFU65 65% ‖ KBD Blade 60% ‖ Drop Carina 60% ‖ Southpaw75 60% w/ Left Numpad ‖ OLKB Preonic V3 Ortholinear ‖ CosPad XD24 ‖ KBDPad MKII Key Cap Collection ‖ GMK Boba Fett ‖ GMK Red Samurai ‖ GMK Laser CyberDeck +Novalties ‖ GMK Arch ‖ MaxKey B&W ‖ Drop MT3 Camillo ‖ Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty ‖ KBDfans Biip Torii Ext-2048 ‖ ePBT Less But Better +Novalties ‖ EnjoyPBT Dolch ‖ WinMix Mustard ‖ Drop Skylight Horizon & Slate ‖ Glorious Black Aura ‖ Mechanical Key Switch Collection ‖ Zealios V2 65g ‖ Zealios V2 78g ‖ Zilents V2 67g ‖ Tealios V2 67g ‖ C³ Kiwi ‖ C³ Tangerine ‖ Invyr Holy Panda ‖ Durock T1 67g ‖ Kailh Box Thick Jades ‖ Kailh Box Royal ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Dark Yellow ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange ‖ Kailh Box White ‖ Kailh Box Red ‖ Kailh Pro Purple ‖ Kailh Pro Burgandy ‖ Gateron Ink Black V2 ‖ Gateron Black ‖ Gateron Yellow ‖ Gateron Brown ‖ Gateron Green ‖ Gateron Blue ‖ Cherry MX Black ‖ Cherry MX Brown ‖ Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 1 hour ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said: What is your budget and location? 200€ - Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, FranciscoGuarda said: 200€ - Portugal Okay so not much, I would search locally for used PC's. AMD Motherboard Tier List ‖ GPU Cooling Tier List ‖ PSU Tier List ‖ A Dive Into Custom Keyboards & Mechanical Switches NEWCOMERS Remember to ' Reply ' to comments in order for people to see them, this is done by clicking the arrow icon at the bottom of a comment (Quote). My Builds: MEGA Desk Build Blueberry Pi ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus X470 ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi ATX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3200MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition 11GB ‖ EVGA P2 850W w/ Blue Sleeved Cables ‖ Cryorig R1 Universal (Blue) ‖ 2x Corsair Force MP510 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Corsair ML Pro Blue LED Fans ‖ Fractal Design Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower ‖ Asus ROG SWIFT PG348Q 100Hz IPS G-Sync UW ‖ Dell UltraSharp U3419W 60Hz IPS UW ‖ Custom TOFU96 ‖ Corsair Scimitar Pro RGB Work Rig ‖ ThreadRipper 3970X ‖ Asus Prime TRX40 Pro ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 8x32GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro RTX 6000 24GB ‖ Corsair HXi 1000W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 8x Sabrent Rocket 2TB w/ 2x Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Phanteks P400A ATX Mid Tower Plotting Machine 1 ‖ ThreadRipper 2990WX ‖ AsRock X399 Taichi ATX ‖ Kingston HyperX Fury 8x16GB 2666Mhz CL18 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RMx 850W ‖ EVGA CLC 360 AIO ‖ 2x Sabrent Rocket 2TB & 2x Sabrent Rocket 4TB w/ Asus Hyper m.2 V2 ‖ Arctic P12 Fans ‖ Rosewill RSV-L4500 4U ‖ 5x Dell DS60 60-bay JBOD w/ 1.2PB of HDD Storage ‖ HP 22U Half Rack Plotting Machine 2 ‖ R9 3950X ‖ Asus TUF X570-Plus Wi-Fi ATX ‖ G.Skill RipjawsV 4x16GB 3200Mhz CL16 ‖ Nvidia Quadro K600 1GB ‖ Corsair RM 650W ‖ Noctua NH-D15s Chormax ‖ 4x Corsair MP600 Force 1TB W/ Asus Hyper m.2 Gen4 ‖ Arctic P14 & P12 Fans ‖ Silverstone FARA R1 ATX Mid Tower J.A.R.V.I.S. ‖ R9 3900XT ‖ Asus B550-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 ‖ EVGA GTX 1080 SC2 iCX 8GB ‖ Corsair SF 750W Platinum ‖ Corsair H100i Pro AIO ‖ Noctua NF-A12x15 Chromax Fans ‖ FormD T1 SFF ITX Case ‖ LG 75UM8070PUA 4K UHD 120Hz IPS HDR TV ‖ Corsair K63 Cherry MX Red Special Edition Wireless ‖ Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Archive Server ‖ R3 2200G ‖ Asus B450-I ROG STRIX Wi-Fi ITX ‖ Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x8GB 3200MHz CL16 White ‖ Vega Integrated Graphics ‖ EVGA P2 750W ‖ Prism Wraith Cooler ‖ ITX Open Bench ‖ 2x HP SAS Expander ‖ LSI-SAS9211 ‖ 220TB of HDD Storage SFF ITX Home PC ‖ i5-7500 ‖ MSI B250I Gaming Pro Wi-Fi AC ITX ‖ G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB 2800MHz ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ Seasonic SSP Flex ATX 300W PSU ‖ Cryorig C7 ‖ Velka 3 rev 1.2 SFF ITX Case (Grey) Laptop ‖ Dell XPS13 2-in-1 7390 (2020) ‖ i7-1065G7 ‖ 32GB 3733MHz LPDDR4x ‖ Intel Integrated Graphics ‖ 1TB NVME M.2 ‖ UHD+ (3840 x 2400) InfinityEdge Touch Display Keyboard Collection ‖ GMMK Full Size ‖ TOFU96 90% ‖ KBD8x MKII TKL ‖ Drop CTRL High Profile TKL ‖ KBD Bella 75% ‖ GMMK Pro 75% ‖ XD84 Pro 75% ‖ KBD67 V2 MKII 65% ‖ KBD67Lite 65% ‖ TOFU65 65% ‖ KBD Blade 60% ‖ Drop Carina 60% ‖ Southpaw75 60% w/ Left Numpad ‖ OLKB Preonic V3 Ortholinear ‖ CosPad XD24 ‖ KBDPad MKII Key Cap Collection ‖ GMK Boba Fett ‖ GMK Red Samurai ‖ GMK Laser CyberDeck +Novalties ‖ GMK Arch ‖ MaxKey B&W ‖ Drop MT3 Camillo ‖ Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty ‖ KBDfans Biip Torii Ext-2048 ‖ ePBT Less But Better +Novalties ‖ EnjoyPBT Dolch ‖ WinMix Mustard ‖ Drop Skylight Horizon & Slate ‖ Glorious Black Aura ‖ Mechanical Key Switch Collection ‖ Zealios V2 65g ‖ Zealios V2 78g ‖ Zilents V2 67g ‖ Tealios V2 67g ‖ C³ Kiwi ‖ C³ Tangerine ‖ Invyr Holy Panda ‖ Durock T1 67g ‖ Kailh Box Thick Jades ‖ Kailh Box Royal ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Dark Yellow ‖ Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange ‖ Kailh Box White ‖ Kailh Box Red ‖ Kailh Pro Purple ‖ Kailh Pro Burgandy ‖ Gateron Ink Black V2 ‖ Gateron Black ‖ Gateron Yellow ‖ Gateron Brown ‖ Gateron Green ‖ Gateron Blue ‖ Cherry MX Black ‖ Cherry MX Brown ‖ Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 52 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said: Okay so not much, I would search locally for used PC's. Sorry, wrong number it's 850€. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 18 hours ago, Eschew said: Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249? Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em. Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)? System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture) OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not. 8 minutes ago, FranciscoGuarda said: Sorry, wrong number it's 850€. 18 hours ago, Eschew said: Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249? Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em. Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)? System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese Reveal hidden contents CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture) OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150) 2 Year Warranty Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not. What if I change the motherboard to a MSI B350 Tomahawk? Or to the ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING? Or any one of these: https://www.chip7.pt/102-motherboards?refinementList[status][0]=1&refinementList[features.Fabricante do processador][0]=AMD&priceRanges[price]=80%3A110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 12 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said: Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. For a budget of around €850, using parts from reputable manufacturers: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €182.90 @ Globaldata Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €59.90 @ Globaldata Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €72.00 @ Globaldata Storage Silicon Power A60 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €107.96 @ Newegg Portugal Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive €39.90 @ Globaldata Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card €298.90 @ Globaldata Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case €141.47 @ Newegg Portugal Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply €128.07 @ Newegg Portugal Prices do not include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total €877.43 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-16 01:02 CEST+0200 For the CPU cooler, use the stock cooler that'll be bundled with the AMD Ryzen 5 3600. Changes from System 1 and System 2 I've upgraded the graphics card from the GTX 1660 Super to the GTX 1660 Ti. You can still stick with the ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Super if you'd like, but it's around the same price as the ZOTAC GTX 1660 Ti in Portugal (from online sellers, at least). There are also cheaper GTX 1660 Supers available, if you'd like to shave a few more bucks off from the total cost. I've added a 1 TB HDD that the default configurations of System 1 and System 2 don't include. Fractal Design's Focus G case is a good case with decent airflow, build quality, and cable management considering its budget price point. There are cheaper cases available if you want to shave a few bucks off from the total cost, but your system may or may not get toasty. The EVGA GD (2019) is rated a Tier B PSU on LukeSavenije's PSU Tier List. It should be a decent enough PSU that won't blow up your system and that should be covered by a reasonable warranty. Also, please kindly stop quoting me and please learn to snip quotes, thank you. 正直に生きる、一度きりの人生だから Keeb Weeb Links: Custom Mechanical Keyboards | #KeebWeebClub 'Chew Builds: Hoshī (PC) | Okashī (PC) | K-4398 (Keeb) | Eighty #391 (Keeb) | R2-968 (Keeb) | MGK64 (Keeb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 15, 2020 Author 59 minutes ago, Eschew said: Sorry And thanks bro, you helped me a lot! Also I think the price is wrong, it's +/- 1030€ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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