AMD officially announces RX 5500 series, obliterates GTX 1650

[MeatFeastMan]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-5500

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VideoCardz is reporting that AMD is to announce the RX 5500 series as expected today, October 7th (I wonder why..).

https://videocardz.com/82162/amd-announces-radeon-rx-5500-series-with-gddr6-memory

 

 

They are apparently announcing 3 SKU's:

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The RX 5500 series will feature three SKUs: the RX 5500M, RX 5500 and RX 5500 XT

The RX 5500M has 4gb (Not confirmed whether GDDR5 or GDDR6 though), while the 5500 non-XT has 4gb GDDR6, and the 5500XT has 8gb GDDR6. There were rumors of a 3gb card, but it looks like those were untrue if this is anything to go by.

 

They also suggest that this card competes against the lower-end Polaris and Turing cards:

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Throughout the presentation, AMD compares its new graphics card to Radeon RX 480 and GeForce GTX 1650. The RX 5500 is meant to be better than both.

I find this very very interesting. Is this a hint at the pricing? They couldn't, could they? If they price this alongside the 1650, WOW. I don't think any of us would have expected that.

 

VideoCardz has also leaked the performance slides AMD is going to show (no resolution, but I assume it's 1080p in some form):

 

 

That is some serious butt-whooping going on there. This is far ahead of the RX 570, which is about on par with the 480. It may well be that AMD can deliver what people wanted, a true RX 570 replacement. I'd imagine these numbers would put it around the 1660 performance. That is nearly 20% faster overall than the RX 480 there, while apparently being 1.6X the performance per watt, and well..I'm not even going to bother calculating the difference over the 1650 cause that is a huge gap.

 

And by the way, the 5500 isn't the only one beating the 1650. The 5500M (Assuming that means a mobile part) is beating the full 1650 as well, despite being pitted against the 1650 mobile part. Now it remains to be seen: How are Nvidia going to respond to this? AMD have responded to a 1650 Super, they've countered that without it even being launched yet.

 

If they price the 5500 at $150, then..the RX 570 successor has finally arrived. There's a new king in town. Budget buyers finally have something worth buying.

 

EDIT: ITS OFFICIAL.

Navi will also appear in laptops too! The 5500M will appear in a number of laptops, including MSI's Alpha 15 for $999:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-alpha-15-price-specs-amd-5500m,40558.html

 

No official pricing details yet or release date however for the desktop parts. Also..there are no reference designs. All custom.

 

You also get a free game with these cards. Either Ghost Recon Breakpoint or Borderlands 3! And Wccftech are reporting (grains of salt, not official) that the 5500 will launch at $130 and 5500XT at $150. Power consumption has also been revealed by AMD at 110w TBP for the 5500.

[leadeater]

VideoCardz, leakiest of leaky taps recently.

[MeatFeastMan]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

VideoCardz, leakiest of leaky taps recently.

Indeed. They are coming out with all the juicy info at the moment. Wccftech better be listening, these are real 'sources'!

[Bananasplit_00]

if this card is $150 i might just buy one if there are any thin PCB versions

[GOTSpectrum]

I just want OpenCL to work on Navi! Urgh 

[Enover5]

It's been rumored for quite a while now, so you probably should have waited for the real official announcement before making an article... Unless it is just a placeholder for the announcement of the cards, of course

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I just want OpenCL to work on Navi! Urgh 

If it did and folding/boinc was great on them I'd consider these over buying used ebay.

[MeatFeastMan]

2 minutes ago, Enover5 said:

It's been rumored for quite a while now, so you probably should have waited for the real official announcement before making an article... Unless it is just a placeholder for the announcement of the cards, of course

Well it's a pretty strong rumor, and usually VideoCardz get it spot on. And given they have specs, and even leaked slides, it's pretty likely they're announcing it today.

 

I can add on stuff if needed anyways I guess. There are some bits of info missing such as price which I'm sure Lisa Su or whoever will give us today.

[GOTSpectrum]

12 minutes ago, leadeater said:

If it did and folding/boinc was great on them I'd consider these over buying used ebay.

Same here

[GoldenLag]

Hopefully these cards are 160~$. As they should be after this many years of polaris cards. 

[Jurrunio]

56 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

if this card is $150 i might just buy one if there are any thin PCB versions

thin PCB? or thin cooler?

 

1 hour ago, MeatFeastMan said:

1650

what they need to beat tho is the 1660, no one gives a crap to the 1650 on desktop.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

thin PCB? or thin cooler?

thin PCB, half height preferable but 75% or less is what i want. Want one as an upgrade for the Toaster and that cant take anything thats both dual slot and full height. 

[MeatFeastMan]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

thin PCB? or thin cooler?

 

what they need to beat tho is the 1660, no one gives a crap to the 1650 on desktop.

I've just looked at the Battlefield V ultra numbers they showed on a slide in that article, and compared it to Hardware Unboxed's numbers of the 1660. The 5500M (Yes, the mobile part) is ahead by 3fps (79 vs 76). This could potentially be a 1660 level card for 1650 prices. And that's the 4gb 5500M, not the 5500 or 5500XT. Granted Battlefield V favours AMD a tad, but this card won't be far off the 1660 overall, maybe a few percent behind.

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

thin PCB, half height preferable but 75% or less is what i want. Want one as an upgrade for the Toaster and that cant take anything thats both dual slot and full height. 

you mean short? It's not like they'll give you PCBs thicker than necessary on a low end card, heck not even 5700XTs get that.

 

14 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

And that's the 4gb 5500M, not the 5500 or 5500XT.

Nvidia also has the 1660ti and even the 1660 Super coming in at this $250-ish price range, will be interesting to see who can get better prices

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

you mean short? It's not like they'll give you PCBs thicker than necessary on a low end card, heck not even 5700XTs get that.

i mean half height like this:

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How many layers the PCB has dosnt matter unless its like 30 000  

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

i mean half height like this:

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How many layers the PCB has dosnt matter unless its like 30 000  

that's the problem with english, opposite for "long" and "tall" is "short" in both cases.

[Princess Luna]

This is great! But still isn't big navi

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

But still isn't big navi

could be problem with memory controller... 5700XT is already memory bottlenecked so pointless to put bigger GPUs with 256bit bus, but then a 512bit controller could easily do 30w if not more so they're holding back on this

[MeatFeastMan]

39 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you mean short? It's not like they'll give you PCBs thicker than necessary on a low end card, heck not even 5700XTs get that.

 

Nvidia also has the 1660ti and even the 1660 Super coming in at this $250-ish price range, will be interesting to see who can get better prices

Just to update on pricing. Take with a grain of salt but Wccftech are saying the 5500 will be $130 and the 5500XT will be $150!! If that's true then the 1650ti/Super will surely be dead on arrival.

 

Also seems to suggest then that they'll launch a 5600 to challenge the 1660 Super and Ti. Only guesses but would make sense.

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Just to update on pricing. Take with a grain of salt but Wccftech are saying the 5500 will be $130 and the 5500XT will be $150!! If that's true then the 1650ti/Super will surely be dead on arrival.

 

Also seems to suggest then that they'll launch a 5600 to challenge the 1660 Super and Ti. Only guesses but would make sense.

and for once the blower models wont be bad if there are any

[Doobeedoo]

Goood filling the range all to be Navi now to see the big one. I wonder how they'll implement memory in it. 

[Crave]

If the memory is going to be GDDR6 and max temperatures are going to be around 60-65C, it's going to be a good 480-580 (maybe 590) replacement.

[MeatFeastMan]

And what do you know, AMD has delivered! It's official.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/07/amd-expects-the-radeon-rx-5500-to-dominate-nvidia-gtx-1650-with-37-percent-higher-fps/#6334f191379d

 

Up to 37% faster than the 1650. AMD showing how it's done.

[AlTech]

Cries in GTX 1650 laptop.

[MeatFeastMan]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Cries in GTX 1650 laptop.

Ouch. Must be painful after seeing those numbers on the 5500M. 52% faster in one of the games! That is nothing short of astonishing performance. I don't think any of us were expecting quite this much. Caught me by surprise seeing those numbers. Literally makes a mockery of the 1650. Standing in solidarity at this painful time