[CES 2020] Laptop News Megathread

[genexis_x]

Notes:

• Laptops only!
• Some laptops shown in CES which had already launched a few weeks back will not be included here
• Source/link is attached to the laptop name
• This thread will be updated regularly

AMD Ryzen mobile 4000 series: 6c6t/6c12t R5, 8c8t/8c16t R7, increased cache count

Spoiler

Notice that there is no 4c8t option in H series to compete with i5-9300H/8300H - AMD wants to start the core count war

Note: New Athlon chips aren't Zen 2

 

AMD Radeon RX5700M, RX5600M (5600XT): higher end mobile GPUs from AMD - no more Nvidia domination in laptop market?

Note: There is also RX5300M

 

Laptops with unspecified 'latest Nvidia graphics' are probably equipped with MX250 successor (which is still Pascal) or Super GPUs

 

Acer

Spoiler

Spin 5: Ice Lake, 3:2 display, convertible

 

Spin 3: Ice Lake, convertible

 

ConceptD 7 Ezel: Another Triton 900

 

Travelmate P2 and P6 refresh: now with MX GPU

 

Swift 3: SF313-52/G with 3:2 display, Ice Lake; SF314-42 with Ryzen 4000 U (TB3 only in Intel version)

Asus

Spoiler

Zephyrus G15: Zen 2 gaming laptop: up to 2060MQ 65W

From Tech News subforum: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1142181-more-cores-on-the-way-ryzen-4800hs-on-asus-laptop/

 

Vivobooks: S333/S433/S533, S413/S513, F413/F513: not just a refresh

 

ExpertBook B9: another 'business' Ultrabook under 1kg

 

TUF A15/A17 (FA506/FA706) : minor redesign, up to R7-4800H CPU, 3200MHz RAM, 1660Ti/2060, plastic or aluminium lid. No more low sRGB 120Hz (144Hz), optional 90Wh battery

 

TUF FX506/FX706: minor redesign, 10th gen H series CPU, AX WIFI. The rest same with AMD counterpart

 

Zephyrus G14 (second link) : 14 inch thin and light gaming laptop! 35W R7 4800HS, up to 2060MQ 65W, 120Hz 1080p or 60Hz 1440p panel, USB C charging supported, AnimeMatrix lid

Clevo

Spoiler

NH57ADS: R9 3900 12c24t desktop CPU in a laptop, no switchable graphics due to no iGPU. Looks like N960 though

(photo credit: LinusTech)

 

XMG Ultra 17: the return of X170 (X170SM-G): optional (?) 1000 nits mini LED, unknown specs

 

Schenker Via 14 (German) : L140CU: Comet Lake, 73Wh battery, ultra light weight Ultrabook

Dell

Spoiler

XPS 13 9300: no more confusing naming scheme, 16:10 display, thank god SSD is upgradeable unlike the new XPS 13 2 in 1, Ice Lake

 

Latitude 9510, 9510 2 in 1: Ultrabook or business laptop?

 

G5 15 SE: All AMD: R7-4800H paired with RX5600M (5600XT mobile), starting $799

HP

Spoiler

Spectre x360 15: 1650Ti? Unreleased 'latest' Nvidia graphics?

Lenovo

Spoiler

Legion Y740s aka Y7000X: 10th gen H series CPU, no dGPU, 4 fans

 

Ideapad Creator 5, Yoga Creator 7: Quadro RTX GPU

 

ThinkPad X1 Fold: foldable screen, available mid 2020, high price

 

Ducati 5: just an Ideapad, Ice Lake

 

ThinkBook Plus: display on lid

 

Yoga Slim 7 14: Ice Lake with optional MX GPU and UHD display, TB3. Or AMD Ryzen 4000

 

Yoga Slim 7 15: unspecified Intel 10th Gen CPU, unspecified MX/GTX GPU

MSI

Spoiler

Creator 17 (German link) : P75 with 'mini-LED'

 

Prestige 14 in Pink colour (German link)

 

GE66 (German link) : complete redesign from GE65, optional 300Hz, 99.9Wh battery, GT76 look, 10th gen H series CPU

 

GS66 (German link) : redesign: 0.78 inches, 4.6lbs, optional 300Hz, 99.9Wh battery, front facing speakers, 10th gen H series CPU

 

GF65 Camo

 

Bravo 15: AMD version of GF65? 4000 series H CPU, up to RX5500M

Tongfang

Spoiler

Schenker Via 15 (German) : Mag-15u chassis with Ryzen 4000 U, 91Wh battery

 

Eluktronics Max-15 (GK5-Y: updated version of GK5-Z): lightest 15 inch gaming laptop, no more mech kb+per key RGB, nosecam, Eluktroboost (2070 now Max-P, no more Max-Q+boost)

Note: Illegear is the first reseller that offers this chassis, which is about a month ago

 

Eluktronics Max-17: 17 inch version of QC7 aka Mag-15 (model name unknown yet): lightest 17 inch gaming laptop, long battery life, TB3, no more mech kb+per key RGB, nosecam, Eluktroboost

Note: Illegear is the first reseller that offers this chassis, which is about a month ago

Others

Spoiler

NEC Lavie Pro: 837g Ultrabook

NEC Lavie Vega: i7-9750H, 4K display, no USB A, unique aesthetics, weird keyboard layout

 

Dynabook Portege X30L: 870g 'business' Ultrabook

 

Avita Pura, Avita Admiror: affordable regular use laptops

 

Razer Blade 10th gen update, RB15 up to 300Hz panel

 

LG Gram lineup 10th gen update: 80Wh upgraded battery capacity

Any feedback is welcome and appreciated to improve this thread

Edited January 12, 2020 by genexis_x

[That Franc]

Really waiting for manufacturers to start showing Zen 2 laptops, but I guess AMD needs to announce Ryzen 4000 first.

[mr mans]

Come on laptop manufacturers, let's see some actually useful display ratios like 16:10 or 3:2. The classic 16:9 is weak

[That Franc]

AMD just showed off a mobile 15 watt 8c16t processor with a 1.8 GHz base and 4.2 GHz boost clocks. They're insane!

Oh, and there's apparently a 1.5cm thick Lenovo Yoga laptop sporting that chip.

2020 is going to be a great year for laptops.

 

[Doobeedoo]

So awesome to see so many models this year.

[CephDigital]

Strange, no laptops announced with the new RX 5700M

[genexis_x]

2 hours ago, TheUberMedic said:

Strange, no laptops announced with the new RX 5700M

TBH I'll prefer Ryzen CPU+Nvidia GPU. New RX GPUs aren't that great in laptops as shown in Alpha 15 - same issue as before: higher power consumption+heat while providing disappointing performance

[GoldenLag]

18 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

TBH I'll prefer Ryzen CPU+Nvidia GPU. New RX GPUs aren't that great in laptops as shown in Alpha 15 - same issue as before: higher power consumption+heat while providing disappointing performance

if there has to be a GPU in it. AMD really doesnt make a lot of sense, unless its clocked really low, the power requirements are too high. 

 

will love to see how the idlepowerdraw of Zen 2 mobile, tho im guessing its not great, at least on the first iterations. 

[genexis_x]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

its not great

the chip with higher efficiency will win in laptops

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, genexis_x said:

the chip with higher efficiency will win in laptops

efficiency is king, because its heatouput that is performance limiting, and batterylife is the main concern when not doing heavy tasks. 

[genexis_x]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

efficiency is king, because its heatouput that is performance limiting, and batterylife is the main concern when not doing heavy tasks. 

idk why but new RX GPUs don't have excellent efficiency like Zen 2 CPUs, even though both of them are 7nm, hope someone can explain why

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

idk why but new RX GPUs don't have excellent efficiency like Zen 2 CPUs, even though both of them are 7nm, hope someone can explain why

memmory controller is fairly powerhungry, why they didnt do a small buss with a big core and lower coreclock is beyond me. offcourse its expencive, but you want to compete in the laptop space not be second place. 

 

it could also be the GCN blood that RDNA retains that will haunt it for its early iterations. 

[Brooksie359]

9 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

idk why but new RX GPUs don't have excellent efficiency like Zen 2 CPUs, even though both of them are 7nm, hope someone can explain why

Architecture most likely. 

[MrRavens]

Dang it, I wanted the 1440p monitor ASUS laptops to still have a decent frame rate. Even 90hz would have been fine for me. Oh well lol. 

[genexis_x]

1 minute ago, LtRavens said:

Dang it, I wanted the 1440p monitor ASUS laptops to still have a decent frame rate. Even 90hz would have been fine for me. Oh well lol. 

gaming laptops below 15 inch are extremely rare, we'll see whether Asus is able to design a capable cooling solution to tame the heat of CPU+GPU in Zephyrus G14

[cj09beira]

32 minutes ago, genexis_x said:

idk why but new RX GPUs don't have excellent efficiency like Zen 2 CPUs, even though both of them are 7nm, hope someone can explain why

 

23 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

memmory controller is fairly powerhungry, why they didnt do a small buss with a big core and lower coreclock is beyond me. offcourse its expencive, but you want to compete in the laptop space not be second place. 

 

it could also be the GCN blood that RDNA retains that will haunt it for its early iterations. 

it seems to me like they got more frequency out of the core than they planned so they went for gold, various frequency/voltage curves done by users show that at 10% lower performance power can drop by near 100w, they also couldn't go lower in memory bus, unless they went for the much more expensive 16/18Gbps modules, they were probably able to push the whole line up by 50 bucks, which while not the best thing for us, they still aren't bad value.

Polaris still having inventory that needed to be sold is probably also another reason for the price uplift as they had to take that into account when releasing the cards, it seems like the high inventory levels have changed 2 gpu launch plans by now (first with the 12nm polaris cards)

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

they also couldn't go lower in memory bus, unless they went for the much more expensive 16/18Gbps modules, they were probably able to push the whole line up by 50 bucks,

that depends on the performance target for that chip. 

 

you can drop the coreclock of a chip and use a smaller memmory bus than otherwise needed to feed the core.