5700 XT - which variants are the best?

[Hustii]

Hi guys!

There are a lot of different companies producing the RX 5700 XT.

I want to build a system on a R5 3600 and looked into the best possible GPUs.

My Budget is around 1k, buying from germany.

 

Which cards are just not worth it? Which are?

 

Preferably between 380-420 (no joke) Euros.

 

Thanks ahead!

[Princess Luna]

Sapphire Pulse is by far the best value one.

[samcool55]

3 minutes ago, Hustii said:

Hi guys!

There are a lot of different companies producing the RX 5700 XT.

I want to build a system on a R5 3600 and looked into the best possible GPUs.

My Budget is around 1k, buying from germany.

 

Which cards are just not worth it? Which are?

 

Preferably between 380-420 (no joke) Euros.

 

Thanks ahead!

So, just copied this straight from a GN video and I have this list

 

Best Overall - Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC (Amazon): https://geni.us/BNWJl4
Runner-Up - Sapphire Pulse (Amazon): https://geni.us/VzFA3

Best Cooling - Sapphire RX 5700 XT Nitro+ (Amazon): https://geni.us/Wybi
Tied with - Powercolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil (Amazon): https://geni.us/nZHuxR

Most Decidedly Average - MSI RX 5700 XT Gaming X (Amazon): https://geni.us/2rUTK [not yet listed, but this search link will lead to it when it is]

Most Unique Feature - ASRock RX 5700 XT Taichi X (Amazon): https://geni.us/AOAS [not yet listed, but this search link will lead to it when it is]

Best Worst RX 5700 XT - XFX RX 5700 XT THICC Ultra II (Amazon): https://geni.us/ySLN Runner-up - MSI RX 5700 XT Evoke OC (Amazon): https://geni.us/sfhO

Best PCB - ASUS RX 5700 XT Strix (Amazon): https://geni.us/CdVu Buildzoid's ASUS 5700 XT analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioJHG...

 

Video/Source

 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Sapphire is at the top.

Powercolor and Asus come next.

Then Asrock, Gigabyte and MSI.

Then there’s a massive gap.

Way down at the bottom is XFX and reference blowers.

Everything you wrote here is so inaccurate I don't even understand why you bother writing it down.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Everything you wrote here is so inaccurate I don't even understand why you bother writing it down.

I agree with the position of XFX tho, their THICC card is THICC trash.

[Epimetheus]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Everything you wrote here is so inaccurate I don't even understand why you bother writing it down.

Furthermore, isn't the Asus Tuf model one of the absolute worst models?

[Epimetheus]

Just now, samcool55 said:

I agree with the position of XFX tho, their cards are trash.

i think they already solved the thermal problems of the thicc 2 by modifying the cooler

[Meganter]

6 minutes ago, Hustii said:

Hi guys!

There are a lot of different companies producing the RX 5700 XT.

I want to build a system on a R5 3600 and looked into the best possible GPUs.

My Budget is around 1k, buying from germany.

 

Which cards are just not worth it? Which are?

 

Preferably between 380-420 (no joke) Euros.

 

Thanks ahead!

Hello !

 

I would personally go for the Sapphire Nitro+ (I own a Vega 64 so I'm biased ), then Red Devil (but it's expensive over here), then Pulse/Gigabyte, I really like the look of the Asrock but the price is also silly, MSI Gaming X is one of the best too but expensive for a 2 fans GPU.

 

But for 380-420€ https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3YTzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-pulse-video-card-11293-01-20g is the best you can get.

[Jurrunio]

Powercolor Red Dragon, Sapphire Pulse and Gigabyte Gaming OC are the only good cheap 5700XT cards. The THICC and Asrock Challenger D is alright if you can find them for even cheaper (by at least 10%), MSI Evoke/Mech are bearable if you're deaf/wear headphones and find them at least 10% cheaper than the good cheap cards.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, Epimetheus said:

i think they already solved the thermal problems of the thicc 2 by modifying the cooler

Even if they did, the reputation of that card is still ruined tho.

You don't know if you get a fixed one or a broken one and the bad reviews about it will forever be out there.

They should have re-launched it with a different name if they did indeed fix the thermal problem to make it clear which one is the bad one and which one is the good one.

Also this gives at least a bit of a reason for reviewers to look at the card because it will be at least marketed as a new one. (even if it's just a revised version)

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

It simplifies things drastically and makes it easier for people to chose.

to the point of being wrong? then it's time to scrap it. Asus TUF running its GDDR6 above temperature spec? Gigabyte Gaming OC performing decent for its price, but Asrock's only good card is the Taichi X and MSI the Gaming X (which totally breaks OP's low budget requirement)? XFX is bad but comparing to at least the Asus TUF, nowhere near as bad.

[Princess Luna]

17 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

Furthermore, isn't the Asus Tuf model one of the absolute worst models?

Yes the ASUS TUF Gaming is a flawed product that can't even meet Micron's GDDR6 max temperature spec of 95Cº (card runs it at 106Cº peak) and it is worse than the Reference in every aspect.

 

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

It simplifies things drastically and makes it easier for people to chose.

No, what you done was write a random listing with no foundation what so ever which ultimately is misinformation making it harder for people to chose right.

 

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

If you want the best you just get sapphire.

This is inaccurate, you're claiming things without providing source to such claims when cards like the MSi Gaming X has proven to surpass the Nitro+ on multiple valid benchmarking regarding GPU, VRM, GDDR6 temperatures and operating volume.

 

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

If they don’t want sapphire they’ll pick something average from

the other two lines.

Your second line has ASUS which has been a gigantic failure and disappointment with the 5700XT with the ROG Strix being mediocre and the TUF Gaming being the *worst* 5700XT there is due to design flaws.

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

And XFX is listed as notably bad and at the bottom to be avoided.

XFX has absolutely nothing wrong with it, their THICC2 was underwhelming for what it promised but the card still performs better on GPU, VRM, GDDR6 temperatures and operation noise than a lot of other alternatives like the AsRock Taichi, MSi Evoke, ASUS ROG Strix and others.

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

They can’t make a bad decision, and it fits into the simplest reply possible

Your reply being "simple" does not mean it is accurate, we have been able to validate that almost everything you wrote is wrong and misinformed meaning that you actually made it easy for OP to make a bad decision would he base himself of what you wrote.

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

I plan out what i type, there is meaning behind it.

Unfortunately for OP's sake you have not planned out this right at all and there's absolutely no meaning behind what you wrote other than it being a random list of what you thought was good.

16 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

I’m well aware that there are better and worse cards from each AIB.

Then next time go through these changes and take the time to explain what makes a card better or worse than the other with proper source and citation, it is a lot better than spread misinformation on a well regarded forum with the excuse of wanting to keep it "simple" for "easier understanding".

[Meganter]

In résumé :

 

23 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

So, just copied this straight from a GN video and I have this list

 

Best Overall - Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC (Amazon): https://geni.us/BNWJl4
Runner-Up - Sapphire Pulse (Amazon): https://geni.us/VzFA3

Best Cooling - Sapphire RX 5700 XT Nitro+ (Amazon): https://geni.us/Wybi
Tied with - Powercolor RX 5700 XT Red Devil (Amazon): https://geni.us/nZHuxR

Most Decidedly Average - MSI RX 5700 XT Gaming X (Amazon): https://geni.us/2rUTK [not yet listed, but this search link will lead to it when it is]

Most Unique Feature - ASRock RX 5700 XT Taichi X (Amazon): https://geni.us/AOAS [not yet listed, but this search link will lead to it when it is]

Best Worst RX 5700 XT - XFX RX 5700 XT THICC Ultra II (Amazon): https://geni.us/ySLN Runner-up - MSI RX 5700 XT Evoke OC (Amazon): https://geni.us/sfhO

Best PCB - ASUS RX 5700 XT Strix (Amazon): https://geni.us/CdVu Buildzoid's ASUS 5700 XT analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioJHG...

 

Video/Source

 

 

18 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

Hello !

 

I would personally go for the Sapphire Nitro+ (I own a Vega 64 so I'm biased ), then Red Devil (but it's expensive over here), then Pulse/Gigabyte, I really like the look of the Asrock but the price is also silly, MSI Gaming X is one of the best too but expensive for a 2 fans GPU.

 

But for 380-420€ https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/3YTzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-pulse-video-card-11293-01-20g is the best you can get.

 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Caroline said:

I ended up ordering the MSI card even though I was told "Sapphire is the best". That ok? I don't really care too much about synth benchmarks I expect it to run decently at games without having to overclock

 

Depends on what card of MSI. At worst you just get a loud card that runs hotter than the best of competitors, still better than the reference card.

[Meganter]

9 minutes ago, Caroline said:

The Gaming X card, there was also the Evoke for $30 less but I've read the cooler on that one is bad

The Gaming X is good

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Caroline said:

The Gaming X card, there was also the Evoke for $30 less but I've read the cooler on that one is bad

Gaming X is the only good card from MSI for Navi so far

[Epimetheus]

32 minutes ago, Caroline said:

The Gaming X card, there was also the Evoke for $30 less but I've read the cooler on that one is bad

it's a bit expensive but a really good 5700xt nonetheless

[Djinnux]

I am really torn between the Nitro and Red Devil, but I think the fact that the nitro has an RGB input on it that I can use to sync it with the rest of my system is the decision maker.  I am probably ordering the Nitro in the next couple weeks.  Though I really do like the Red Devil as well noticing this one feature was about the only real thing I could see that was any kind of advantage and a nitpicky one at that over the other one.  I also kinda like the more simple classic look of the Sapphire card, but I do also have the bias of hearing repeatedly that if you are going to buy an AMD graphics card that Sapphire is top tier.  Not that Powercolor isn't but yeah that's kinda where my thoughts have been

[SliceT]

12 hours ago, Djinnux said:

I am really torn between the Nitro and Red Devil, but I think the fact that the nitro has an RGB input on it that I can use to sync it with the rest of my system is the decision maker.  I am probably ordering the Nitro in the next couple weeks.  Though I really do like the Red Devil as well noticing this one feature was about the only real thing I could see that was any kind of advantage and a nitpicky one at that over the other one.  I also kinda like the more simple classic look of the Sapphire card, but I do also have the bias of hearing repeatedly that if you are going to buy an AMD graphics card that Sapphire is top tier.  Not that Powercolor isn't but yeah that's kinda where my thoughts have been

Well, Sapphire and PowerColor are top tier AMD partners, I don't think you would do wrong going either way.

But I can tell by own experience, having a Red Devil Vega and liking it soo much I decided to give a go with the Red Devil on the 5700XT, I would VERY surprised as I already had high expectations, the card feels solid, good build, it is whisper quiet and with realy good temps so far the best card I ever owned.

 

Personally I love the RGB on the card, the Devil logo looks awesome where Sapphire implementation is a bit more shy.. Also the shroud of Sapphire cooler is plastic..
Again, either one it's a great card.

 

[P5yco]

On 11/6/2019 at 5:00 PM, Princess Luna said:

Yes the ASUS TUF Gaming is a flawed product that can't even meet Micron's GDDR6 max temperature spec of 95Cº (card runs it at 106Cº peak) and it is worse than the Reference in every aspect.

 

I have the ASUS TUF and the memory runs at no more than 75 degrees after prolonged use...

[BTGbullseye]

4 hours ago, P5yco said:

I have the ASUS TUF and the memory runs at no more than 75 degrees after prolonged use...

Of what, word processing?

[Hustii]

On 11/6/2019 at 5:48 PM, Jurrunio said:

Powercolor Red Dragon, Sapphire Pulse and Gigabyte Gaming OC are the only good cheap 5700XT cards. The THICC and Asrock Challenger D is alright if you can find them for even cheaper (by at least 10%), MSI Evoke/Mech are bearable if you're deaf/wear headphones and find them at least 10% cheaper than the good cheap cards.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Powercolor-RX-5700XT-Red-Dragon-DDR6--Retail-_1327917.html

This one is a good option then?

[hsdjfh]

This is coming from the gamers nexus and hardware unboxed videos.

 

The gigabyte gaming OC, sapphire pulse and powercolor red dragon are all good, just get the cheapest.

 

Avoid the xfx thicc 2, msi evoke and mech, and the reference cards.

[Meganter]

1 hour ago, Hustii said:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Powercolor-RX-5700XT-Red-Dragon-DDR6--Retail-_1327917.html

This one is a good option then?

The Sapphire Pulse is in your price range too as said above  

[Hustii]

14 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

The Sapphire Pulse is in your price range too as said above  

but the more I can save, the better?