Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

 @LukeSavenije made one

and it's really outdated... currently busy with other things

[ArcaneHaze]

Has the ROG Strix B550-XE been tested? Where would it place on this list? I'm guessing similarly to the B550-E, as it's got similar specs, but has this been verified?

[Haro]

13 minutes ago, ArcaneHaze said:

Has the ROG Strix B550-XE been tested?

The Strix-XE just replaces the MP869902 70A power stages found on the Strix-E with TDA21490 90A power stages, so it's technically a bit better but it's nothing really major. So it would be in S tier. Other than that they're the same board. 

[ArcaneHaze]

2 minutes ago, Haro said:

The Strix-XE just replaces the MP869902 70A power stages found on the Strix-E with TDA21490 90A power stages, so it's technically a bit better but it's nothing really major. So it would be in S tier. Other than that they're the same board. 

Good to know, thanks!

[mcg_mm8]

The A stands for amps, right? Or am I stupid

[Haro]

32 minutes ago, mcg_mm8 said:

The A stands for amps, right?

Yes. Yes it does. Assuming you're referring to the "A" in something like: 

Quote

70A power stages 

 

[mcg_mm8]

2 minutes ago, Haro said:

Yes. Yes it does. Assuming you're referring to the "A" in something like: 

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks!

[Ripred]

so if my board is in tier B i should be able to run a 3900x or a 5800x at full blast safely?

[jazz9]

For the same price would you take a TUF B550M-Plus or B550 Aorus Elite v2? (mATX format not needed but I don't mind it either)

 

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, lotus10101 said:

so if my board is in tier B i should be able to run a 3900x or a 5800x at full blast safely?

Yes

 

9 minutes ago, jazz9 said:

For the same price would you take a TUF B550M-Plus or B550 Aorus Elite v2? (mATX format not needed but I don't mind it either)

 

The Gigabyte board seems to offer greater expansion options, tho I didnt not check right now.

[Gregory1306]

Hello, will the Ryzen 5 5600X be able to run at stock speeds on a B550m DS3H or should i wait till the B550M Aorus Pro is available here? what else recommendations do you have for a budget of 140€ max?

[Haro]

55 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

will the Ryzen 5 5600X be able to run at stock speeds on a B550m DS3H or should i wait till the B550M Aorus Pro is available here?

These two boards perform similarly and yes they can handle the 5600x. Though for 140 Euros you can get better boards. 

55 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

what else recommendations do you have for a budget of 140€ max?

Location exactly?

[Gregory1306]

On 1/19/2021 at 7:50 PM, Haro said:

Though for 140 Euros you can get better boards. 

B550M-DS3H i can find it for 90€, B550m Aorus Pro for about 120€, is it worth?
any recommendations? id like the board to have bios flashback as i have a 5th gen ryzen..

 

On 1/19/2021 at 7:50 PM, Haro said:

Location exactly?

Greece. There is a huge shortage of hardware due to covid and prices have gone up..

 

[Haro]

19 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

any recommendations? id like the board to have bios flashback as i have a 5th gen ryzen..

Since sadly PCPP does not have Greece on it, I'll just name some boards that are around the 100-140 Euros mark: 

1.The B550 A pro. 

2.The B550M Pro vdh. 

3.The B550M Aorus pro-P, it's an updated B550M Aorus Pro but with a significantly better VRM. (Though the original can still technically handle a 5600x). 

To name some boards. These are all usually around t he 100-140ish Euros and are all better. They all have a BIOS flashback button as well. If you need an mATX board then exclude the B550 A Pro since that's ATX. 

If you're only limited to the B550M Aorus Pro and the DS3H due to shortage, then you could go with the B550m Aorus Pro since the DS3H lacks the BIOS flashback button. 

[Gregory1306]

4 hours ago, Haro said:

since the DS3H lacks the BIOS flashback button. 

it does have q flash plus but it's on the motherboard near the front panel connections, not on the io shield.

 

i dont prefer MSI because i dont trust it and a MSI H110m mobo i had on my current system with a G4560 burned itself with my psu too so yes..are they trustworthy like the B550m Mortar, the B550M Pro VDH or the Bazooka??

4 hours ago, Haro said:

If you need an mATX board 

both mATX and ATX are okay to me. i just dont want to spend over 140€ as then we touch the x570 territory at 170€ and it is too high for me.

[Haro]

26 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

are they trustworthy like the B550m Mortar, the B550M Pro VDH or the Bazooka??

 The boards are fine. 

 

26 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

both mATX and ATX are okay to me. i just dont want to spend over 140€ as then we touch the x570 territory at 170€ and it is too high for me.

Then if any of the boards that I listed above are available, they're all better than the B550m Aorus Pro and the DS3H. 

26 minutes ago, Gregory1306 said:

it does have q flash plus but it's on the motherboard near the front panel connections, not on the io shield.

Oh right, I forgot about that lol. 

[Gregory1306]

19 minutes ago, Haro said:

Then if any of the boards that I listed above are available

available now are:

B550m DS3H: 94euros

MSI B550M Pro-VDH WIFI: 114euros

MSI MAG B550M Bazooka: 132euros.

are the MSI boards okay to buy them? i dont mind the extra 20-40 euros, as long as they are reliable. i do prefer gigabyte and asus though as they are respectable companies. i currently have a B250m DS3H with my G4560 and it is nice.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Gregory1306 said:

are the MSI boards okay to buy them?

Yes, they are, there's nothing really wrong with the Pro-VDH Wifi, the brand has nothing to do with the quality of the product, and the B550M Pro-VDH Wifi is better than the B550m Aorus Pro and the DS3H. The Bazooka has the same VRM as the Pro-VDH Wifi but has a better heatsink so it does technically perform better, though that wont really matter with a 5600x. 

[Gregory1306]

15 minutes ago, Haro said:

Yes, they are, there's nothing really wrong with the Pro-VDH Wifi, the brand has nothing to do with the quality of the product, and the B550M Pro-VDH Wifi is better than the B550m Aorus Pro and the DS3H. The Bazooka has the same VRM as the Pro-VDH Wifi but has a better heatsink so it does technically perform better, though that wont really matter with a 5600x. 

okay mate thanks, about the ram, ill stick with my dual channel 2x8 2400mhz kit for about a month or so until i get some money to buy new ones, will i see a major performance hit or something like 5% fps down?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Gregory1306 said:

will i see a major performance hit or something like 5% fps down?

Compared to higher frequency RAM? Yes, as to how much, I can't give exact percentages, though higher frequency memory will benefit you. If you want, you can try manually overclocking your existing kit and seeing what timings and frequency you'll get, until you get a new kit, it is a time consuming process though. 

[Gregory1306]

Just now, Haro said:

Compared to higher frequency RAM? Yes, as to how much, I can't give exact percentages, though higher frequency memory will benefit you. If you want, you can try manually overclocking your existing kit and seeing what timings and frequency you'll get, until you get a new kit, it is a time consuming process though. 

it is a pretty basic crusial kit. i dont think ill achieve anything, i can live with this though, the cpu was my problem as with 2/4 i couldnt multitask! now with 6/12 i believe im fine for the next 5-7 years easily, since my pentium lasted me 4 full years..

[ShadowChaser]

I'm struggling to find anything about the MSI B550M-A Pro. It's not on the list but I'd assume it's similar to the B550 Pro-VDH/Pro-DASH just without the heatsinks on the VRMs. Am I correct in thinking this? Or is this actually a $50 board priced at $90 because it's B550?

[Jurrunio]

6 hours ago, ShadowChaser said:

I'm struggling to find anything about the MSI B550M-A Pro. It's not on the list but I'd assume it's similar to the B550 Pro-VDH/Pro-DASH just without the heatsinks on the VRMs. Am I correct in thinking this? Or is this actually a $50 board priced at $90 because it's B550?

In the VRM list, boards without heatsink and 4 phase of mosfets automatically get the lowest tier. $90 is definitely too much for what it has.

[brunonicocam]

Hi! I'm experiencing VRM overheating with an MSI B450 Tomahawk Max 2 and a Ryzen 5900x. I'm thinking of upgrading to the MSI B550 Gaming Edge, which according to many reviews it seems to have much better VRM. However, by checking the attached datasheet to this VRM tier list, I fail to see what the actual difference between these two boards is, that justifies the improvement in VRM.

The B550 Gaming Edge has a 5+2 setup using doublers and 1x ON Semiconductor 4C029N + 1x ON Semiconductor 4C024N Mofsets, where as the B450 Tomahawk has a 4+2 setup without doublers but 2x ON Semiconductor 4C029N + 2x ON Semiconductor 4C024N. So no doublers but twice as many Mofsets, so I guess in total the B550 has 10x ON Semiconductor 4C029N + 10x ON Semiconductor 4C024N and the B450 8x ON Semiconductor 4C029N + 8x ON Semiconductor 4C024N. Is my reasoning fine?

If so, and if the critical components in VRM as regards heating are the Mofsets, I don't really see that much of a difference between 8 vs 10 pairs.

What are your thoughts? Thanks!

 

[Haro]

22 minutes ago, brunonicocam said:

MSI B550 Gaming Edge,

I'm not sure where you got that VRM info from, but the B550 Gaming Edge WIFI has a 5 phase with 10 ISL99360 60A power stages, and does not use the 4C029N and 4C024N discrete MOSFETs found on the B450 Tomahawk.