Posted March 6, 2020 This is my first pc build and i'm looking for a PSU around 100 dollars. parts that I've choose so far are: CPU: intel core i5 9600k 9th gen motherboard: asus prime z390-p case: corsair carbide spec-05 CPU cooler: noctua NH-12S RAM: G.skill tridentZ series 16GB storage: intel 660p series ssd 1TB Can you help me choose? Thanks (you can also say if some part that I've choose look you wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Any plans to add anything more in the future, like a dedicated GPU? I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Oren Dekel said: This is my first pc build and i'm looking for a PSU around 100 dollars. parts that I've choose so far are: CPU: intel core i5 9600k 9th gen motherboard: asus prime z390-p case: corsair carbide spec-05 CPU cooler: noctua NH-12S RAM: G.skill tridentZ series 16GB storage: intel 660p series ssd 1TB Can you help me choose? Thanks (you can also say if some part that I've choose look you wrong) If I'm not mistaken, I do not see a videocard in this build. Correct? Of course not getting a videocard is definitely possible, but depending on your purpose, it might not work very well (e.g. for gaming and video editing a videocard is basically mandatory). A videocard uses a lot of power too, so a PSU choice is highly dependent on that part as well. As is, the build will use about 200W of power at most, but a videocard can add 100-250W to that. Anyways, I would go for something like CX450 for the build as is, or a TX550M if you're going for a high(er) end videocard. Have you considered going Ryzen, by the way? "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said: Any plans to add anything more in the future, like a dedicated GPU? I'm kind of limited on the budget so I've decided to give up the GPU because i'm not gonna use the pc for gaming anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: I'm kind of limited on the budget so I've decided to give up the GPU because i'm not gonna use the pc for gaming anyway What kind of budget are you working with? What are you going to do with the PC anyways? Perhaps you're much better off with a Ryzen APU system for example. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: I'm kind of limited on the budget so I've decided to give up the GPU because i'm not gonna use the pc for gaming anyway As minibois says, what use you want to put it to could be helpful. You might be able to save some more money not fitting the Intel SSD and getting something cheaper, that might be more appropriate I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author 3 minutes ago, minibois said: What kind of budget are you working with? What are you going to do with the PC anyways? Perhaps you're much better off with a Ryzen APU system for example. My budget is about 1000 dollars and i'm learning cyber security and i'm using a lot of VMs. so i just want a pc that is stronger then my corrent laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author 4 minutes ago, ObsidianAura said: As minibois says, what use you want to put it to could be helpful. You might be able to save some more money not fitting the Intel SSD and getting something cheaper, that might be more appropriate The intel SSD was the best storage solution both becousevof the price and the capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: The intel SSD was the best storage solution both becousevof the price and the capacity. Fair enough, if it were me, I'd go with a 450w Corsair PSU, do you care if it's fully modular or not? Also how much do you care about your electric bill? Not that it'll make much difference at this end. I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: My budget is about 1000 dollars and i'm learning cyber security and i'm using a lot of VMs. so i just want a pc that is stronger then my corrent laptop. If you don't care about graphics and you plan on using lots of VMs, something like this would make a lot more sense for $1000: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $418.95 @ B&H CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $39.67 @ B&H Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ Amazon Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Amazon Video Card MSI GeForce GT 1030 2 GB 2GH LP OC Video Card $79.99 @ Walmart Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.94 @ Amazon Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $68.98 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $987.50 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-06 09:59 EST-0500 Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author 2 minutes ago, ObsidianAura said: Fair enough, if it were me, I'd go with a 450w Corsair PSU, do you care if it's fully modular or not? I do actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author 2 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: I do actually about the PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Oren Dekel said: My budget is about 1000 dollars and i'm learning cyber security and i'm using a lot of VMs. so i just want a pc that is stronger then my corrent laptop. VM's is a great reason to go Ryzen over Intel. Since an equivalent Ryzen CPU's to that i5 has 6c12t, instead of 6c6t on the i5, you can assign more cores to each VM. What I mean by that, is that the Ryzen may have the same amount of cores, but more 'threads'. Simply put, your software (like the VM software) sees these threads as cores to work on, meaning you can assign more cores to each VM, or just have more VM's in general. Usually it is recommend to give your host system about 2-4 threads and each VM you make.. Well it depends on what kind of OS it will run, but generally 1 or 2 is fine for a basic VM. But since the Ryzen has more threads to work with, that will make VM work a lot better. Since most Ryzen CPU's do not have integrated graphics, you do need a videocard of some sort to get video out. A PC like this is - in my opinion, which I will explain at the bottom of my post - a better more well-suited option: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($294.63 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CPU Cooler ($32.06 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($104.97 @ Amazon) Memory: *OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($142.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($123.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($94.96 @ Newegg) Total: $1001.56Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteriaGenerated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-06 10:03 EST-0500 CPU: With the Ryzen CPU, you have more threads to work with VM's. Specifically, 2 more cores, but 10 more threads. Memory: I increased the RAM to 32GB since in the same was as threads, you assign some to your host PC and to your VMs. Storage: The SSD is a faster one which can endure more data written to it than the Intel 660p Cooler: Just a good cooler which doesn't break the bank Case: Different case, because the Spec-05 just didn't fit any larger coolers (including the NH-U12S in your list) PSU: High quality PSU Videocard: Can be replaced with any cheap GT 1030 class videocard too, it's just there for video output (or maybe you need to do some compute tasks in your studies too? Like hashcat and such?) "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Author Thanks for you all I very appreciate your effort. I'm going to think about it a while but i think i'm gonna go with minibois. I do not understand much in those things so thank you for helping me. Again, thanks and have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 50 minutes ago, minibois said: Have you considered going Ryzen, by the way? LOL CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Constantin said: LOL Why are you laughing? Ryzen's a cheaper source of threads I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said: Why are you laughing? Ryzen's a cheaper source of threads Intel is still the best CPU for gaming. CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Constantin said: Intel is still the best CPU for gaming. OP is running VMs. Intel HEDT and Server platform enthusiasts: Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Megathread Main PC CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block Storage: 1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM OS: Windows 11 Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel) Mouse: EVGA X17 Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3 Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, 128GB SD card swap, running Rockbox), Nintendo Switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Constantin said: Intel is still the best CPU for gaming. Even if that were true, this PC is for running VMs not gaming. I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 I'd only just noticed Intel 9th gen CPUs dropped hyper-threading? The 9500k would have been a poor choice, the 8500K would even be better. I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Constantin said: Intel is still the best CPU for gaming. At 1080p/240Hz....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Constantin said: LOL 12 minutes ago, Constantin said: Intel is still the best CPU for gaming. OP: 1 hour ago, Oren Dekel said: I'm kind of limited on the budget so I've decided to give up the GPU because i'm not gonna use the pc for gaming anyway Not sure what you're trying to provoke here Constantin, but this low quality bait is not working. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, minibois said: 1 hour ago, Oren Dekel said: because i'm not gonna use the pc for gaming anyway My bad didn't see that CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 7, 2020 Going Ryzen adds cores and threads for the same price, but it removes the igp so a dedicated graphics-card is necessary. But why go with the 1650 SC even if it is a good one? Price is outstanding, but considering the use-case it is overkill. OP may even get a GT 730 or R7 240 instead, cards that have a very low power-draw and aren't build for gaming, but still offers a sufficient performance. I also prefer a separate drive for the vms. Maybe OP likes to add external drives as well?! Using PCP I came out with this: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($294.63 @ B&H) Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg) Memory: OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg) Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.99 @ Best Buy) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI GeForce GT 1030 2 GB 2GH LP OC Video Card ($79.99 @ Walmart) Case: Silverstone PS08B MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($54.49 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ B&H) Total: $867.96 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-07 05:12 EST-0500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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