Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

[Letgomyleghoe]

so at what voltage is this measured, you need voltage to actually say something about how much power they can draw right?

or am I missing something/ have lacking knowledge of current 

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

so at what voltage is this measured, you need voltage to actually say something about how much power they can draw right?

or am I missing something/ have lacking knowledge of current 

Zen 2 and 3 dont really let all core voltage go beyond 1.35v no matter what you do with PBO (I do recommend treating the stock PBO voltage as the max safe voltage). Zen and Zen+ are rated at 1.4V

[Letgomyleghoe]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Zen 2 and 3 dont really let all core voltage go beyond 1.35v no matter what you do with PBO (I do recommend treating the stock PBO voltage as the max safe voltage). Zen and Zen+ are rated at 1.4V

although the differences would be minor, Are the motherboards tiered at the same voltage? I could see some of the lower and chips and motherboards being ran at lower voltages.

[Jurrunio]

40 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

although the differences would be minor, Are the motherboards tiered at the same voltage? I could see some of the lower and chips and motherboards being ran at lower voltages.

Not necessarily the same voltage, but the list takes that into consideration. If a board was set to run higher voltage than another board that's identical elsewhere, it will run hotter and at some point, will be rated worse

[Letgomyleghoe]

okay makes enough sense, I was just looking, Is there any reason to pick the B550-F over the B550 Auros Pro? or is there a reason why people are recommending the B550-F over the B550 Auros Pro? 

[Jurrunio]

8 hours ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

okay makes enough sense, I was just looking, Is there any reason to pick the B550-F over the B550 Auros Pro? or is there a reason why people are recommending the B550-F over the B550 Auros Pro? 

Becuase Asus is gud

 

There is also the better BIOS I suppose, but older 2.5G Intel LAN used on Asus B550.boards have problems. New ones should be fixed.

[Letgomyleghoe]

Asus RGB software is also worlds better I'm not gonna lie.

 

good thing I only use white accent lighting.

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

Asus RGB software is also worlds better I'm not gonna lie.

not exactly a praise to either company

[NewNoYou]

At this current time I can get 

-x570 strix gaming E

-x570 Aorus Master 

-x570 Taichi 

-x570 Meg ACE

 

For the same price 

 

What would you pick for a

-5900x

-6900xt

-64gb 3600 cl 14

Everything watercooled and maximum stable over clocking? 

 

Cheers 

[BlazeWingbreaker]

Just checked the list again and saw the B550 Steel Legend and friends are in S-

 

 

aren’t they slightly worse than the B550-A/F or am I missing something here? I recall them running slightly hotter

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

Just checked the list again and saw the B550 Steel Legend and friends are in S-

 

 

aren’t they slightly worse than the B550-A/F or am I missing something here? I recall them running slightly hotter

you're right, they should be a tier down.

[BlazeWingbreaker]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

you're right, they should be a tier down.

Oh yeah, regarding B550 Tomahawk/Gaming Edge

 

Are they actually better than the 550-A/F or should they be on the same tier as well? Just did a quick check on HWU VRM test and the edge has same temp as 550-F while tomahawk strangely is 3c hotter, probably slightly worse heatsink

 

AFAIK they're all 12phase on the core right?

[Jurrunio]

54 minutes ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

Oh yeah, regarding B550 Tomahawk/Gaming Edge

 

Are they actually better than the 550-A/F or should they be on the same tier as well? Just did a quick check on HWU VRM test and the edge has same temp as 550-F while tomahawk strangely is 3c hotter, probably slightly worse heatsink

 

AFAIK they're all 12phase on the core right?

B550 Tomahawk and Edge have 10 powerstages for CPU cores I think, 12 or more on MSI B550 boards are limited to the Carbon and Unify. I'll look into their ratings tho, in fact HUB results here may be the one that ruined it all because they moved from open bench testing to well ventilated case testing. Bascially, their results has gone from too conservative to too optimistic. I didnt know that until checking their slightly older video that mentioned thos.

[BlazeWingbreaker]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

B550 Tomahawk and Edge have 10 powerstages for CPU cores I think, 12 or more on MSI B550 boards are limited to the Carbon and Unify. I'll look into their ratings tho, in fact HUB results here may be the one that ruined it all because they moved from open bench testing to well ventilated case testing. Bascially, their results has gone from too conservative to too optimistic. I didnt know that until checking their slightly older video that mentioned thos.

hmm, is it still a "valid" guideline when picking B550s?

 

[BoberMod]

 

I'm going to buy R9 5950X and looking for ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero. Should I wait for Asus Dark Hero or MSI X570 Godlike Creation?

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, BoberMod said:

 

I'm going to buy R9 5950X and looking for ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero. Should I wait for Asus Dark Hero or MSI X570 Godlike Creation?

Dark Hero is supposedly $400 but I dont know how long it will take to hit the shelves. Godlike Creation are two boards that are already available, the Godlike tho isnt really good everywhere (which it should when it's so much more expensive than the Hero). Creation.does have a ton of USB ports so there's that

[BoberMod]

36 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Dark Hero is supposedly $400 but I dont know how long it will take to hit the shelves. Godlike Creation are two boards that are already available, the Godlike tho isnt really good everywhere (which it should when it's so much more expensive than the Hero). Creation.does have a ton of USB ports so there's that

Except for the radiator instead of the cooler, I don't see any point in waiting for Dark Hero. And Godlike, Creation are much more expensive in my country (Ukraine).

So, I ordered Crosshair VIII Hero. Thanks!

[werther595]

Forgive me if this has been asked already, but does someone more knowledgeable than me know where the new Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P board would fit on the list? I understand that they improved the VRM components and design from the PRO (non-P) version, but it doesn't seem that they used the same configuration from any other existing product, so I'm not sure where the revised board would fall. Any guidance is greatly appreciated!

[Haro]

5 minutes ago, werther595 said:

so I'm not sure where the revised board would fall. Any guidance is greatly appreciated!

The board has 10 SIC639 (And those are 50A Drmos parts) for the vcore and should easily handle even the 5950x just fine, it's a decent mATX board. 

I'd also look at the B550m tuf plus and the B550m mortar, they're also decent mATX B550 boards. 

[Mateyyy]

56 minutes ago, werther595 said:

Forgive me if this has been asked already, but does someone more knowledgeable than me know where the new Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro-P board would fit on the list? I understand that they improved the VRM components and design from the PRO (non-P) version, but it doesn't seem that they used the same configuration from any other existing product, so I'm not sure where the revised board would fall. Any guidance is greatly appreciated!

It looks to have a 10-phase Vcore, as opposed to the 12-phase present on the ATX Aorus Pro/Elite, still with 50A DrMOS power stages as on the ATX boards.

The heatsinks look to be similarly meh to the ones on the ATX Aorus Elite, so... Tier B/C I guess?

[werther595]

31 minutes ago, Haro said:

B550m tuf plus and the B550m mortar

Thanks so much for your reply. I understand those two boards you mentioned to be the "cream of the crop" for mATX. You think the new PRO-P is in the same class, VRM-wise?

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, werther595 said:

I understand those two boards you mentioned to be the "cream of the crop" for mATX. You think the new PRO-P is in the same class, VRM-wise?

The mortar is still techincally better than both of these two boards VRM wise, though all of these boards should perform similarly. 

[werther595]

9 minutes ago, Haro said:

The mortar is still techincally better than both of these two boards VRM wise, though all of these boards should perform similarly. 

Understood, and greatly appreciated. Thank you very much

[Diggen]

Has anyone seen reviews for the ASUS TUF Gaming x570-Pro?

Most likely looking to buy either that or the MSI x570 Tomahawk.

The ASUS Reddit post claims the newer Pro has better VRM/Thermals than the older Plus model but I haven't actually been able to verify that in any way. 

 

Pairing it with a R7 5800x. 

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, Diggen said:

Pairing it with a R7 5800x. 

Which means you can ignore the VRM difference because both boards are overkill for a 5950X in that regard.

 

2 hours ago, Diggen said:

Most likely looking to buy either that or the MSI x570 Tomahawk.

They arent too different, TUF Pro has more SATA ports but Tomahawk has more rear I/O USBs. basically, only different in subjective things.