Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

[Jurrunio]

29 minutes ago, byGepo said:

my favorite so far:

• Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro

and saw these available as well but cost 60-70 bucks more:

• AsRock X570 Taichi

• ASUS Rog Strix X570-E Gaming

edit: also came across these

• Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite

• ASUS Rog Strix X570-F Gaming

 

is one superior to the others or are these all similar and/or comparable (to another and/or to the tomahawk)?

 

thanks for any advice

any reason why B550 isnt considered?

[byGepo]

40 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

any reason why B550 isnt considered?

good question ... the only stuff i can think of is:

- upgrading to a 2nd NVME

- does chipset fans make a difference?

- VRMs but after a quick google it seems like thats only the case for high end boards

 

so i guess i should go for a B550 right?

 

following are available rn with bios flashback:

• MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI / 235.-

• ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING / 251.-

• ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING / 203.-

also saw the aorus elite + pro but looks like they dont have flashback...

 

which one would you go for? an added bonus is that with the MSI i get a free copy of AC Valhalla 

 

if you recommend anything else which is way better i can check if thats available as well

 

thanks and cheers

 

 

[p0ttus]

I got the 5900X and some crucial ballistix cl16 3600 micron rev - e ram. I want to start to some serious overlcoking but not extreme coupled with a Arctic Liquid 360 (open to other suggestions). I don't necessarily have a budget and don't need to many USB / SATA / M2 / SLI. No need for good networking since my network is only 100mbps, I believe even shit realtek chips perform the same on these speeds with the better intel versions. Is that right?

 

If there isn't any noticeable difference between ALC1220VB - ALC1220 - ALC1200 while using an external DAC then the only thing that matters for me is the OC capabilities of the board. What should I get? I was considering:

X570 Tomahawk

X570 Unify

X570 Tuf Pro

Other Asus boards like the X570-Pro / X570-E

Gigabyte boards like the X570 Aorus Pro / Ultra.

 

If lower budget boards like the B550 Aorus Pro / B550 Tomahawk can handle moderate to serious OC. I can just go get them too?

 

[Mateyyy]

3 hours ago, byGepo said:

good question ... the only stuff i can think of is:

- upgrading to a 2nd NVME

- does chipset fans make a difference?

- VRMs but after a quick google it seems like thats only the case for high end boards

 

so i guess i should go for a B550 right?

 

following are available rn with bios flashback:

• MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI / 235.-

• ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E GAMING / 251.-

• ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING / 203.-

also saw the aorus elite + pro but looks like they dont have flashback...

 

which one would you go for? an added bonus is that with the MSI i get a free copy of AC Valhalla 

 

if you recommend anything else which is way better i can check if thats available as well

 

thanks and cheers

You can have multiple M.2 drives on B550 too, it's just that only one slot is wired for PCIe 4.0.

The B550 Aorus Pro does have BIOS Flashback, and so do several other B550 motherboards.

 

The B550 Gaming Carbon is pointless, unless you need the extra rear USB ports over the Gaming Edge WIFI and Tomahawk, in which case you should just get an Aorus Pro anyway.

The Strix B550-E is again pointless since it doesn't offer anything compelling over the B550-F, other than the Front Type-C connector and maybe a couple extra USB/SATA ports. If you need either of those things, you could just go with either an MSI board or a B550 Aorus Pro v2 (since the v1 doesn't have a Front Type-C connector).

 

14 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

I got the 5900X and some crucial ballistix cl16 3600 micron rev - e ram. I want to start to some serious overlcoking but not extreme coupled with a Arctic Liquid 360 (open to other suggestions). I don't necessarily have a budget and don't need to many USB / SATA / M2 / SLI. No need for good networking since my network is only 100mbps, I believe even shit realtek chips perform the same on these speeds with the better intel versions. Is that right?

 

If there isn't any noticeable difference between ALC1220VB - ALC1220 - ALC1200 while using an external DAC then the only thing that matters for me is the OC capabilities of the board. What should I get? I was considering:

X570 Tomahawk

X570 Unify

X570 Tuf Pro

Other Asus boards like the X570-Pro / X570-E

Gigabyte boards like the X570 Aorus Pro / Ultra.

 

If lower budget boards like the B550 Aorus Pro / B550 Tomahawk can handle moderate to serious OC. I can just go get them too?

Any of the boards you mentioned will handle an overclocked 5900X just fine. 

 

In the case of the X570 boards, if you don't really care about bells and whistles, I'd look at either the TUF X570-Plus, X570 Aorus Elite, or I guess the X570 Tomahawk if you can get your hands on it for a good price (since it generally tends to be quite a bit more expensive). Even a Prime X570-P would work, though that's really barebones if you ask me.

If I didn't care about cost and I had to choose between the X570 boards you mentioned, I'd get the Unify, with the X570-E as my second choice. The X570 Aorus Ultra is especially bad value since it doesn't offer a whole lot extra over the X570 Aorus Pro, which also doesn't offer a whole lot over the X570 Aorus Elite in the first place.

 

If you don't plan on throwing in multiple PCIe 4.0 SSDs, I don't see why you shouldn't just go with B550. 

Both the B550 Aorus Pro and B550 Tomahawk will work perfectly fine for overclocking (in fact the VRMs on these boards are better than what's on several X570 motherboards).

[byGepo]

47 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

You can have multiple M.2 drives on B550 too, it's just that only one slot is wired for PCIe 4.0.

The B550 Aorus Pro does have BIOS Flashback, and so do several other B550 motherboards.

 

The B550 Gaming Carbon is pointless, unless you need the extra rear USB ports over the Gaming Edge WIFI and Tomahawk, in which case you should just get an Aorus Pro anyway.

The Strix B550-E is again pointless since it doesn't offer anything compelling over the B550-F, other than the Front Type-C connector and maybe a couple extra USB/SATA ports. If you need either of those things, you could just go with either an MSI board or a B550 Aorus Pro v2 (since the v1 doesn't have a Front Type-C connector).

 

Any of the boards you mentioned will handle an overclocked 5900X just fine. 

 

In the case of the X570 boards, if you don't really care about bells and whistles, I'd look at either the TUF X570-Plus, X570 Aorus Elite, or I guess the X570 Tomahawk if you can get your hands on it for a good price (since it generally tends to be quite a bit more expensive). Even a Prime X570-P would work, though that's really barebones if you ask me.

If I didn't care about cost and I had to choose between the X570 boards you mentioned, I'd get the Unify, with the X570-E as my second choice. The X570 Aorus Ultra is especially bad value since it doesn't offer a whole lot extra over the X570 Aorus Pro, which also doesn't offer a whole lot over the X570 Aorus Elite in the first place.

 

If you don't plan on throwing in multiple PCIe 4.0 SSDs, I don't see why you shouldn't just go with B550. 

Both the B550 Aorus Pro and B550 Tomahawk will work perfectly fine for overclocking (in fact the VRMs on these boards are better than what's on several X570 motherboards).

Thanks for your reply.

 

Sorry for the Aorus mistake, was looking at the wrong row in the AM4 comparison doc. I only checked out boards who are available here and now.

 

So B550 Gaming Carbon pointless unless USB ports needed -> not needed -> ok but Gaming Edge & Tomahawk are not available rn

Strix B550-E pointless over B550-F in most cases, ok

 

The B550 Aorus Pro is perfectly fine for my case then, right?

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

7 minutes ago, byGepo said:

The B550 Aorus Pro is perfectly fine for my case then, right?

I don't see why it wouldn't be, it's a very solid all-rounder as far as B550 boards go.

[Bamfhammer]

Don't forget about the MSI B550 Unify, though it is more for overclocking than for regular usage, and is only $10 less than the X570 Unify.

Would like to see this B550 Unify land on the list up top.

[Mateyyy]

4 minutes ago, Bamfhammer said:

Don't forget about the MSI B550 Unify, though it is more for overclocking than for regular usage, and is only $10 less than the X570 Unify.

Would like to see this B550 Unify land on the list up top.

It's pretty safe to say that it is/will be in "Tier S".

 

That being said, you said it yourself - it's only $10 cheaper than the X570 Unify.

The B550 Unify-X at least is interesting because of its 1DPC topology, so it's a solid choice is memory overclocking is what you're after. The non-X however is kind of meh, to be honest. I guess it "makes sense" if you're sure that you'll never use more than a single PCIe 4.0 SSD and prefer the look of it as opposed to the X570 Unify.

[p0ttus]

3 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

You can have multiple M.2 drives on B550 too, it's just that only one slot is wired for PCIe 4.0.

The B550 Aorus Pro does have BIOS Flashback, and so do several other B550 motherboards.

 

The B550 Gaming Carbon is pointless, unless you need the extra rear USB ports over the Gaming Edge WIFI and Tomahawk, in which case you should just get an Aorus Pro anyway.

The Strix B550-E is again pointless since it doesn't offer anything compelling over the B550-F, other than the Front Type-C connector and maybe a couple extra USB/SATA ports. If you need either of those things, you could just go with either an MSI board or a B550 Aorus Pro v2 (since the v1 doesn't have a Front Type-C connector).

 

Any of the boards you mentioned will handle an overclocked 5900X just fine. 

 

In the case of the X570 boards, if you don't really care about bells and whistles, I'd look at either the TUF X570-Plus, X570 Aorus Elite, or I guess the X570 Tomahawk if you can get your hands on it for a good price (since it generally tends to be quite a bit more expensive). Even a Prime X570-P would work, though that's really barebones if you ask me.

If I didn't care about cost and I had to choose between the X570 boards you mentioned, I'd get the Unify, with the X570-E as my second choice. The X570 Aorus Ultra is especially bad value since it doesn't offer a whole lot extra over the X570 Aorus Pro, which also doesn't offer a whole lot over the X570 Aorus Elite in the first place.

 

If you don't plan on throwing in multiple PCIe 4.0 SSDs, I don't see why you shouldn't just go with B550. 

Both the B550 Aorus Pro and B550 Tomahawk will work perfectly fine for overclocking (in fact the VRMs on these boards are better than what's on several X570 motherboards).

Thank you very much. Which tier would you put the X570 TUF Pro? Can't see it on the list.

 

Also I may need more USB in the future. Would a USB Hub offer less performance than onbard USB? If not, why are people prioritizing USB amounts on motherboards?

[Bamfhammer]

15 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

It's pretty safe to say that it is/will be in "Tier S".

 

That being said, you said it yourself - it's only $10 cheaper than the X570 Unify.

The B550 Unify-X at least is interesting because of its 1DPC topology, so it's a solid choice is memory overclocking is what you're after. The non-X however is kind of meh, to be honest. I guess it "makes sense" if you're sure that you'll never use more than a single PCIe 4.0 SSD and prefer the look of it as opposed to the X570 Unify.

It would be nice if the B550, at this price point, had some extra features for overclocking like a temperature and flow sensor connector for loops because it is clearly geared towards overclocking in regular use. I have an X570 on the way, but entertained the B550 for a bit and might end up changing my mind if my USB 3.1 connector cannot reach the port on the X570 (it is in a really stupid spot). Currently there are no extension cables of this type available.

And I am sure I would not use more than one PCIe 4.0 SSD. Also sure I wont use a full 16x PCIe card in addition to my video card as well.

[Mateyyy]

46 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

Thank you very much. Which tier would you put the X570 TUF Pro? Can't see it on the list.

The TUF Pro and Plus have the same VRM, with fairly similar looking heatsinks, so they should be about on par in terms of VRM thermals.

46 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

Also I may need more USB in the future. Would a USB Hub offer less performance than onbard USB? If not, why are people prioritizing USB amounts on motherboards?

There are a few factors that come into play there, but probably not. 

Either because they're short on PCIe lanes, or because of aesthetics, or probably several other potential reasons. Depends on who you ask.

[p0ttus]

2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The TUF Pro and Plus have the same VRM, with fairly similar looking heatsinks, so they should be about on par in terms of VRM thermals.

There are a few factors that come into play there, but probably not. 

Either because they're short on PCIe lanes, or because of aesthetics, or probably several other potential reasons. Depends on who you ask.

Will I have serious issues manual overclocking without a POST code?

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

Will I have serious issues manual overclocking without a POST code?

I mean... the POST code is nice to have if you mess around with several settings really often I guess, but I wouldn't say that having one is imperative if you'll be overclocking.

So, serious issues - most likely not.

[Bamfhammer]

19 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

Will I have serious issues manual overclocking without a POST code?

I don't thin you will have 'issues', however, when your computer doesnt post for whatever reason, it is very nice to know what is going on. Was it RAM, was it something else. Helps speed things up and give you a piece of mind. My biggest gripe with post codes, however, is that if you resume from sleep or hibernation, you get a different code than a normal boot that looks like an error, but it is really just telling you it resumed from a sleep state.

[Xt1nxt_Ace]

On 12/23/2019 at 6:10 PM, Jurrunio said:

Credit to:@VegetableStu @GoldenLag @LukeSavenije

 

The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands.

 

There are still differences in performance among boards of the same tier. As a result, those that barely made it into that tier will be in orange while those that are better than others in the same tier are in blue. Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same.

 

For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing

 

AMD

 

All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario.

 

Only often recommended sku of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating.

 

Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.

 

For tier A and above, due to lack of feasible CPUs that allow testing of the boards at higher current ratings, there are some level on guessing in terms of how much more power the VRM can take.

 

AM4 (Athlon, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)

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Tier S: 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 5950X and 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Hero, Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme, B550 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Godlike, Creation

 

Tier S-: 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5900X and 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 X570-E, Pro WS Ace, B550 B550-E

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator, B550 Taichi

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master, B550 Aorus Pro (& AC) (ATX), Vision D

MSI: X570 Ace, Unify, Tomahawk, B550 Tomahawk, Edge (ATX), Carbon

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5950X and 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Crosshair VIII Impact, X570-I, X570-P, B550 B550-A, B550-F, TUF Plus (ATX & mATX & mATX WiFi), X470 Crosshair VII Hero, B450 TUF Pro S (mATX), X370 Crosshair VI Extreme

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, B550 Extreme 4, Steel Legend (ATX), Velocita X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), B550 Aorus Elite (ATX) X470 Gaming 7

MSI: B550 A-Pro, Gaming Plus, Mortar

 

Tier B: 160A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 5900X and 3900X, 3950x at 1.2V on ambient cooling, maxed out 1800X on LN2

Asus: X470 X470-F, X370 Crosshair VI Hero, X370-F

Asrock: X570 Extreme4, Steel Legend, Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4, B550 Steel Legend (mATX)

Biostar: X570 GT8, X470 GT8, X370 GT7

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Elite, ITX

MSI: X470 M7 AC, Gaming Pro Carbon

 

Tier C :125A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2700, 3900x and 5900X at 1.2V on ambient cooling (P95)

Asus: X370 Prime Pro

Asrock: B550 Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4

Gigabyte: X570 UD, Gaming X, B550 Aorus Pro (mATX), Gaming X, X370 Gaming K7, Gaming 5

MSI: X570 Gaming Pro Carbon, B550 Pro-VDH WiFi, Pro-DASH, Bazooka, X470 Gaming Plus, B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (& Max), Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), B450-A Pro (& Max) (ATX), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX, X370 M7 ACK, XPower Titanium

 

Tier D :100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1700, 3700X and 5800X, a tad more than maxed out 2600/1600AF, 105W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: X470 Prime Pro, X470-I, B450 TUF Pro (mATX and ATX), B450-E, B450-I, X370 X370-I, B350 B350-I

Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, ITX, B450 Pro4 (mATX and ATX), Pro4-F, K4, M/AC, Steel Legend, ITX, B350 Pro4, K4

Gigabyte: X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, B550 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming, DS3H, B450 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming

MSI: X570 X570-A Pro, Gaming Plus, Edge, X470 Gaming Pro, B450 Pro-VDH (& Max & V2), Bazooka (& Max Wifi & V2), X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming, SLI Plus, Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B350 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming

 

Tier E: 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600, 3600 and 5600X, a bit more than maxed out 2500X, 95W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: B550 B550M-A, X470 TUF Plus, B450 B450-F, TUF Plus (mATX and ATX), Prime Plus, X370 X370-A, B350 B350-F, Prime Plus, TUF Plus

Asrock: B450 HDV, X370 Gaming X, Killer SLI, mITX, K4, Pro4, B350 ITX, HDV, AB350M

Biostar: X470 GTA, GTQ, GTN, X370 GT5, GT3, B350 GT5, GT3, GTN

Gigabyte: B450 Aorus Pro (ATX), Aorus Elite (ATX), Aorus M, Gaming X, S2H, DS3H, ITX, X370 Gaming K5, K3, 3, Gaming, DS3H, B350 Gaming 3, Gaming, DASH, DS3H, AB350N Gaming-WiFi

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 (& Max), B350 Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, PC Mate, Bazooka, Mortar, Pro-VDH, Pro-VH Plus, Pro-VD Plus

 

Tier F: 50A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1200/2200G (CPU only)/3100/3300X or 65W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

Asus: B550 B550M-K, B450 B450M-K, B450M-A, Dragon, B350 B350M-A, B350M-E, B350M-K

Asrock: B450 HDV R4.0, B350 HDV R3.0, HDV R4.0

Biostar: X570 GT, B350 B45M2, HiFi B350S1, ET2

Gigabyte: B350 D3H, D3V, HD3, DS2, B450 B450 H

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 V2, B450M-A Pro, B350 Gaming Pro

 

Tier H2O: Liquid cooled only VRM, quite bad if cooled only with air, tier S if liquid cooled

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Formula

Asrock: X570 Aqua

 

Tier W: Workstation features, can appear here and above tiers

Asus: X570 Pro WS Ace (proper ECC certification) 

Asrock rack: X570 D2I, D4U-2L2T, D4I-2T, X470 D4U (ECC cert + KVM switch), D4U2-2T (ECC cert + KVM switch)

 

 

B550 Speculation: If you cant find the board above, then it should be here. If it's already up there, then ignore what it's placed here

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Tier B: Asrock Phantom Gaming ITX, Asus B550-I, Biostar GTA, GTQ, Gigabyte Aorus Pro ITX, Aorus Pro-P (mATX) MSI Edge ITX

 

Tier C : Asrock B550M-ITX

 

Tier D : Asus Prime B550 Plus, Gigabyte S2H

 

Tier F:  Gigabyte B550M H

 

 

TR4 (Ryzen Threadripper 1xxx and 2xxx) X399

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Tier LN2: 700A current draw under mist of liquid nitrogen and high RPM fan (ambient air? unrealistic), maxed out 2990WX under an awful lot of liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier S: 500A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out (1.35v) 2990WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2970WX on liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier A: 400A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2990WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Someone occupy here plz

 

Tier B: 350A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2990WX limited to 1.175v (P95)

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme

 

Tier C 300A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Asus: Zenith Extreme with cooling kit

 

Tier D 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2950X on ambient cooling, 2970WX limited to 1.15v (P95)

Asus: Zenith Extreme

MSI: Gaming Pro Carbon AC, SLI Plus

 

Tier E: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2920X and 1950X on ambient cooling

Asus: X399-E, X399-A

Asrock: Taichi (mATX & ATX), Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: Gaming 7, Designare EX, Aorus Pro

 

Tier F: 150A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1920X on ambient cooling

Asrock: Phantom 6

 

Tier G: 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1900X on ambient cooling

Thank god nothing is here

 

sTRX4 (Ryzen Threadripper 3xxx) TRX40 (largely guessing since there's little data)

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Tier S: 500A current draw in low airflow condition (i.e. no case fan blowing over the VRM), maxed out 3990X (1.3v) with watercooling (to the point which it doesnt thermal throttle)

Asus: Zenith II Extreme Alpha, Zenith II Extreme

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, Aorus Xtreme

MSI: Creator

Tier A: 350A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X conservative (1.2v) overclock
Asus: Prime Pro, Prime Pro S, TRX40-E, TRX40-XE

 

Tier B: 275A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X locked to 300W PPT, maxed out 3970X

Gigabyte: Aorus Pro

MSI: Pro WiFi, Pro 10G

 

Tier C : 225A current draw in low airflow condition, 3970X stock and maxed out 3960X

Asrock: Taichi, Creator

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sources:

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Hardwareluxx.de: VRM parts table (AM4 B350/X370/B450/X470)

 

Hardware Unboxed: MSI X570 Unify; Flagship X570 VRM thermal test; Affordable X570 VRM Thermals; Budget X570 VRM Thermals; 3950X on B450 boards; TRX40 boards with overclocked 3990X; Some MSI boards; Cheaper B550 board test

 

/u/CR1318 on reddit: Motherboard Tier List

 

Tweaktown: biostar x370gt7; biostar x370gtn gaming; biostar a320mh pro gaming

 

Buildzoid: Gigabyte's Z390 lineup; Asrock X470 Master SLI; Asrock AB350M Pro 4, AB350 Pro 4 and AB350 Gaming K4; ASUS Prime X470-Pro; Asrock X370 Taichi; MSI X470 Gaming Plus; MSI B450M Mortar Titanium; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme; ASUS Maximus XI Apex; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra; MSI MEG X399 Creation; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi; ASUS TUF B450M-Pro Gaming; ASUS TUF B450M-Pro Gaming; Asrock X470 Master SLI / Gaming K4; "Asrock X470 Master SLI VRM temperature sensing is broken"; EVGA Z370 Micro; Gigabyte B450M Gaming; EVGA Z390 FTW; Gigabyte X370 Gaming K5; Asrock X570 Pro4; Asus X570 Strix-E; Gigabyte x570; MSI x570; Asrock x570; Asus x570; Asus X570 Prime-P; Asus X570 Strix-F; Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra; Gigabyte X570 Gaming X;

 

GN (Buidzoid): Best Motherboards for AMD Ryzen 2018 - AM4 X470 & B450; Best Z390 Motherboards for VRMs, 10Gb LAN, Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX (2018); Best AM4 Motherboards for Overclocking (X370 & B350); EVGA X299 DARK; MSI Z390 Godlike; ASUS Maximus XI Hero; ASUS Crosshair VI Hero X370; ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme; EVGA X299 DARK; MSI X570 Tomahawk

 

Bitwit: Biostar Racing X370 GTN

 

Kitguru: MSI TRX40 Creator

 

Sebelas Hardware: Biostar Racing X370 GT3

 

hardwareinside.de: biostar-racing x370gt5

 

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Is there the x470 gaming plus max on this list i cant find it i believe it should be in parenthesis with max next to x470 gaming plus

[imajerec]

any info on the msi b450m pro vdh max mosfets? i've read that the b450m pro vdh v2 uses worse mosfets than the v1. curious if the b450m pro vdh max uses same mosfets as v1

 

here is the thread : 

 

[Haro]

9 minutes ago, imajerec said:

any info on the msi b450m pro vdh max mosfets?

The V2 has a different PCB than the B450m pro vdh max, The B450m pro vdh max still has the 4 SM4337 and 8 SM4503, the V2 has worse Niko mosfets. 

[imajerec]

11 minutes ago, Haro said:

The V2 has a different PCB than the B450m pro vdh max, The B450m pro vdh max still has the 4 SM4337 and 8 SM4503, the V2 has worse Niko mosfets. 

as the Mortar B450M ?

[Haro]

5 minutes ago, imajerec said:

as the Mortar B450M ?

They didn't change anything about the B450m Mortar/Mortar Max IIRC, it has more high side mosfets compared to the Pro Vdh max, so it has 8 SM4337 and 8 SM4503. 

[Morvans]

Excluding pci slots and rear i/o. 

What is better asus tuf 570-plus or b550m mortar wifi? Both at same price.

 

 

[Jurrunio]

46 minutes ago, imajerec said:

as the Mortar B450M ?

If it's a V2, treat it like a B350.

 

7 minutes ago, Morvans said:

Excluding pci slots and rear i/o. 

What is better asus tuf 570-plus or b550m mortar wifi? Both at same price.

In theory the TUF Plus has more stuff

 

1 hour ago, Xt1nxt_Ace said:

Is there the x470 gaming plus max on this list i cant find it i believe it should be in parenthesis with max next to x470 gaming plus

It's like the Gaming Plus.

[Morvans]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

 

In theory the TUF Plus has more stuff

 

And the VRM ?  it also appears that the x570-plus tuf has a Lan chipset is weak

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Morvans said:

And the VRM ? 

bigger but not useful.

[p0ttus]

So what is the difference between an excellent VRM like the B550 Aorus Master and a very good VRM like the X570 Unify / Tomahawk? Would there be a difference in manual hardcore overcloking with an AIO? Or does the difference start to begin in extreme overclocks with LN2 or dry ice?

 

 

[Jurrunio]

22 minutes ago, p0ttus said:

So what is the difference between an excellent VRM like the B550 Aorus Master and a very good VRM like the X570 Unify / Tomahawk? Would there be a difference in manual hardcore overcloking with an AIO? Or does the difference start to begin in extreme overclocks with LN2 or dry ice?

 

 

I already explained what each tier means in the list. Once the VRM can handle the power draw of a CPU with ease, making it bigger is pointless